Boot Russia out of international sport

I would ban WADA from sports not Russia. What a sanctimonious bunch of turkeys. The drugs in sport issue is a complete hypocrisy based on the false assumption that you can have a level playing field - mixed with an anti drugs crusade. A better option would be to regulate performance enhancing drugs, not ban them.

Absolute rubbish comrade. Keep stirring up anti Russian sentiment, it'll help the masses think war with Russia is a necessary evil.

I would say Essendon and Cronulla are worse than Russia, they were actively injecting athletes not avoiding testing them. Arguing the punishment they got severe is a joke compared to missing the Olympics is effectively a 4 year ban for athletes. Its a simple equation if yoi want to ban RUssia and punish a whole country for the actions of some, then there is no worry doing it to Essendon and Cronulla for 4 years. Now people want to wipe out 2 Olympics thats 8 years of an athletes life and their whole career, then apply that 8 year ban to Essendon and Cronulla.

Yes time to ban Russia. Next up is the USA where many have been drugged to the eyeballs for years. We need a Russian style investigation into Americas Olympic drug cheats, the likes of Tyson Gay. Since abnormal hormone profiles are a pretty good indication that something is amiss I would like to see the athlete responses to their profiles being released. The myriad of reasons would fill books. The drug testing is obviously pointless if not done independently and all Russian testing was bogus. If professionally done the bar scans on the samples would not be available to anyone but the original tester initially and stored . There are cross examination samples done to verify readings. So the whole testing regime is geared to and has failed. It is hopelessly unprofessional and like in Lance Armstrongs case, you just bully your way through. So why can't a well funded organisation test properly and independently. Probably because they are all corrupt like NSW politicians.

I doubt that Trump will need to do anything. Neither the OIC nor FIFA would be prepared to stand up to Putin. He's got all the cards - he could expose exactly how Russia got the Winter Olympics and the World Cup.

I'm not arguing with you on that - just pointing out that Ahmed is wrong to compare a doping scheme sanctioned by the Russian government and their anti-doping agencies with a couple of teams undertaking illicit doping programs and being penalized for it. Cronulla got off lightly, Essendon has paid a very big price for their incompetent oversight - loss of key players for a year, lawsuits, fines, legal bills - quite a different thing to the way the Russians have been treating their sporting bodies.

David, good luck banning Russia from international sport. The forthcoming president of the United States is very friendly with Putin. It's not going to happen.

There were no bans for the clubs Essendon and Cronulla who ran systematic drug cheating. They should have been wiped out for 4 years from their respective competitions and their should have been jail sentences for their executives plus Dank for unauthorised human drug experimentation.

I doubt FIFA will have the stomach for rescheduling the WC. I do see that Sochi has just been stripped of the Skeleton and Bobsled world championships. Good. Maybe Putin's property holdings in Sochi won't be worth quite as much as he expected.

This provides a somewhat more balanced analysis: http://www.bbc.com/sport/38261608

The Essendon and Cronulla players all got bans for taking those substances. And you can hardly argue that the Australian government was involved in covering up the supplements scheme. As for your link, it sounds like something straight out of the Russian Ministry of Communications.

I'm not stating that I firmly believe there is something fishy going on, but I do think it warrants further investigation. For example this link here http://theduran.com/agenda-russian-olympics-doping-scandal/ discusses the politics of the scandal. I found it rather interesting during the essendon/cronulla supplements scandal that athletes were being injected with supplements that were rather similar to banned substances. And this occurs in Sports and countries all over the world. The Russians do their research into possible supplements and so do the usa.

It is a bit late to strip them of WC2018, but is it the Russian name you would like removed David. What are your thoughts on Russians training and competing under the IOC banner? A lot of them are involced but there are also a lot who arent. Do you ban Russian nationals competing or those who train under the Russian regime.

Balderdash. The Russians were engaging in "sports science" before it was a science anywhere else. They've had 40 years of practice at the illicit use of drugs and of working around the primitive testing regimes in place. Now, testing is a little more sophisticated and they've been caught red-handed, doping on an industrial scale. And the national government has been up to its ears in the scam. Athletes get two or four year bans for doping: I see no reason why the complicit sports federations in Russia shouldn't get the same.

Ban Russia, US and Great Britain There is no doubt that the other two have exploited TUEs and cheated the system. That would leave Australia with its biggest medal tally of all.

Im with Ahmed on this one. If you poke the bear with a hot stick the refrigerator is always going to run....i mean, thats of course how you make babies. Simple. Thanks Ahmed!

Make sport great again - trump for head of IOC and WADA

Ahmed, WTF?