What if North Melbourne are good?

By Ryan Buckland / Expert

This wasn’t supposed to happen. North Melbourne are rebuilding, right? But what if they’re not? What if – no, for real – the Kangaroos are going to be good next year?

I wrote about North no more than eight weeks ago with one central premise: when everyone is buying, it’s a good time to be selling.

The Roos were just about to delist four veterans, including VFL/AFL games record holder Brent Harvey, and were in the middle of a second-half skid that culminated in a 2-9 finish to the season and elimination final loss.

They were swiftly installed as third favourite for the wooden spoon, behind rebuilders Carlton and Brisbane. Their fall from the middle class was all but assured.

As Jay Croucher often likes to say, life comes at you fast.

North Melbourne have retooled meaningfully over the past fortnight, picking up some very handy pieces that get to the heart of their biggest deficiencies. Their list profile is intriguing, and there is enough talent in the right places to leave one conflicted.

Cleaning house
The Roos are set to lose 1964 games of AFL experience between the 2016 and 2017 seasons, owing to the departures of Brent Harvey (432 games), Nick Dal Santo (322), Drew Petrie (316), Michael Firrito (275), Daniel Wells (243), Farren Ray (209), Robin Nahas (117) and Aaron Black (50). That’s a big number. How big? It’s the equivalent of four full AFL seasons for 22 players. It’s almost the same number of games experience sitting on the entire Brisbane Lions list coming into the 2016 season (1974).

That’s a meaningful cull. What’s more, Harvey, Petrie, Firrito and Dal Santo played 22 games or more last season. Wells played 19. These were key contributors on the field, and were most certainly influential off it.

Those moves alone will see the Roos drop to the middle of the pack in both age and experience next season. North will go from being the oldest and most experienced team in the league by some margin, to being pretty well average – maybe slightly above average on the age curve once everything shakes out.

It was a signal of intent: we gave it our best shot, but we weren’t good enough to win a premiership, so now it is time to reload and go again. North’s list management strategy over this cycle has been eminently defensible, for reasons we discussed a couple of months back. Pulling the pin was also the right call, no matter the pain it doubtlessly caused (although keeping a 34-year-old Jarrad Waite still smells funny).

My recommended course of action was an aggressive trade period, to stockpile a couple of extra picks at the top of the draft in an effort to get meaningfully younger. The competition is set to be intensely competitive for the next two or three years at least, so if you’re rebuilding, you should get out the dynamite rather than the sledgehammer.

Instead, the Roos have hedged; retaining their first and second round picks, sourcing a third from HQ as compensation for Wells’ departure, and bolting on three young players from other teams in Marley Williams, Nathan Hrovat and Paul Ahern.

Adding these six players as replacements for their six mature-age departures (putting Black to the side for a moment) is not quite like for like, but figuratively, it is meaningful. North Melbourne have got significantly younger very quickly, and the players they have added all address specific needs in a team with a solid core in place.

Are we sure they’re bad?
In the first 11 weeks of the 2016 season, North Melbourne were balling with the best teams. A 10-1 record overstated their abilities by just under two wins, but even then, the ‘Roos were playing at the level of an 8-3 team.

By the time the season ended, North had a Pythagorean expected win total of 12.1 wins, a fraction of a win more than they actually recorded. Their flame out was an all-timer, but it merely represented their regression to type after a very hot start to the season. They weren’t as great as a 10-1 record suggested – they never were great in their recent run – but they weren’t as terrible as a 2-9 record suggests, either.

When they were at their peak, North were scoring at a very healthy clip, ranking fourth on my Offensive Efficiency Rating in their first 11 games. Their forward line functioned incredibly well in those early days, with the three tall set of Petrie, Waite and Ben Brown making things difficult for opposition defenders. Shaun Higgins was a handful across half forward, as was Harvey. The ‘Roos were a transition-first team, content to sit back and counter punch rather than apply masses of forward pressure to win the territory game.

That works fine when you have players to kick to forward of the ball – when injuries start to mount, as they did at North, counterpunching becomes far more difficult.

The ‘Roos’ offensive potency dropped away meaningfully in the second half of the year, with their OER falling to 13th in the league. Over the full year, they were the eighth-best scoring side. They were also the eighth-best defence, powered in no small part by the emergence of Robbie Tarrant as a genuine key position defender – a position the ‘Roos had sorely lacked for years.

Again, over the full season North Melbourne weren’t a great side, but they weren’t bad either.

Offsetting this is the pivotal roles their now-departed veterans played in North’s 2016 season. A good way to view this is to look at Best and Fairest voting, which is run by the coaching staff. Wells and Harvey finished in the top five, while Dal Santo was seventh and Petrie was 13th.

Wells, Harvey and Dal Santo were key to North’s counter punching midfield system, while Petrie for all of his poor form still commanded a match up. As above, the five longest serving North veterans played a total of 109 of the 506 games available to be played in 2016. Losing these players is going to sting.

But those new recruits look mighty interesting. Yes the ‘Roos are losing some experience, but they are gaining three players who fit Brad Scott’s system well. With some better injury luck forward of the ball, it’s quite possible the ‘Roos don’t fall away in the manner we expect.

