NRL to make small steps into Perth

As per my previous post this would give WA fans to see home and away league matches ( probably 10 matches). We can all see what PNG Hunter's are doing in QRL Intrust cup. They are probably too late for 2018 but 2019 would be OK and that is another 4 years till next broadcast deal which gives them a firm foothold and they could play curtainraisers to NRL matches. The landscape may be different in 5 years but if they establish that 2nd tier now it gives them more of a strong hold. Harking back to the wyong case they competed as a stand alone for 2 years and then went into agreement with roosters. Wyong are indepently wealthy and also own their own complex so WA could use that as a model.

If the WARL and all the posters that support the theory that they (we) need a team in the NRL let the the WARL do a wolfpack and put a team in the Intrust Cup and see how they perform. The NSW RL should invite them to put a team in. Every one says they have the finance to do it. That way they are being proactive and not waiting for NRL to make a decision. If you recall wyong entered as a stand alone club in NSW cup a few years ago and have made grand final once and look like being minor premiers this year. Doing something like this forces NRL into action.

Big Daddy The $100m for grassroots is my understanding over a 5 year period the extent of the next Tv contract ,and is additional to the $27m pa current expended Meaning I guess $47m pa. The salary cap figure now agreed on by the clubs is $9.4m yet to be ratified by the RLPA. Any notion of expansion would have zero chance of being included in the next 5 areas in anycase,hence the comment made by Greenberg expansion discussion will not be revised til 2020.Prior to the next TV deal. I agree wiht your last lines rugby league needs to be underpinned in its heartland and also in Victoria. Perth has the financial backing re sponsors but the most important ingredient missing is the $9.4,m plus 30% salary cap grant from head office, and that won't have a ghost of a chance of arriving prior to 2022.

It was going to be $10 plus 30 %. Read the article

130% isn't 13 million.... Nobody has ever mentioned the salary cap being 13 million.

According to Phil Gould's column on 26th may this year the salary cap promised was 130 % which was $13 million per club. The NRL are now saying $9.2 million which is approx $50 million difference. And the balance $3.8 million would be repaid in next broadcast deal (2023) So there will be no room for expansion of any sort. There will be no under 20's next year so lots of savings so where has the money gone . No wonder RLPA are a bit narky ATM. The $100 million mentioned by another poster for grassroots I believe is over a 10 year period. The only way Perth can compete is to cone through Intrust cup and then judge on performance. Setting up a first grade franchise would probably cost $20-30 million with concession. Rugby league cannot afford at moment as much as game needs to promoted there. Established areas should be next priority.

Beautifully put my friend. Clippers pathetically obvious agenda exposed again. Funny thing is nrl vic's growth has been pretty good overall despite the lack of money and commitment from the nrl. As for tassie. I give up. We tried. Nobody cared. Sharks roosters next saturday. Me and the missus are heading up for that one. Go sharks!

Yeah saw that Justin. So just to keep Clippy's blood boiling I'll throw in some of Eddie Everywhere's comments, in praise of Collingwood's next door neighbours. " Everyone in Melbourne barracks for the Storm. They're a warm friend not a competitor. They are very much part of the rich tapestry of sport in Melbourne and we'd be so much a lesser city without them on our sporting menu on weekends. I have a warmer regard for them than 17 other AFL clubs. Cam Smith is one of the greatest sportsmen Australia has produced." Eddie was asked what Collingwood could learn from the. "The professionalism to start with. The Storm have the balance right between doing things in the community and being really great representatives and ambassadors for the sport in a foreign town." Yep no one gives a tinker's cuss about the Storm,cause Clip told us so.It is therefore holy writ.As Eddie would say come on down Clip. The negative of course,grassroots has been treated poorly in Vic by the NRL admin, although nothing nearly as bad as the Apple isle.That's why I'm hoping they get their rear ends into gear and boost expenditure to the $100m figure.

Eddie maguire had all sorts of wonderful things to say about the storm in melbourne just recently crosscoder. But thats not good enough for clippy. He can only see the negative, as always.

Well blow me down. A post from clippy talking afl up and rugby league down. Whodda thought?

Ignoring of course the non contact versions for rl which others include, that league numbers for schools are not included.Contact numbers are down at the senior older level. Female participation is skyrocketing as it is in the UK. Since 2000,the NRL has paid ;lip service to grassroots,that's why they are pushing to spend $100m,well up on current expenditure. " Virtually no international presence LOL".Melbourne is having some games for the RLWC,the code has NZ and England and PNG ,and other nations involved. It either has an international presence or it does not.AFL does not that's why they are pushing this AFLX gizmo. Storm players are involved playing in tests against NZ.Ignored that point. Swan's players do not. Bringing in the hyped Swans again, the Storm have had nowhere near the time(Swans) 36years, the media hype or promotion.The Swans have had no salary cap scandal and loss of premierships .They've had in reality a dream run since 1995. The Storm have not had the privilege or a thank you or leg up from a Super AFL war. Again in typical Clip fashion comparing bananas with avocados.

