Five talking points from GWS Giants vs Western Bulldogs AFL preliminary final

By Josh / Expert

It was one of the greatest matches that football fans have ever seen, ending in a thrilling victory to the Western Bulldogs by just a single goal. Check out all our talking points from yesterday’s preliminary final.

The fairytale is alive
I don’t think there’s any doubt left in my mind that if the Bulldogs manage to pull off a premiership next week, it will be the greatest story to every crop up in our game, and that’s obviously up against some incredibly strong opposition.

Living in the time of Leicester City and Believeland, though, a Bulldogs flag feels like it would be the perfect way to cap off one of the best years of sport we’ve ever seen.

Can they do it? Absolutely. They’ve got the hunger, the drive, the speed and the skills. They’ve gone far further than the odds suggest should ever be possible and there’s no good reason to believe they can’t go one step more.

Our game has seen some incredible stories over the 150 or so years that it has been played, but a flag from seventh, won by a team playing just their third grand final in 92 years in the competition, crippled by injury and crisis throughout the year? I don’t think that can be beat.

Should the Giants be flag favourites in 2017?
Despite now being out of the race for 2016, the Giants have already been installed as the flag favourites for 2017 according to betting markets.

That’s a fair call given the general view of the AFL public that the team is on the verge of a period of dominance. There’s an immense amount of talent on the list and it’s hard not to see success in the near future.

That said, don’t rule out a bit of a dip next year. Shane Mumford played a nearly full season this year for the first time in his career, and would be at long odds to pull that off again in 2017. Can he and the Giants’ other veteran players like Heath Shaw and Steve Johnson keep up their current pace?

And what about the off-season exits – the Giants are set to lose a fair bit of depth this October and might also lose a best 22 player or two, with Rory Lobb probably the biggest worry. He was one of their best yesterday and would be a significant loss.

This might have been the Giants’ chance to snatch one before their time, ala Hawthorn in 2008. Or, maybe they’ll win the next five straight. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise!

Boyd’s breaking out at the right time
Usually if a key forward didn’t kick a goal in three consecutive finals you’d be wondering how much value he really has for the team and even asking if he should be dropped.

But Tom Boyd has put in an excellent finals campaign – not starring, per se, but playing his role very well. When Jordan Roughead went down early, Boyd had to go head-to-head with Shane Mumford, one of the biggest beasts in the league, and held his own incredibly well.

It’s really a credit to Luke Beveridge’s excellent coaching. He demands versatility from his players and in doing so has turned Boyd from something of a one-dimensional key forward into a player who can have an impact all over the ground.

Perhaps Boyd will someday become the forward-line force that he has the potential to be. For now, he’s doing extremely well even if he’s not hitting up the scoreboard.

Smith comes out to Clay
If Clay Smith had played a bit-part role through the Bulldogs’ finals campaign, that would’ve been a pretty good story all things considered, especially given the repeat injuries he’s had to work his way back form.

Instead he’s been a match-winner against both the Hawks and now the Giants, kicking six goals in the past two weeks (oh, and laying 18 tackles across the fortnight as well).

That’s nothing short of incredible for a bloke who injuries have restricted to less than fifty AFL games. And to hear him speak of his late friend after the match was moving, too.

Stevie J left to rue his stuff-up
No one wants to cop a suspension during finals but Steve Johnson would be filled with regret tonight knowing that his team lost the chance to progress to a grand final in part due to his absence from the field.

His replacement, Rhys Palmer, really lacked impact and in a game that was decided by just a single goal you feel it’s pretty likely that Johnson could have been the difference.

Notably, he’s still without a contract for next year, but the Giants gave an indication after the game that he will get an offer from them to play on in 2017, should he choose to do so.

You’d expect that after today, his answer will be a very strong yes. He’s a competitive bloke who would refuse to let his career end in this kind of disappointment, if given any other opportunity.

The Crowd Says:

2016-10-05T02:09:46+00:00

Bruce

Guest


You were pretty much spot on!

2016-09-26T22:41:56+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Notice Bontempelii picked up 20 'charlie' votes. Those handful of things he does must be eye-catching.

2016-09-26T00:14:45+00:00

Al

Guest


Amazing due to most of the crowd being proper footy supporters (Doggies supporters) rather than orange seats or Red and White clad, middle class/hipster theatre goers.

