Thirteen talking points from NRL Round 26

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The regular season is over, the top eight is settled and those glorious four weeks of finals action are upon us. Before we get to that though, there is plenty to talk about from Round 26, so here are my NRL talking points from the final round.

Dissecting the Dragons’ mess of a season
Well, it’s pretty obvious where I was going to be starting this week. The Dragons are out of the finals after a shocking display against the Bulldogs.

It was unacceptable that a professional side can turn up with everything to play for and produce a performance like they were glued to the bottom of the table – for reference, that was the Knights who fought hard against Cronulla.

Unfortunately, the game summed up the second half of the Dragons season. They could have just as easily been finished off last week, but managed to scamper home against the Panthers to keep it alive.

Then, whatever that was today.

I don’t like to ping the blame on the board or the coach, but here we go. Since Paul McGregor was re-signed as coach, this is a team who have looked directionless. Gareth Widdop is the only one who has done anything of note, and their season fell away quicker than crowds for the 6pm game on a Friday.

The Dragons’ season, frankly, has been a mess. It started with no hopes from anyone, then moved to promising, before they sat top of the table. The fall from grace was swift and dramatic.

It’ll be a different looking team in 2018, but it’s too far away to think about that.

Right now, there is some soul-searching to do for a group of players who looked like they didn’t really care on a Sunday afternoon with everything to play for at Homebush.

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Consistency, please Mr Archer – the finals don’t deserve to be destroyed
It’s a word talked about a lot in rugby league circles. It’s talked about here on The Roar, it’s talked about in other parts of the media, and it’s talked about by players and coaches alike.

All we want is consistency in decisions. All we want is for something that is called one week to be called the next, and not changed based on who is officiating, or who is sitting behind the controls in the bunker.

While it would be nice to rule on every offside, held in a tackle, hand on the ball and forward pass correctly, human error happens. It’s impossible to have that sort of consistency at this stage.

However, apart from the fact it was the Storm again and I don’t know if there’s ever been a penalty try and an eight-point one in the same game, how was Josh Addo-Carr now awarded a penalty try in the corner?

He was quite clearly pushed way over the sideline, had to run around the corner post and still almost got back into score. In fact, he won the race to the ball but just wasn’t able to take a leap from inside the field of play.

Suliasi Vunivalu has been awarded two penalty tries this season, and neither of them were as convincing as the case to give Addo-Carr one on Saturday evening.

For Joseph Leilua to not even be so much as sent to the sin bin for a professional foul defies belief.

The NRL have to work out their interpretations of rules ahead of the finals. It’s a blight on the game, and it’s not the first time it’s been so. Get it right, because you don’t want the NRL grand final to be decided on a ‘maybe’ penalty try. It’s happened once before, and believe me, it’s not fun.

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The Cowboys are going to be up against it, but they fight hard and could just cause an upset
Take nothing away from North Queensland, they deserve to make the finals. They haven’t played like a top eight team to be fair, but they have fought hard over the last few weeks. Winning that game from behind against the Tigers has saved their bacon and now they get a chance with no pressure on to try and upset the odds.

Next week, North Queensland, without their two biggest superstars will take on Cronulla. More on Cronulla shortly, but the Cowboys have fought and fought this year, and if Michael Morgan and Jason Taumalolo can lead from the front, there is no reason they can’t travel to Sydney and beat the under pressure Sharks.

They will need everything to go right for them, but let’s not write off the eighth-placed team just yet.

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Is this the most lacklustre build-up to finals action in recent memory?
I don’t want to knock the build-up to the finals, but it really feels to be lacking something. Despite the jockeying for position at the bottom of the eight, there were only nine teams in contention coming into the final round.

That in itself feels a lot lower than normal. For weeks, we have been down to ten teams, and the gap between the top nine (ten if you include Canberra after a late season push) and everyone else is phenomenally large.

There are a lot of genuinely bad teams in this year’s competition. It’s not the first time this has come up, but the finals have snuck up, and now they are here, it seems we have been robbed of a lot of regular season excitement.

There was no battle for the minor premiership, barely a battle for the top four and less crucial games than normal for the top eight during the last month of action.

Even if we did get two huge final round games, it still feels like the back-end of the season has missed something.

I hope the finals will live up to something far greater, but with so many bad teams and results which feel like they are decided before games start, much of the intrigue has been suspended.

As much as you want the finals to be better though…

Are the 2017 version of Melbourne the best one yet?
Another week, another glowing praise of the Storm. It feels I’ve spent half my time wrapping them this year. I did it last week, I probably did it the week before that and the week before that.

Call me a broken record all you want, but how can you not? They are too damn good. Awarded the minor premiership on Saturday night after another heavy win over the Raiders, this may be the best Storm side ever assembled.

And that’s no word of a lie. They have won 20 of 24 games, and that’s without even looking at their best. Cooper Cronk can still go up a gear or two, and Cameron Smith has been strong as always, but you feel he could provide extra come the finals.

Billy Slater has been the key difference maker for Melbourne this year. He missed last year, and it showed in September. This year, the experience of Slater, especially setting the line defensively will make all the difference during the finals run.

This is the best Storm team ever assembled – hell, they are better because of their youngsters and extreme depth than the side who were wiped out during the salary cap scandal.