You may find the AFL has more people playing it than the league/Rugby combined already - although nowhere near Football. Since 2000 AFL has remained about static, league decreased 27%, Rugby more, but Football has increased by over 60%. The trouble with the Force is that they were never in contention, people like to follow a winning side. However, as has been shown by the Storm, if you have virtually no international presence you don't have the variances that entails and you can stay at the top year after year, like the Swans, and you will get a following, albeit nowhere near the Swans scale. If they can do this, they may have a chance to develop a niche market like the Force, but will be a big expenditure.

I think 16 teams is an ideal number for the NRL that will provide quality over quantity. To address the national in NRL I would simply arrange for NRL teams to form partnerships with other cities, regions to play games at these locations. This option is an ideal way to expose the NRL to all of the country without the cost of setting up a new franchise. Extra games are being taken to the bush next year and to Perth given the Force's demise as a result of this thinking. Personally, I would rather watch fewer high quality games than more poor quality ones.

Perth is in the pipeline ,and should have been in place years ago, but no thanks to a conservative NRL leadership,we are still marking time awaiting a decision. Having no money in the Bank doesn't help, nor does a few clubs relying on NRL admin largesse to either stay afloat pr pay their players. The notion of isolation being a bugbear shouldn't hold up.In fact for rl fans and there are still decent numbers for a new club, thanks to continual east coast migration since the Red's demise.In fact fortnightly absence can make the heart go stronger, Else why the intention of NRL clubs (not the admin BTW) to stage NRL games there.They know there is a market there, when they had the last ordinary crowd this year it literally drowned the attendees.They have juniors who are playing in the Eastern states U20s. If the Storm in an AFL mad city with little rl tradition in the past and lesser numbers of juniors can make a go of it(despite the cynics such as FitzSimons),then sure as hell Perth (who actually once had a side in the main comp), can do likewise.

Absolutely disgrace; both the ARU and NRL; They are getting a kicking by the AFL!! The AFL IS JUST LAUGHING AT THEM. the AFL IN 20 years wil have more people playing it than League/union combined; because they have a vision and know how to follow it; How hard is it really to set up a team in Perth? Greenberg; here is the 101 on how to do it; Woods has no home; he goes to Perth Hayne has no home; he goes to Perth Ask each club to release one player to Perth; Give the clubs an incentive in the salary club to the extent on which they released that player Each club gives up one of there promising juniors; Get Toovey to coach the team The WA GOVT would back it; help with costs; I heard there is a billionaire that may want to invest in it; Greenberg; maybe you should call him!! I reckon anyone with half a brain could set this club up in a month; And presto; you have yourself a market!!! But NO!!! They will leave WA TO AFL!!! Who are laughing at the incompetence of both the NRL AND ARU.

It's very hard to drop a team into such an isolated city as Perth - with no opposition closer than a couple of time zones away on the other side of a continent. There's no local or neighbouring rival. The team will play at home every couple of weeks - but in between will become largely invisible and - when at home - will be barely more so. It's a tough ask. I'm not sure the NRL should rush into fill that void because I suspect the void created by the demise of the Force isn't quite big enough to demand filling. Is the 'vision' big enough?

Was gonna say near enough the same thing. Pretty convenient to forget how much NQ, the Warriors, Melbourne and even Brissy agree on expansion.

A perth nrl team is a no brainer. Unfortunately the nrl leadership has no vision. They are gutless.

The xenophobic, AFL-obsessed Perth media initially gave the Western Reds a cautious foot in the door, but off-field shenanigans by Geyer, O'Neill and co, an ordinary coach and roster and minimal success slammed the door shut. The only successful code transplant I've seen has been the Sydney Swans, with a star-studded squad and a high-profile coach, Barassi. To try league again in Perth would require something similar, and most top-level players and indeed a genuinely topline coach would be reluctant to move so far afield. The Reds coach was Peter Mulholland, who hasn't had a first-grade job before or since ( also Dean Lance towards the end), and the squad included no current stars : more like several players cashing up at the end of their careers. Honestly, unless it's a genuine high-dollar, high-profile invasion you would probably do more harm than good : better off sticking with a couple of games a season. The NRL are asleep at the wheel anyway, with the anticipated closure of the Force being widely broadcast all season they should have been primed to make a big step and announcement of their intentions the very next day. Instead there's eventually been a vague expression of possible intent. The NRL gave false hope of a WA team a couple of years back, and a bunch of enthusiastic WARL fans quickly formulated a concept squad and a name but the idea went cold just as quickly, and I can't see it ever improving unless any new side is jammed with stars and has immediate success.

Wellington? Sort the Warriors out first.