Play your role
The NBA season gets underway today. Team lists run just 15 men deep at the very most, and five players on the court at any time, meaning team construction is an incredibly important consideration when building towards a championship. It’s often said that there’s no way a team can win a title unless they have one of the best half a dozen players in the league, but equally as important are the role players – guys who fill specific needs or can play particular parts to help their team win.

We as a collective often get sucked into this mode of thinking when it comes to analysing Australian rules football. System is more important than individuals in a sport where 36 players are on the field at any time. The 2016 Western Bulldogs epitomise this; outside of a handful of key position players, the Bulldogs are all about flex and depth through the middle and up forward.

North Melbourne are not this; the ‘Roos have players who all have very useful characteristics, but they all have their flaws. When it all works, the ‘Roos can hang with anyone, but when it doesn’t, North Melbourne become very vulnerable.

That’s what has me so intrigued about their new additions. Each of Ahern, Hrovat and Williams possess important attributes that Scott can put to good use.

Ahern is a pacey outside midfielder, and will join a midfield sorely lacking wheels. The ‘Roos have one of the deepest inside midfield groups in the game, and a ruckman in Todd Goldstein who helps make the most of this strength. But outside of the departed Wells, there’s little flare. Ahern, who spent the year on the sidelines with a knee injury, will make an impact instantly. He and Jed Anderson, who was figuratively sidelined by North’s veterans last season, are a perfect, if unproven, pair.

Hrovat is Boomer-lite; a forward-midfielder with a strong nose for goal and a willingness to work both inside and outside through the middle. He was a victim of the Dogs’ success, unable to crack the senior team consistently in 2016 after an early season injury. The former Dog will pair nicely with Shaun Higgins at half forward, and with Kane Turner help build a forward-midfield group that adds flexibility.

Williams had an awful end to his time at Collingwood, culminating in a disastrous Round 23 outing against the Hawks where he quite literally was the difference (and then some) in a one point loss. A year prior, he finished in the top ten in Collingwood’s best and fairest, and looked set to join the swelling ranks of under-rated small defenders.

In 2015 Williams averaged 6.5 intercepts and 360 metres gained per game, both very good marks for a small back pocket. The ‘Roos will be hoping he can capture that form and become a mop up player to their hard working tall defensive set. Williams’ presence should also free up the likes of Jamie Macmillan and Shaun Atley (Macmillan in particular) to play more attacking roles.

Critically, the additions of Ahern, Hrovat and Williams line up well with the rest of North Melbourne’s demographics. All are below prime age – Ahern significantly so – and have time to grow with the rest of the sub-24-year-old group that North have been quietly assembling in recent years.

Even if these guys don’t work out, North Melbourne gave up a half eaten sandwich each for them: future third and fourth round picks which will end up somewhere in the 50s and 60s, and this year’s seventh round pick which, as we discussed on Monday, is nigh on useless these days. North’s recruiting staff know their list, know its weaknesses, and have gone about filling them astutely. They will also add three talented youngsters with high picks in the draft.

There’s plenty of water to travel under the bridge, but from the haze of October North fans should feel good about their team’s trade period – at the very worst it has been deliberate and tidy. The anguish of losing a cluster of respected and loved veterans will still sting. But the beauty of this time of year is hope springs eternal.

North Melbourne are going to go backwards next year, but perhaps not as far as we thought a fortnight ago. They might even be good.

The Crowd Says:

2016-10-28T21:32:17+00:00

Pumping Dougie

Guest


I would describe Hrovat as a bit of a hybrid but more of an outside, link player. I think he'll become popular with teammates and supporters too. I hope he gets a good run with his body and avoids the series of frustrating, untimely small tissue injuries he's had to date.

2016-10-28T02:08:40+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


I think WCE are a chance due to poor away record and having an easy draw when looking at the teams they played twice.

2016-10-28T02:08:12+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


But as I noted above they didn't have the easiest draw. Of the teams they played twice, none were lower than 9th. Some teams played 2 bottom 3 teams twice. They had easy periods, but overall it was most one of the most difficult draws based on where their opponents finished.

2016-10-27T23:29:05+00:00

hal

Guest


North won't be bottom four and Brisbane have a knack of avoiding wooden spoons that they should get. Last season Brisbane were the worst team by far but they lucked out because Essendon had their players suspended. In 2015 Brisbane had a far easier draw than Carlton, due to Carlton's demand for Friday night games. Despite this Brisbane looked set to get the spoon until they came up against Footscray in the last game of the season. Footscray played bruise free football because they wanted players right for the finals. This worked in my favor because I put money on Carlton to get the spoon before the season when they were 20 to 1. Brisbane are like Melbourne as they avoid spoons that they should get. This will happen again and Carlton could end up with another one as they have a hard draw. For the fourth year in a row they play Freo away. Bottom four: Blues, Lions, Suns, and Power.

2016-10-27T19:35:29+00:00

hal

Guest


North will drop out of the eight. Essendon will make the eight. St Kilda could also make the eight. North won't be bottom four. People don't give them enough credit. Even with Sam Mitchell West Coast are a chance of dropping out of the eight. Melbourne will go backwards this year, finishing nowhere near the eight. They are over rated while North are under rated.

