In support of Michael Hooper for the Wallabies

By Lukas / Roar Pro

According to many pundits and Roarers, Michael Hooper is manifestly unfit for the Wallaby captaincy. One half the argument goes to his leadership abilities, the other half to his playing abilities.

I will be addressing only the latter in this article.

I will come clean about one thing right off the bat – I am a Waratahs fan. And so feel free to knock my arguments based upon this logic if you like. But I think the discussion would be better served by playing the ball not the man.

The story goes that Michael Hooper should not be an automatic selection for the Wallabies, and thus should not be considered for Wallabies captain. I’ll critique what I think are the three core arguments.

1. He spends too much time ranging around in the backs, and thus neglects the core work of a number seven, namely, clearing out rucks and winning turnovers
This argument can perhaps be summed up by this Mark Ella quote: “he has to decide whether he wants to play in the forwards or in the backs.”

Does he now Mark?

Players that link between forwards and backs are integral to the modern game. Teams that have an ‘extra’ back at key moments in a match create a lot more scoring opportunities. I can think of no better example than Dane Coles for the All Blacks. He is encouraged to play like this because his play leads to tries, and tries win matches.

By all means make the argument that by spending so much time among the backs Michael Hooper neglects his core roles, but criticising a player along these lines on face value seems ridiculous.

And so onto the second half of this argument, that Hooper does not do the job of an openside flanker well enough to warrant selection.

Hooper’s work at the breakdown has to my mind clearly improved, and some statistics back that up. In this year’s Super Rugby tournament, he ranked number two for turnovers won.

Then there are the new rules. Spiro Zavos’s recent column about the Wallabies captaincy kind of made my head spin. I’ll quote Spiro here, talking about David Pocock, arguably Australia’s best over the ball open-side flanker:

“Pocock is a traditional number seven; brilliant over the ball at a time when the laws of rugby are being adjusted to take this skill, with its high risk of head injuries, out of the game.”

If the rules are changing to take fetching out of the game (although I’m not convinced it will – but this is another argument), wouldn’t that increase Michael Hooper’s relative value because his supposed weak ball fetching would no longer cost the team the now non-existent turnover opportunities?

My personal opinion is the weakest area of Hooper’s game relative to, say, David Pocock, is his cleaning out on attacking rucks. This goes somewhat to his positioning – if you’re waiting for the pass you’re not up the arse of the guy getting tackled – and somewhat to his physical size.

He doesn’t blow blokes of the ball like a bigger man. But again, if people getting their hands on the ball is not so common in the game, is this not also somewhat nullified?

(AP Photo/Matt Dunham)

2. Hooper is a ‘lone ranger’ – which I take to mean he supposedly does not work in concert with his teammates
Again, it was Spiro Zavos who really got my goat up on this one, and I quote:

“This Lone Ranger mode is a strength of his [Hooper’s] game, allowing him to explode in brilliant one-off runs, for instance. But it is also a weakness, as his whole game is much less effective throughout the 80 minutes of play than it is in a handful of moments.”

Except that he doesn’t just do it in a handful of moments. He does it repeatedly for 80 minutes. And how is being in position to take the pass and running into the gap not being an ensemble player?! The gap is often created as part of an ensemble play! Head shaking stuff this.

Finally, I’ll like to take you all back to two Nicholas Bishop articles, a much more astute rugby scribe than I, to make my case further.

His article from 2016: ‘Was Bob Dwyer right about Michael Hooper?’ And from 2017: ‘The Wallaby back five has taken five steps back’. My take on the main jist of these two articles is as follows:

1. Hooper is actually good in contact – at being physical – and is relatively effective at creating breakdown pressure, and;

2. Hooper may at times seem like a “lone ranger” but this is because his teammates don’t match his fitness and speed, and dare I say commitment, or is it pain threshold?

The latter is perhaps most telling. To criticise a player for being too good, and thus making “lone ranger” game breaking plays is ridiculous. How about, why in the world was someone not there with him?

3. Hooper weakens the lineout, especially if picked with David Pocock.

I’ll grant that the lineout does mean the that picking ‘Pooper’ has its pitfalls. To me, the deciding factor here is whether or not the locks and number 8s are genuine world class jumpers – they basically have to be – and your lineout thrower of the top ilk. This is all possible to achieve, but by no means easy with our cattle.

The new rules may prove to be the deciding factor here, as if Pocock’s impact is limited, this may tip the scales towards not picking him.

For my mind going into the future – letting time tell on the availability of top lineout operators and Pocock’s effectiveness – the main challenger to Hooper is Liam Gill. He has a complete game that could become even more complete in time. It is a shame he didn’t stay in Australia and push for a spot in the side.

This being said, much of the whinging on this site would have one believe that Gill’s leaving was somehow the fault of Michael Cheika for picking Hooper.

So a coach prefers another to you? Get better. Make it impossible for him to leave you out. This is what New Zealanders desperate to play for the All Blacks do on a regular basis.

Hooper is one of Australia’s best rugby players, and thus deserves his spot, but he is no Richie McCaw; Liam Gill could have, and still can, take his spot. Gill has played well, but not kicked down the door.

The Crowd Says:

2017-08-04T11:30:01+00:00

double agent

Guest


10 -15??? FFS!!

2017-08-04T10:09:42+00:00

double agent

Guest


Tried that against the British Lions. Didn't go so good.

2017-08-04T10:06:09+00:00

double agent

Guest


The only one he would sit on the bench for is Sam Cane.

2017-08-03T14:51:12+00:00

double agent

Guest


He's too small to be a 7 but suddenly he's big enough to be a 2.

