Just like Iceland, let’s do our own thing

By Stuart Thomas / Expert

If you saw the coming home celebrations of the Icelandic Football team you were probably smiling from ear to ear just as I was.

The scene had a little bit of everything. A strong sense of belonging and connectedness, with a hint of Viking spirit, and just a little bit of Eurovision thrown in for good measure.

If there ever was a team deserving of such a wonderful tribute it was this one, over achievers to the ultimate degree. The fact that they managed to take the scalp of England along the way added a little extra to the celebration.

Without a major victim it would still have been a wonderful achievement but with the Poms on the end of another loss, Iceland’s celebration had even more punch. I think the rest of the world might have enjoyed it as well. Woe is England!

The celebrations included the most incredible display of drumming and clapping in perfect unison. The average punter, both young and old, the players and officials all combined through common action, sound and emotion. It was moving, heart-warming and stirring to watch.

My thoughts immediately leapt to Australian expressions of passion in the crowd. We are culturally quite different and often less organised and structured in the way we parochially express ourselves towards our team of choice.

Media voices have called for some increased coordination and structure around Australian sporting cheerleading. Emulation of overseas passion in our major sports is commonplace. I think we should look internally rather than externally, but before comment, let’s look at a few things we do well and a few things that we don’t.

From a football perspective, our supporter groups have created some choreographed chants and songs that do add colour to A-League matches. Throughout the first decade of our immensely entertaining competition we have grappled with our own identity.

I personally love an Adelaide or Brisbane crowd, it always feels very local, other xlubs (such as mine) present a more aggressive and intimidating atmosphere that often feels slightly forced and copycat.

As the Wellington Phoenix supporters expose their milky white flesh when leading going in to the last ten minutes I feel a wonderful sense of comfort knowing that there is no imitation occurring. They have found their voice in a somewhat disturbing and semi-nude manner, yet their voice it is.

We are certainly no match for the comedy and cleverness associated with English supporters. A quick Google search will provide evidence of that and keep a football fan entertained for a couple of hours, yet we have a couple of nice moments.

There are some good examples of the Australian voice at the core of our barracking. The iconic Yabba and the simplicity and blunt nature of his jibes captured our voice perfectly. The man immortalised at the SCG in statue form provided the benchmark for all Australian larrikinism.

Lines like ‘I wish you were a statue and I were a pigeon,’ possess a wit and irreverence that is hard to emulate and convey an appropriate level of respect for the English.

Perhaps the most famous football cry in this country has been the ‘CO-LLING-WOOD’ chant that reverberates around the city of Melbourne when the Magpies show some grit. Sure, not the most creative chant yet its emotive power is evident.

If, and it’s a big if, fans can step back from parochialism they would see the more aesthetic beauty and solidarity behind the chant. Who am I kidding, it’s Collingwood!

Imitating the stretching of Mervyn Hughes prior to a spell was a stroke of genius by the M.C.G ground and will live in folklore in this country. Seeing Merv recently makes me think he should have kept up the stretching regime in retirement.

Unfortunately, despite these highlights we also have some fan-bases that are letting us down.
Quite frankly the average AFL supporter chants are pathetic. Shouting out the name of a team and clapping three times afterwards is weak and not the stuff of poets.

The rather painful team songs can also be cringe worthy, especially from the newer sides that lack the longevity to make corny melodies sound proud and motivational.

Rugby league crowd involvement is more of a myriad of abuse and vitriol stemming from angry and violent people who feel that decisions rather than poor play are costing their team a chance of success.

I long for witticism such as the cry from a plump, chesty bond singlet wearing man at Belmore Sports Ground back in the late 80s. Glen Nissen had run away to score a quality try when the gentlemen sang out in perfect pitch, ‘It’s a Nissan, that’s my car.’

Rugby union crowds seem to sit in silence while kickers line up endless conversions or penalty attempts at goal. The crowd claps, points at scarves or at the chest area on their jerseys after the successful kick. This is all rather uncreative and disappointing in itself, yet it is still quite often more interesting than what occurs between the kicks.

Netball has a mighty lot to answer for. With two daughters and as coach of one of their teams, I have seen more than my fair share.

My only explanation is this. Due to the absurd amount of time that umpires spend blowing whistles, the only way the patrons can actually be heard is to purchase inflatable sticks and bang them together furiously, while screaming in the most high pitched voice known to man.

Coming home from a Swifts encounter leaves one with serious concerns that they are suffering from the early signs of tinnitus.