2016-10-27T12:13:27+00:00

Swannies

Guest


Not bagging North...stating facts. They had the easiest draw in 2016 and stumbled into the finals on the back of their deceptive 9 wins. With Harvey and Wells gone they are heading for a lengthy rebuild. They've had their time in the finals and weren't good enough so time to go back to where they belong for a while - the bottom 8.

2016-10-27T00:26:11+00:00

Slane

Guest


Why has Ziebell not come on? I thought he was going to be Dangerfield 2.0 a couple of seasons ago but it just hasn't happened.

2016-10-26T23:55:41+00:00

Perry Bridge

Guest


More to the point you generally have a less successful year when your full back wins the B&F. North did much better the years Wayne Carey won the B&F compared to the years Mick Martyn won it. The top 3 were Tarrant, Ziebell and (much underrated) Gibson. Then Wells and Harvey, then Macmillan, Dal Santo, Cunnington, Swallow and Brown. A key absentee from the top 10 was Goldstein.

2016-10-26T23:43:53+00:00

Perry Bridge

Guest


#Stewie With respect to youth - I was a little surprised that Wagner debuted in 2016 ahead of Ryan Clarke who I really like. Very glad that the two of them got a taste of it in 2016 and both got some successive games. Somewhat surprised that Clarke didn't return later to add a bit of 'zip'. The injury blighted year for Kayne Turner was bad luck - recalling the 'resting' game in Rnd 23 v Richmond - he looked a class above most of the rest, kicked 3 goals and was looking like 2016 could be an important year for him (to perhaps push a Dal Santo out of the way). Well, now Dal Santo has gone and the challenge is for Turner to get his body right and become a regular fixture. There is a reasonable group of players 24 and younger. Mullett impressed me with his development this year. Ben Brown is a regular. Mason Wood should be, was injury hampered and will be a regular especially with Petrie gone. Garner had a wasted year due injury but had locked himself in through the finals campaign in 2015 and started well in 2016. McDonald also came unstuck via injury but is still just nudging 22. Dumont is perhaps a little bit of 'sameness' with our 1 pace midfield but is a goer. The opportunities are there for players in 2016 to lock themselves in. It will be interesting to see who steps up.

2016-10-26T22:17:18+00:00

David C

Guest


I think Brisbane already have 1 hand on the wooden spoon so things would have to go horribly wrong for North to slip that far but bottom 4 is a distinct possibily. Brisbane, North, Carlton plus one other.

2016-10-26T13:47:36+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


Daniel Wells and Brent Harvey were 4th and 5th.

2016-10-26T12:26:48+00:00

Swanny

Guest


Hey swannies your back bagging north again .. U went so quiet when Sydney failed in the g f . Time to Go back into your shell

AUTHOR

2016-10-26T11:26:12+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


To clarify, I've taken "games available" as the total potential games playable by North Melbourne players. So that's 22 players x 23 games = 506 games. I see where you're coming from though, 115 being the five vets playing 23 games.

2016-10-26T10:50:53+00:00

Kavvy

Guest


You've written "109 of the 506 games available" where it should say "109 of the 115 games available" Might be worth editing for the benefit of flow

2016-10-26T10:41:33+00:00

Swannies

Guest


North will finish in the bottom 4 in 2017 and will have big losses. It will take them another 5 years to reach the finals again. They will have a new coach by 2019. But I think it will be a welcome change to see Richmond or Saints take their spot in the 8. Doggies are also good chance to surpass North's 4 flags in the next decade!

2016-10-26T07:25:39+00:00

Stewie

Guest


For the past few years, I've been super disappointed in how North have managed their youth. Getting players like Hrovat and Ahearn for basically zilch is a good start, but honestly tell me, which youngsters do they have who have played more than 5 games (Vickers-Wills is a name I've been hearing a bit, but if Wagner got a debut before him, that says a lot about either VW or NM) and can match it with the youth of WB, GWS, Melb, StK, Carlton, or even Sydney or Adelaide?

2016-10-26T07:22:21+00:00

Stewie

Guest


So 2016 was the refresh year? Losing Bird, Goodes, Jetta, Shaw, Pyke? :P

2016-10-26T07:02:07+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


None finished top 5 in their best and fairest.

2016-10-26T07:00:51+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Probably fair. But that basically describes 14 teams depending on conditions.

2016-10-26T06:24:08+00:00

Perry Bridge

Guest


For North forward potency shouldn't be an issue - however - that said, Harvey was a high quality small forward, especially when Higgins was down. Thomas and Higgins have to stay on their feet and Wagner and Clarke have to develop. The midfield transition - where you need pace and skill is the danger area - Wells when functioning was a stand out in this role but North need to develop new capacity in this area. The guys who missed most of 2016 (esp the back half) in Higgins, Turner, Garner, Wright, Jacobs and even Anderson will be like new recruits relative to the North that floundered in the 2nd half of the season. Like anyone - injuries are a key - and clearly North too were hamstrung by in-game match ending injuries.

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