What can the Hawks get from a Brad Hill trade?

i don't kown what to say but I think he going to freo

I just want to add, Wilson, that all your options are interesting and a possible win, win for all involved. Good read. I think Brad will remain at Hawthorn for at least one more year.

Good rundown Balt. Agree that Langdon would be someone who has shown a bit, has been rumoured to be interested in seeking a trade and probably has a very similar player in Hughes at Freo. I don't know if it is likely a gentleman's agreement has been struck as yet, as I'd say it will take a multi-club deal to be done, whereby Freo will generate some second round draft picks if it can. Unless Freo gets something from free agency compensation.

Unfortunately for the hawks freo doesn't have alot of currency in the right area to give coupled with the fact that he is not in a position of need for the dockers. I believe (like many others) that he is worth a pick at around 15-20 so the possibility of getting pick 21 as a free agency compensation for mayne or clarke or whatever they can get for Barlow as the only things that are in the ballpark. Hawks fans need to realise that freo are not going to give away pick three unless it nets them a KPP of some description in return. And unfortunately with GWS looking to trade 2x first round picks that will be better than the swans and hawks first round picks and the fact that there may be a mccarthy, lobb and 1st round pick for pick three trade in the mix i think it is wishful thinking that freos pick 3 will be used in a trade for hill.

Yeah, I know - we all dream. I dream of Hogan... And articles like this are for discussion. It's just a problematic trade, that's all. By all the commentary, and including listening to Hill himself, it sounds like a deal may already be done. The two Steves would be run out of the city of Fremantle if it involved a first pick, however. I doubt Freo is interested in Sicily either, for what it's worth. Too short. But I am fairly certain they would not be keen on Schoenmakers. He's the same height as McCarthy and, as long as Cam's mental health improves (a big "if" if the rumours are true) then Cam is the far superior option.

It's crazy to think that the Swans will give Tom Mitchell for a first round pick upgrade. Maybe in previous years there would be a slight chance, but not this year where there is a fair spread of talent in the top end.

For starters, Freo has had a 6 month long list review recently and the CEO has, after announcing the review report had been received, stated publicly that pick1 will not be traded. That takes out options 1, 2, 4 and 5. They want Sam Petrevski Seton, who has some similarities and projects as a far better player than Hill anyway. Option 3 doesn't appeal either. A rebuilding side does not get rid of 2 young players. It might get rid of one for Hill and Langdon looks the most likely if he wants to leave. Sheridan and Crozier might be options too but I expect they'd be reluctant to trade Crozier now that he seems to have finally found his niche. Point 3, Hill won't go to WCE as his whole rationale is to play with his brother. They won't be interested either, after the Jetta debacle. WCE would be much more likely to chase Cam McCarthy. Ross Lyon has said Hill's list manager contacted the club, not the other way around. I expect Hawthorn is OK with this, may even have encouraged it, because they need to find some list space and cash to regenerate now that their old players are playing on. There won't be a multiple player swap either as there are no young players from Hawthorn of interest to Freo, maybe Sicily but there haven't been any rumours there. Anyway, Cam McCarthy will be the tall forward they trade for. Freo has multiple list needs and an outside winger isn't one of them. I think they'll offer a second rounder this year or next, or a player and exchange of late picks. It's all they've really got to give. And Hawthorn would be aware that Hill's form slump and off-field issues may continue next year, as he looks like a player who wants to leave. Or they can keep him for a year, despite the risk, and know they will get a poor trade next year a la McCarthy Swings and roundabouts. All teams suck a lemon occasionally if players desperately want to leave, particularly where they only want to get to one club.

No way should the Dockers do any of these trades. They should offer 2nd round pick at most and if Hawks refuse then we will wait 1 more year when he is restricted free agent. Dockers will then have the advantage in discussions.

What you also need to take into consideration is that Brad Hill sought out Freo, not the other way around. Freo is happy to make a deal sure, but Bond isn't the most forthcoming of dealmakers either. Brad has also indicated he's happy to play another year at Hawthorn and get to the end of the contract. He wants to play with his brother, so it makes it less likely other parties will feel it's worth their while to make a pitch and the Eagles have just got Jetta in at the expense of their ruck stocks. So it's not all happy trails for the Hawks on this deal. This year is the time they will get the premium price for Hill, with his value likely to slip substantially if they can't broker anything this year and wait out until next year. Freo will have more a focus this trading on bolstering their KPPs this off-season and sit quite well in terms of their midfield stocks (regardless of what the from-a-distance evaluation from other supporters might be).

The crucial part that you fail to mention is that Hill is contracted till the end of 2017 meaning if he wants to go to Freo they have to play ball. It is not as though he can make a demand and Freo know if Hawthorn doesnt bend to their view of things that Hill can go into the preseason draft where they will get him for free. So, what is he worth? i think he is worth a a late first round draft pick.Hill is a rare commodity, an elite outside runner that also has good goal sense. His downside is his perceived 'baggage' which might bring his price down. keep in mind that if he burns it up for the rest of the season/finals, his price will rise big time What will we get? I am sure I will upset the Freo posse on here but there is nothing on their list that appeals. Your suggestion of swaps for players like Crozier/Sheridan is absurd. Both are 'nice' players but hardly difference makers. If they were offered up individually they would attract offers of a late second round picks I have little respect for Freo and the recruiting decisions they make but their top 5 pick would be off limits unless it involved getting a Hogan/McCarthy. There is no way they would entertain using it to get Hill for he would represent cream on their cake, rather than the cake that that pick could represent. i just cannot see Freo either entertaining or satisfying Hawthorn's demands. With Freo wanting to get Hill for 'nothing' and us wanting the 'world' for him As you suggest, it might see the club go up to Hill and say 'ok, you want to go home, time to practice your West Coast Eagles theme song for we are trading with them' if the Eagles offered their first pick, around 12-15 for Hill- ( unlikely )-bbye birdie Stay tuned!