Good genes and upbringing or just plain luck? The NRL's best father-son combos

By Jimmy Smith / Expert

It didn’t quite break the internet but there was a quiet murmur that recently went around the rugby league social media swirl.

It came when Eden Cartwright, daughter of John and sister of new Panthers recruit Jed, posted online a letter from her father to her brother.

I am not sure if a breach of privacy was considered before doing it – understandably Eden is very proud of her father and brother. And it is understandable that something as heartfelt as this letter is worthy of wider exposure.

As I mentioned at the time, this type of thing gives all of us fathers a roadmap about how to go about raising our children. Penning a note using positive reinforcement, while managing expectations with an undercurrent of love is a very powerful way to speak to our children. Not the only way, but one with enormous cut through.

Having called Jed in the Holden Cup on Fox Sports, I know he is a player of promise. His performances at the Nines in the young Panthers squad suggested that promise may be about to be fulfilled. We don’t know if Jed will ‘make it’ or not, and both outcomes were mentioned by John in the letter, but I will take an even greater interest in his progress in 2017.

It got me thinking about the prevalence of second and third-generation elite level rugby league players that we have seen over the years. Aside from the physical benefits of coming from a gene pool that history has shown has the capacity for elite-level sport, there must be more to it than that. And maybe for every son of a former player that makes it, there might be two, five, even ten, that don’t.

I really think there is a conditioning of what is ‘normal’ for that child.

“My dad played for the Tigers, so that is something that I could do when I grow up,” must go through the head of these youngsters. I’m sure careers advisers around the country rail against that thought, but many times it works out.

My dad was a cow cocky and wheat farmer from the Riverina. I had no doubt that I could have done that for the rest of my life. Farming is a profession where generational succession is legendary, but for some reason I didn’t do it (that might be a birth order thing, being the youngest of four).

What if you were Jed Cartwright, though, and even if you didn’t see your dad play live (Jed was born in 1996, John’s last year in the NRL), you have been around him in his various coaching capacities and would have seen the old tapes of him? Would you just think “that is what Dad did, so I’ll do it too”?

I’ll never forget a quote I heard from Mat Rogers saying that when he was five he went to the footy with his dad, a universally accepted and encouraged pastime. The thing is, it was 1981 and his dad, the legendary Steve Rogers, was playing in the centres for Australia against the touring French at the SCG, a game the Kangaroos won 43-3 with one S Rogers scoring a try.

That, to him, was normal.

I am sure things like environment, birth order, family expectation and a thousand other factors also come into play when it comes to playing elite level rugby league. But having a significant figure in your life tread the path previously must make things that little more likely.

What’s that you say? You want to know who I think are the top five father and son combinations in rugby league history? (Well maybe not history, let’s go with since 1960.)

Before getting to the list, special mention to the Hughes family of Canterbury fame, and Garry in particular. One of three brothers to play in a premiership winning team, he is also the father of three sons who played NRL for the Bulldogs. His sons Glen, Steven and Corey, played over 450 games for the club and won two premierships with Canterbury between them.

Also keep an eye on Max King this year. Max plays for the Gold Coast in the Holden Cup. If he was to make it to NRL level at some stage of his career, he would be the fourth generation of his family to play elite rugby league after great grandfather Cec King (Rabbitohs, 1945-46), grandfather the legendary Johnny King (St George, 1960-71), and father David King (Gold Coast, 1991-92).

5. Wayne Pearce and son Mitchell
The face of the game throughout the 80s, Wayne brought new levels of professionalism to rugby league in representing Australia and captaining NSW and Balmain. His son Mitchell played NRL at 17 and State of Origin for NSW at 19 and has presently played over 200 matches at just 27 years of age.

Mitchell was also able to achieve something his father couldn’t – winning a premiership with the Roosters in 2013.

4. Craig Young and son Dean
Craig Young was a fearsome prop for St George, NSW and Australia, playing 20 Tests and captaining the Dragons to premiership success in 1979. Craig’s father Bob played football for Australia and Craig had to choose between football and rugby league as a junior.

Dean always had the underrated tag in his ten seasons with St George Illawarra and despite injuries throughout his career, played for NSW and Australia and won a premiership in 2010.

3. Bill Mullins and son Brett
Injuries robbed Bill Mullins the chance of playing for Australia but in 11 seasons with the Roosters, he scored 104 tries and won premierships in 1974 and 1975. Son Brett was an absolute excitement machine for a decade, also scoring over 100 NRL tries, playing for NSW and Australia and winning premierships with Canberra (1994) and Sydney (2002).

2. Steve Morris and sons Brett and Josh
Steve Morris was the last player to represent Australia from a country-based team, playing in a Test in 1978 while turning out for the Dapto Canaries. Across 12 seasons in the NSWRL, Steve scored 122 tries.

Brett Morris has scored 131 tries for the Dragons and Bulldogs, won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010 and has represented NSW on 12 occasions and Australia on 18.

Twin Josh has scored 105 tries for the same two clubs and has represented Australia (six caps) and NSW (14) regularly, including in the winning 2014 series.

