Carlton and Collingwood are moving in opposite directions

By Tim Lane / Expert

With 22 pieces to manoeuvre, 18 in play at one time with almost unlimited rotations permissible, on a big board used far more strategically than it once was, the performances of AFL coaches have never been more influential.

To be good, a modern coach must devise a game plan that maximises the output of the group of players at his disposal. To be great, he must be able to reconfigure that plan as his list, and general playing strategies, change.

All of which means the business of coach-watching has never been more interesting. And the beauty of it is we can never be sure how much the coaches’ efforts are worth.

We can count disposals, marks, hard-ball gets, metres gained, tackles, goals scored and so on in relation to players. With the coaches, though, it’s all down to the number of ‘W’ and ‘L’ entries that accumulate next to their club’s name over some arbitrary period.

And even with a 70 per cent win record over an extended period, a coach can still succumb. All it takes is a couple of losses on certain dates in the month of September, over a couple of seasons, when the club chiefs believed only Ws were acceptable.

As Ross Lyon pointed out this week, there’s just one AFL coach for every 1.4 million Australians. Those who do the job enter an exclusive domain which brings good money, significant privilege, and suffocating pressure. And definitely not in that order.

Last weekend, I saw Collingwood and Carlton lose on the MCG in what were considered winnable games. As I drove home on Sunday night, I thought about the respective coaches.

By 5pm Saturday, Nathan Buckley was the name on every talkback caller’s lips. Clearly, he’s in deep trouble. Brendon Bolton, meanwhile, is rightly regarded as doing a brilliant job of turning Carlton into a team that can no longer be taken for granted by opponents.

Currently, Collingwood and Carlton are on five wins each. As I thought about their respective playing lists, it occurred to me there’s not much between them.

I’d say Carlton have the better back six, marginally better marking targets in Levi Casboult and Charlie Curnow and a better ruckman in Matthew Kreuzer. Their three best midfielders – Mark Murphy, Patrick Cripps, and Bryce Gibbs – are at least comparable with Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, and Adam Treloar.

Perhaps the Magpies have better mid-field depth, although some Magpie supporters are debating that right now, and maybe Jamie Elliott’s brilliance gives Collingwood’s small forward brigade a slight edge.

(AAP Image/Julian Smith)

Yet the judgements on the two coaches are currently at either end of the scale. There are two reasons for this that I can see: one, Bolton is pointing his team north, while Buckley’s Collingwood have been on a consistent southward course over almost six seasons. During this season, the two clubs’ pathways have intersected.

The other reason is that Bolton’s Carlton side displays a very clear game-plan, while Collingwood’s method is less discernible.

Bolton brought sniggers pre-season when he said Carlton weren’t currently defining themselves by wins and losses. But his words have since been validated. It’s possible Carlton will win fewer games this year than last and yet have improved.

Last year there were eight heavy defeats. This year there have been three to date. The team is becoming more competitive, although it continues to lack scoring power. By next season, there will be reasonable expectation of the coach that a solution is emerging.

You could probably say Buckley’s Collingwood are better to watch than Carlton, based on their game styles. Bolton has the Blues playing a highly disciplined, safety-first, possession game. Collingwood’s method appears less rigid, but the Pies reached late June without suffering a heavy defeat.

Lately, though, the cracks have begun to show. Their three worst defeats of the year have come in the last three games.

So it is that a young coach who has never played at the highest level is on the up, while another – with the most impeccable playing pedigree – is on the rack. In the end – even though Brendon Bolton is insulated from this harsh reality for the time being – wins and losses do define a coach.

The question is, what happens from here? Time is always on the wing.

Carlton’s skipper, Murphy, turns 30 next week. Fellow number one draft picks, Gibbs and Kreuzer, are now in their late-20s. Kade Simpson is 33, while ‘Daisy’ Thomas might manage one more season. In the team-building business, there is never time to waste.

The Pies’ attempts to build a team in the Buckley era now appear to have come to nothing. Alas, for a great champion of the game, time has just about run out.