The mind numbing rhetoric of ‘the fanatics’ borders on being an international embarrassment. Don’t get me wrong, their passion for Australian tennis is admirable but incredibly bright clothes with nautically themed headwear seems a little out of place at the tennis in my opinion. Their ‘Aussie, Aussie, Aussies’ have become decidedly weaker in recent times.

At Melbourne Park this year a gentlemen not fifteen metres from me simply called out, ‘oh shut up,’ after the seventy third rendition of ‘there’s only one Lleyton Hewitt.’

It’s high time we acknowledged that we are no match for a humming Asian throng in an Asian Cup qualifier where the constant buzz becomes a wall of intimidating sound. Nor can we compete with the San Siro amidst the theatre and atmosphere of the Milan derby.

We can’t match a Green Bay Packers crowd in the depths of winter, with the cheese heads drinking beer and standing topless in sleet and snow. And that’s the point, we shouldn’t try to match them.

There is a touch of imitation about much of our supporting. Let’s cut the American ‘Let’s go Stosur, let’s go.’ Get rid of sensible men in smart looking shorts at Australian golf tournaments shouting out, ‘get in the hole’.

We might be better to embrace our own voice when it comes to fan engagement, just like Iceland. Rather than attempt to emulate the sound created in stadiums, leagues and sports around the world, let’s be ourselves and let our unique climate and tone speak for itself.

Supporters groups, stadium management and TV networks seem to want a more organised approach. Let’s not. If games are played with an undecipherable hum, without inflatable banging and cleverly constructed chants then so be it.

We all love sporting contests from the other continents. Let them do it their way and we can do it our way. Attempting to cleverly reconstruct the Icelandic celebration could be quite comical, especially after our renowned alcohol consumption level has been adhered to, as would an Australian rugby crowd attempting to match the Welsh in a voice ‘battle’.

Let’s just keep doing our thing. It’s been a lot of fun up until now.

The Crowd Says:

2016-07-25T09:13:53+00:00

pacman

Guest


Saw something similar at The Gabba many years ago. Probably a 2000 Sydney Olympics Brisbane Group Match, and it certainly involved Brazil, whose fans were congregated in a section of the stand above some corporate boxes. These fans were jumping up and down in unison, causing the concrete base of that section of the stand to visibly flex downwards and upwards. Caused some police and media consternation, but according to engineers all was well, although they had not anticipated the cracks occurring in the corporate box windows!

2016-07-24T08:53:51+00:00

AZ_RBB

Guest


That's German engineering at it's very best :P

2016-07-24T08:33:42+00:00

pete4

Guest


Try beating this one from Eintracht Frankfurt supporters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z5mbCWThZ8

2016-07-22T05:35:44+00:00

Daniel (Sky Blue) King

Guest


Yeah same, my days of standing in The Cove are behind me, getting a bit. Away days remind me of my younger years.

2016-07-22T05:34:38+00:00

Daniel (Sky Blue) King

Guest


For sure man, look forward to it.

2016-07-21T08:34:52+00:00

AZ_RBB

Guest


I love away days. With 4 nsw teams it's so easy to end up at 5 or 6 away matches a season and be confident that you'll have a couple thousand compatriots alongside you each time. I sit in the stands at home and stand with the RBB on the road. From what I've observed that combination is a very common one. Which means you get a good diversity of fans at these away games creating a different feel.

AUTHOR

2016-07-21T07:59:00+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Love English teams like Derby, the real heart one soul of the football landscape, battling away seeking promotion and avoiding relagation. I am a west ham fan so I feel some of the pain that you guys have also encountered. We are going through a very interesting stage now where we are threatening to leap into the 'big boy' league. Whilst it would be great to see I hope we don't ever forget the last twenty or thirty years because they make or break a club. Sydney derby is unbelievable, I am an ANZ member so I will have a couple of tickets for the three games this season. I think they are playing all three there, I'm not sure. If you see one of my articles, jump on and comment and maybe you can come out join me for a few sherbets.

2016-07-21T07:48:45+00:00

Daniel (Sky Blue) King

Guest


Stuart Well, i'm a Derby County supporter and i went back to England the other year and scored tickets for Forest away (bitter rivals), we won one nil. That was awesome. But to be honest i do love the Sydney derby at the SFS with the stadium split virtually 50/50, that's almost as good as it gets, as good as anything i've experienced in England.

2016-07-21T07:45:59+00:00

Daniel (Sky Blue) King

Guest


RBB Yeah, away days are much more fun imho (personal choice). There is more individualism i think.