1. Steve Rogers and son Mat
Arguably Cronulla’s greatest player, Steve Rogers had 13 seasons in top grade rugby league, played for Australia in 24 games and represented NSW multiple times, including in the very first State of Origin game. He was a Rothmans Medal and Dally M winner.

Son Mat played 12 years in elite rugby league with perhaps his best years spent in rugby union between 2002-06. Mat played for Australia and Queensland and scored 1360 points for the Cronulla Sharks and Gold Coast Titans.

The Crowd Says:

2017-02-17T14:51:18+00:00

Mike L

Guest


Don't forget Wayne's other son: Scott Minto

2017-02-16T08:49:22+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Andrew and Brad Tessman

2017-02-16T05:31:17+00:00

Albo

Guest


Yep ! Whilst it was a great letter from a father to his son and shows what a top character John Cartwright is, not sure the daughter has done her brother too many favours plastering it on social media. Can only think it will place even more pressure on the kid, who is probably already battling in the shadows of both his father & cousin and their football achievements ! Hence John probably wrote the letter of support.

2017-02-16T01:07:50+00:00

Pomoz

Roar Rookie


Ah, so that's how it got into the media. When I saw the letter I thought that it didn't seem like the sort of thing John would do, as he is quite a humble shy bloke. I bet he cringed when he saw what his daughter had done. Social media can be a tricky beast, just ask Todd Carney. Oh and Joel Monaghan. Oh and Junior Paulo. Oh and Bryce Cartwright for that matter. Eden, you should have spoken to your cousin.....

2017-02-16T01:00:49+00:00

Pomoz

Roar Rookie


Chris mightn't have been a prop, but he was nails hard and would have given it a good go!

2017-02-15T22:27:38+00:00

Squidward

Roar Rookie


When you watch the footage of Jack Rogers you can see 100% Mat in the way he runs and plays and even Steve as well. So in their case, brilliant genes!!

2017-02-15T13:32:21+00:00

Johnno

Guest


walters brothers of course. Heck Alan and Kevin Langer lol. Kevin Langer was decent he played BRL pre-1988.

2017-02-15T11:01:20+00:00

Johnno

Guest


MG had a son was in NYC but had injury problems I think. Matt Johns son signed with newcastle. Dell's son is with Dragons NYC side.

2017-02-15T10:59:15+00:00

Johnno

Guest


The Walker brothers were all handy, Chris easily could of played for Australia based on ability. Soronsen boys there's 2 props there. or burgess boys.

2017-02-15T10:09:06+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

Guest


*soar*

2017-02-15T09:52:00+00:00

Nayfo

Guest


Great read Jimmy, Hadn't read that letter yet from Carty to his son but wow what a powerful letter. Just wanted to add that i expect that Adrian Lam and his son Lachie Lam to get a run in a similar article in a few years. That kid can play and if he is half as good as his dad was then he will have a long career in the top grade.

2017-02-15T09:47:51+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

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Kevin 'Horrie" Hastings, will slide into the discussion should his son Jackson decide to keep his head down and bum up. I rate the lad big time, and if and when he gets his chance to play alongside DCE then I expect him to sore to lofty heights.

2017-02-15T09:26:15+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Father/son not brothers...

2017-02-15T09:24:03+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Mark Hughes was brother to Graeme and Garry and played lock in the Dogs 1980 Premiership side. Chris Mortimer wasn't a prop. He finished his career in the second row but was the best choice out of the 13 Dogs brothers. Maybe I should have gone Jason Smith as prop...

2017-02-15T08:47:53+00:00

Johnno

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Terry randall and chad randall of course

2017-02-15T08:41:39+00:00

Johnno

Guest


chris mortimer wasn't a prop. Ive heard of mark hughes the knights wing/centre, but no lock called Mark Hughes. Andrew Johns/Matt Johns both would go close to making any squad. And when I say 1st grade I mean NSWRL/BRL days when it was good/ARL/NRL Sims boys would be looked at in any brothers squad to.

2017-02-15T08:40:15+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


19 premierships 34 grand final appearances 43 games for NSW 41 games for Qld 61 games for Australia and 20 first class cricket games for NSW

2017-02-15T08:03:17+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Done... 1. Brett Morris 2. Glen Hughes 3. Josh Morris 4. Steve Hughes 5. Peter Mortimer 6. Garry Hughes 7. Steve Mortimer 8. Graeme Hughes 9. Corey Hughes 10. Chris Mortimer 11. Jason Smith 12. Darren Smith 13. Mark Hughes

2017-02-15T07:39:12+00:00

Johnno

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An all time brother side, or at least since 1960 or 1970 would be good.(criteria is you and your brother must have played 1st grade. eg guys like the French brothers/Burgess brothers/Sorenson brothers etc.

2017-02-15T07:08:01+00:00

jamesb

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We could soon see Jack Rogers, son of Mat, grandson of Steve coming through playing for the Sharks. And if that's the case, Jimmy would have to come up with another article: "Good genes and upbringing or just plain luck? The NRL’s best grandfather- father-son combos"

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