The Crowd Says:

2020-09-13T04:49:41+00:00

Jimmy

Guest


How’s Carlton’s brand going Kane? Never change Carlton. Another rebuild?

2020-09-13T04:47:10+00:00

Jimmy

Guest


Carlton getting flogged by wooden spooners Adelaide. Just wanted to check into this forum to see why Carlton are actually a dominant team but I just don’t understand coz I’m bias and stuff

2019-06-19T14:26:03+00:00

Tithy

Guest


I think tim lane should write another great foretelling article. What wisdom and and eye for the game he has. Haha

2019-05-09T01:54:38+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Why are you necroing a post from a year ago?

2019-05-09T01:36:01+00:00

Bobby

Guest


Carlton are the currently the worst team in history Collingwood are premiership favourites The article claims Carlton were heading up the ladder and Collingwood were heading down. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say the article was 100% wrong

2019-05-09T01:26:23+00:00

Bobby

Guest


“Roar guru” - if that’s the quality of comment from a “guru” I’d hate to see how inaccurate and amateur would be. So much salt about Collingwood. You should all spend some time thinking about how your hate made you ignorant

2019-05-09T01:22:28+00:00

Jimmy

Guest


wow - not much is accurate there. Turns out you don’t really know much about talent huh?

2019-05-09T01:15:45+00:00

Bobby

Guest


Awwwww g’day Macca! How are those stat comparisons going Macca?? Are those Carlton players even on your list anymore? Is degoey still crap in your view? Is Williamson still better than Darcy Moore? Might be time to show the world that Carlton suppprters are not al ignorant and admit defeat. This article and the salty Carlton commenters have been owned

2019-05-09T01:08:59+00:00

Bobby

Guest


Hey Macca. How are those comparisons going champ? How’s Darcy Moore going? Is Williamson and Cunningham still on your list? How’d are Collingwood going? Have they fallen behind Carlton yet? Tim Lane said it happened two years ago so I’d love a salty update. Might be time for you to admit you got this one wrong

2019-05-08T04:07:25+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


What do you think Darren?

2019-04-18T04:45:16+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


How about now Darren?

2019-04-18T04:42:21+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Macca, can you see now why I was talking up Moore, Maynard and De Goey?

2019-04-18T04:40:12+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Thoughts on that comment now Birdman?

2019-04-18T04:39:41+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


How'd that comment work out for you Tricky?

2018-06-27T03:32:33+00:00

Macca

Guest


Bobby - how are those comparison going? Given the amount of games Moore, Williamson & Cuningham have missed through injury I would suggest they are relatively unchanged as a comparison. You also really need to have a another read of the original post - nowhere does it mention Carlton "dominating" "I am not really sure why you thinks that these players are quality young players who will naturally improve but the blues players are unproven young talent." I do love how many Collingwood supporters are flocking back to this article because they think the fact have managed to beat 1 top 8 side (and that was Melbourne) it is suddenly proof this article is wrong.

2018-06-27T02:31:08+00:00

Bobby

Guest


Hey Macca, can you please give me an update on how these stat comparisons are going? Are Carlton still dominating in your view? To paraphrase Birdman: "But go on and keep the faith, it’s your club and no-one outside it cares if the Blues continue on at the current trajectory." I hope it stings hard Macca

2018-06-13T08:37:50+00:00

Jimmy

Guest


This comment aged well.

2018-06-08T00:21:36+00:00

Jimmy

Guest


Do you think journalists ever say to themselves “Wow, I wish I didn’t write this article?”

2017-07-14T23:39:19+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Collingwood has only one? That's a young side!

2017-07-14T02:19:01+00:00

Tricky

Guest


Age stat might not mean much, but interestingly Collingwood is equal 6th most experienced on 64 games avg with port and dogs and Carlton 2nd least on 53 games avg. So yeah Collingwood what's your excuse for being so abhorrent? Oh that's right a combination of things which looks likely to be addressed at seasons end. One day at a time my beloved Pies - every day we're 1 day closer to turning it around!

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