2016-09-25T22:49:22+00:00

BigAl

Guest


Haa Ha King ! You are correct in saying that I could not have done a better job than West Coast. But possibly you and definately Golden Square could have. https://www.facebook.com/Official-Golden-Square-Football-Netball-Club-133854730021788/

2016-09-25T22:37:39+00:00

Penster

Guest


The umps have been the story for every single losing team whinging this year. It's unbelievable. Of course they make mistakes, but here's the birds eye, multiple camera angle replay view judging them. There's no conspiracy, there's not orders from head office to ensure Team A wins over Team B. Just baying ignorami who've probably never donned an umpires vest or a pair of footy boots, claiming "we was robbed" and booing the poor guys when they run onto the field!

2016-09-25T22:23:29+00:00

Momentbymoment

Guest


I just hope the umps don't become the story. It's happened too many times this year already.

2016-09-25T21:42:47+00:00

Pumping Dougie

Guest


Agreed - Stevie J could have made the difference. Silly boy, he can only blame himself. Then again, on the flip side, Murphy, Suckling, Crameri and Wallis were missed too.

2016-09-25T21:25:59+00:00

I hate pies

Guest


Step aside Blighty, Luke Beveridge is the messiah

2016-09-25T21:22:49+00:00

Gecko

Guest


The viewing figures may also have something to do with the new timeslot. Expect 5.15pm game starts to become more frequent now.

2016-09-25T21:20:28+00:00

I hate pies

Guest


You little beauty!!!! The thing that amazed me about the jumper punch from Wilson was that the umpire was watching it! He was about 2m away. I'm all for letting them play, but there were some really obvious ones over the weekend that should have been paid. For example, Zak Jones ran about 25m without a bounce from full back, and wasn't called, twice! Geelong would have kicked a goal for sure. This was about 5 minutes after a Geelong player got pinged for the same thing. Anywho, enough about the umpires, how's about them Doggies!!!

2016-09-25T21:11:39+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Agreed Rick. I do feel for the players now as I have my suspicions about getting swept up in the euphoria of those around the team. Bevo seems rock solid though and you don't think he can have 'em on track already and preparing properly?

2016-09-25T21:07:40+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


So many things could have happened differently on another night but I do agree that Stevie J could have had an impact on that game. When you think that Toby Greene was probably involved in 1/2 the GWS scores or more, to have another skillful player across half-forward could have led to a bigger score and maybe even a few more touches for Cameron? Would GWS have won the flag without him being suspended? I think GWS did not start well the other night and were lucky to not be torched. From there they couldn't take advantage of a faltering Doggies ruck brigade (Roughead out, Bontempelli 2 clearances, credit to Boyd as well though) and just fell short at the scoring end while they had a lot of loose ball with Haynes mopping up and Whitfield and Scully prolific. Unfotunately a less convincing effort from GWS in my book.

2016-09-25T20:29:28+00:00

Baz

Guest


All the recent afl grandfinals have been crap for nuetral fans. When its a smashing n not close would not even bother with it after half time

2016-09-25T20:26:58+00:00

gyfox

Guest


There was some space in the stadium - but it was an amazing atmosphere. The noise, right from the start was pulsating. You don't hear that sort of noise at other sports in Sydney.

2016-09-25T20:23:02+00:00

Matthew H

Guest


Just for the record Gecko, have not found a stat the Bont had a 0 in the other night. The only criticism I could make of his game was a low (2) clearance number. Lucky for him Dalhaus, Picken, Boyd & Liberatore picked him up there. Not sure the whole team starred last night, thought wasted early opportunities should have cost the game.

2016-09-25T20:22:06+00:00

gyfox

Guest


Sydney vs Melbourne rivalry is far bigger that sport.

2016-09-25T14:30:18+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


It looked like a tactic to reset the game rather than draw frees, in the knowledge that the umps wouldn't pay obvious duck but neither would they necessarily pay holding the ball because of the high contact. Held up the game nicely.

2016-09-25T13:48:01+00:00

swift foetus

Guest


:)

2016-09-25T13:46:32+00:00

Mister Football

Roar Guru


Agreed, it is an amazing result.

2016-09-25T13:45:22+00:00

Mister Football

Roar Guru


Yeh, pretty much, he had Cordy take on a bit of the rucking, but up against Mummy.... Anyway, the incredible thing is that Bevo loves these part-time rucks like Roughead and Boyd, in the mean time Big Will and Tom Campbell are in the reserves, so Bevo is obviously seeing or not seeing something, and it has paid off, but it's an unusual set of circumstances.

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