2016-07-21T04:58:27+00:00

marron

Guest


That's a good point too AZ, away trips (and pre-game stuff too) is often a bit different.

2016-07-21T04:55:21+00:00

marron

Guest


There is, of course, nothing to stop anyone doing this in another section in the ground; and, within the RBB there is still chant selection and occasional off-the-cuff cheekiness (ask Janjetovic what he thinks of the RBB...) The trouble is also partly that in Australia we don't have a repertoire of tunes that people know, and perhaps more importantly, we don't have a tradition of singing. For whatever reason, neither thing really exists the way it does in England, but also the way it does in South America. So that romantic idea of the incident on the pitch causing some cheery cloth-capped scouser or cockney to instantly sum it up off the cup in verse to the tune of a popular song which everybody then sings in unison, if that's even a real thing, it's not going to happen here. I know it's a personal taste thing, and I probably once would have agreed with you as well, but give me the party vibe that the RBB create any day, especially when combined with the rest of the stadium getting involved in their own way (and they do that far more in western Sydney than anywhere else in the country.) I'll take it over a heckle (which still happens.... ask Archie Thompson or Berisha or Aloisi.... ) or a 2 minute "sacked in the morning" chant.

2016-07-21T04:40:07+00:00

AZ_RBB

Guest


Yeah it has its pros and cons. Most on the terrace favour the set chants style. I think it works much better. But I went to Mvfc away where there was no organised support at the away end and 400-500 of us there decided to go all English and make up chants as we went. It was good fun. But I wouldn't want to do that when it's 2-3000 on the terrace.

AUTHOR

2016-07-21T03:29:41+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


That's interesting Daniel. I wasn't sure they would put that info out there in case others copied or imitated. Having the guts to start your own chorus can be tough. Strength in numbers usually wins out, however, if you're clever enough it can be done. You sound like you might have a bit of crowd experience, what's your favourite all time? Thanks for reading and commenting by the way, I really appreciate the dialogue.

2016-07-21T01:30:27+00:00

Boban Fett

Guest


The only other team I know of with a brass band is Seattle Sounders.

2016-07-21T01:26:58+00:00

marron

Roar Guru


Even started by an english guy that one. They are fairly unique though. I mean, i can't stand them myself, but they offer a bit of character. But my question was more about, what would it look like, not necessarily what is there.

2016-07-21T01:25:26+00:00

marron

Roar Guru


I was just saying, i enjoyed the article and didn't mean to sound too grumpy, i'm just really interested in all this sort of stuff. As I said, to me the RBB is reflective of the identity of the community it represents, and in fact all of the more organised groups do that for their own communities too. If we want to get down to it - looking for something that would reflect our overall identity more (bearing in mind this is pretty problematic as it is anyway) - the problem is that as a whole, Australian culture is pretty laid back, "she'll be right mate", has a problem with tall poppies, dislikes the idea of being told what to do (even if there's actually plenty of compliance in practice). All of this, and more, combines to mean that we're unlikely to develop something other than what we've got in general... like, what an australian crowd is like these days, actually is refective of our identity. Anyway, rambling now, thanks again for the read!

AUTHOR

2016-07-21T00:56:35+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Big Al, nice idea. Thanks for grasping the tone so well. It's a fun thing to attend a sporting event, some of the stuff I've seen still makes me laugh when I think of them. Great country and great supporters.

AUTHOR

2016-07-21T00:52:54+00:00

Stuart Thomas

Expert


Thanks for reading Pauly. Your response made me smile, excellent stuff. Hopefully everyone sees the ideas in there with the sense of fun intended. Have copped it from a few netball mums via text though.

2016-07-21T00:38:46+00:00

BigAl

Guest


Maybe smeone should set up a "college" to provide this sort training. The government would provide generous tuition subsidies, and enrollments could be encouraged by offering free team gear and lap tops and stuff...

2016-07-21T00:29:23+00:00

Daniel (Sky Blue) King

Guest


RBB I'm English and have loved the HAL from its inception but you're right about the humour and "cheekyness" that is missing or the difference here. I guess this is lead by the Capo culture, we're told to sing what he sings. I curiously looked online for RBB chants once and found their chant sheet, it said (something like) fans aren't allowed to deviate from that, I guess it's the same at other clubs; but that's why it's rare to get a cheeky chant that reflects what's happening in or around the match. I'll never get used to being looked at strangely if I try to start a chant.

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