2017-08-03T14:16:06+00:00

double agent

Guest


Bib you've just named two players that are unavailable for selection. Please. Try to keep up.

2017-08-03T10:19:52+00:00

Ken Catchpole's Other. Leg

Guest


Highlander, this looks like a good stat, except if we were to win the games discussed, someone else may have done the bulk of the scoring. Stats in a losing teamneed to be assessed in this context, imho.

2017-08-03T07:55:00+00:00

Highlander

Guest


correct, generally last loosie up stays on that side of the park and waits for the play to come back to him. more difficult if you only have one guy capable of the skills when the ball does come back your way when you have multiple options easier to do your core roles

2017-08-03T05:53:57+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


I too am curious to know what impact the new rules will have. In open play, an isolated runner is going to have more time if they are tackled 1-on-1 . The tackler must release, stand up and then enter from behind. The ball carrier gets an extra second or so for the cavalry to arrive. This will make Hoops less effective. A crash-baller is going to be better off, if they run as a pair, the ruck is automaticaly formed at the tackle, preventing a pilfer. My prediction is that the 7 position will become more like a Scott Fardy Mobile 6 Hardman. Which will suit Gill and MacMahon more than Hoops and Pocock. I am just speculating, Perhaps Nick Bishop can do an Article on this to explore the implications.

2017-08-03T05:42:23+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


Gill only has a couple of inches on Hoops but he is much more proficient. MacMahon has proven to be pretty effective too.

2017-08-03T04:21:15+00:00

G Slacker

Guest


What's rubbish about it? Despite being asked in other forums, you can't produce a shred of evidence to back up your hatred of the player. Honestly what is your problem?

2017-08-03T02:40:09+00:00

Rebellion

Guest


Gee that worked wonders in the Bledisloe when Hooper was trialled as a light weight lineout option and we lost every throw Sorry to rain all over your parade CUW

2017-08-03T01:26:14+00:00

marto

Guest


Neil you have just been owned by WAXHEAD. bye bye

2017-08-03T01:02:50+00:00

Twiggy Forrest

Guest


what nepotism? Di Patston was completely qualified for her job. in fact the ARU had to openly apologise and acknowlege her contribution. she saved over $1 million for the ARU and was well liked by all the brumbies and reds players within that wallaby playing group. i dont understand how there is confusion about who is to blame. based on all the presented facts all we know is that Kurtley Beale sexually harassed and bullied an ARU staff member, which in any other work place is grounds for dismissal (Yet for some reason he wasnt).

2017-08-02T21:58:17+00:00

soapit

Guest


problem is that no matter what the overall tactics are there will be unplanned times when hooper has to do other work (as do all those other players). in your example the different players being out wide probably indicates that the original wide players have taken up the tight work and have freed them up. forwards should have this as base competency. as discussed perhaps its coaching or its the skillset dictating the rigidity of the gameplan

2017-08-02T21:53:53+00:00

soapit

Guest


i didnt see that but perhaps its time for him to ease up on being the encouraging type of leader and introduce a little captain grumpy into things. cant imagine people walking away from border too many times and getting away with it.

2017-08-02T12:43:00+00:00

In brief

Guest


Cheika's team is on the rise having improved dramatically from the nadir of the dull Deans days and the disaster wrought by the ego maniac Mckenzie.

2017-08-02T12:29:35+00:00

In brief

Guest


The fault lay with the ARU who should have sacked McKenzie for nepotism. As a former NSW legend and wallaby I have sympathy for Macca but he was given enough rope as they say and acted unwisely. The players were the victims of his grand act of hubris.

2017-08-02T12:22:16+00:00

Waxhead

Guest


hey Neil thanks for posting those Stats from Fox Sports. Proves you're doing some major misrepresentation of them. If we just look at open side flankers Hooper rates - 10th on turnovers won 7th on handling errors 23rd on offloads 1st on run metres & runs made 5th on tackles made 2nd in missed tackles 1st on ineffective tackles 5th on pilfers 2nd on forced ruck n maul penalties 7th on handling errors 10th on turnovers. Which proves my point and the others here saying Hooper is a very limited No 7. He excels in his running game and nothing else. A great running game is good to have but not the main role of a No 7. And he's got some real weaknesses in his error rate, offloading and defense. Great players don't have weaknesses. And that's why Hooper is so far just a good no 7 but not an outstanding one.

2017-08-02T11:26:19+00:00

cinque

Roar Rookie


"I would rather Pocock and possibly Gill over Hooper are my unconscious biases (I prefer my 7 a little tighter .." One man's unconscious bias is another's "naturalistic fallacy" wherein G E Moore examined the dichotomy between pleasant and good. Many roarers have long held and frequently stated preferences. Sometimes they seem to assuming the conclusion .... 1. I prefer Pocock 2. Pocock plays tighter 3. The best 7s play tight. Or 1. I prefer Cooper 2. Cooper has a better passing game 3. Passing is a stand-off's core duty, etc Just suggesting that neither they (nor me obviously) can be sure which is the cart, after so many electrons have been harmed.

2017-08-02T11:16:55+00:00

Neil

Guest


You are years out of date, Waxhead. Look at this years SR stats for 7's https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/super-rugby/stats/players Which of the players below topped the following super rugby stats, most possessions, most runs, most run metres, most line breaks, most passes, most turnovers won(combined Pilfers, Penalties forced) Tackle busts. Pick and Drives, Tackles. S Higginbotham Sam Cane Ardie Savea Scott Fardy, S Kolisi, Matt Todd, B Gibson, J Kriel M Hooper, Answer: Michael Hooper topped all these stats against these players,except for Pick and Drives and Tackle busts Ardie Savea was number 1 Hooper number 2

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