The grand final feels like a foregone conclusion.

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The Eels must get their defence back to standard for the finals
I can already feel Eels’ fans heating up in the comments, so just hear me out. Credit where credit is due, the Eels defence was good. So good, it sparked their run which has landed them a top four spot at the end of the season.

Before any criticism of their last couple of weeks can be put down, it has to be mentioned that the Eels conceded just 62 points in six games leading up to their Round 23 shock loss at the hands of Newcastle.

That night, their attitude was poor as they let in 29 points. They restricted the Titans to eight the following weeks, but then, despite scoring 52 themselves let in 34 against the Broncos.

The Rabbitohs might have only scored 16 points against them on the weekend, but even that felt too many. Parramatta never dominated the game, and South Sydney were probably unlucky not to run up more tries – put it this way, a better team would have ran riot over the blue and gold’s defensive structure.

Don’t get me wrong, I like what the Eels have done to get to this point, but if they are going to go on with it against the top teams, then defence over anything else is key.

It won’t matter how well Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman are playing, or how many times Semi Radradra and Michael Jennings shred opposition defences if they can’t defend well themselves.

Their Week 1 finals Test will be a huge battle against the Storm, and if they can restrict them to 18 points or less, you’ll know they are somewhat back on track.

Structure and scramble, as well as warding off long periods of pressure will be crucial for Parramatta, and despite not being must-win, it feels like momentum will go down the toilet if they let in a score.

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Where on Earth has that been for Manly?
If you tuned into a Manly game for the first time on Saturday, you’d be mistaken for thinking they were at the top of the ladder.

From the get-go, they were switched on. Their first defensive set was one of the best of the season as the Panthers didn’t clear the red-zone, and from there the pressure built.

Penrith barely had the ball in Manly’s half of the field during the first 20 minutes, and for Manly fans, it was a case of asking ‘what happened the last few weeks?’

Sure, their season felt really on the line on Saturday – more so than the previous few weeks – but those last few weeks, they had played fatigued and busted. It didn’t look like they had it in them to turn it around.

How wrong we all were, as they handed Penrith a shellacking. Whether they can keep that up against the same opposition next week is anyone’s guess, but with form like that, there’s no reason why they couldn’t make the grand final from outside the top four. After all, they were in the top four themselves not so long ago.

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Will we see a new Cronulla in the finals?
It’s no secret the Sharks have spent 2017 winning ugly. They haven’t played well, yet have finished in fifth spot.

There was no better example of that than their up and down performance on Sunday against the Knights. They pinched a win against the wooden spooners, but after being up 18-0 it was a chance for them to make a statement.

Instead, they stumbled, fumbled and bumbled their way to an unconvincing 26-18 victory over the wooden spooners.

Paul Gallen was inspirational, making 270 metres, but they must step it up a gear come the finals. We have been waiting for them to do it all season, and it just hasn’t happened.

Now, with everything on the line, will the Sharks be able to turn their form around and string four do-or-die games together to go back-to-back?

The finals are a funny beast. On evidence, you’d say no, but knowing the players they have – who really knows.

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Let’s not kid ourselves, the Roosters won’t be there on October 1
The Roosters attitude was very, very poor against the Titans on Saturday afternoon. A reasonable crowd, the final game of the season, and they only just escaped with a win thanks to some magic at the back-end.

But, for the Roosters to get into that position shows there is a major problem. While the Storm were busy making another statement ahead of the finals by thumping the listless Raiders, the Roosters were struggling to put points on against a club who have conceded more than 120 in the last month.

The Roosters can say they didn’t turn up all they want, or claim they will be stronger next week, but for a second-placed team they leave a lot to be desired.

They lack the killer instinct, and it’s been shown on more than a few occasions this year. It’d be a huge shock to see them there on October 1.

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The Knights might have a spoon, but 2018 promises plenty
Picture this. Down 18-0, wooden spoon wrapped up against a side who belted you 62-0 on the same ground last season. Most teams would have rolled over, gone to sleep and conceded a similar scoreline – but not the Knights.

This is a youthful side who have worked so hard for each other and coach Nathan Brown week in and week out this season. It’s resulted in three victories, which, frankly is two more than a lot of people thought they might have ended up with at the start of the season.

Of course, it’s not a great season by any standards, but to have the will, determination and resolve to play out 80 minutes in Round 26 is a testament to the culture being built at the club.

It’s a long rebuilding process, but with plenty of talent walking through the doors next season, there are promising signs ahead for rugby league’s most dedicated fan group.

Whether they can do enough to crack the top eight in 2018 depends on a number of factors, but they will be there and about. This should be the last wooden spoon Newcastle will have to endure for some time to come.

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The real Brian Kelly stood up on Saturday
Sea Eagles centre Brian Kelly is a superstar in the making. In his rookie season, he started strongly, getting people talking, then faded through the middle. He was dropped, then re-called by coach Trent Barrett, and his performance against the Panthers on Saturday may have been his best yet.

He was superb. Every time he touched the ball, Kelly looked dangerous. He was solid in defence, made good decisions and played beyond his years in experience.

While it must be noted he was playing in a side who were absolutely steam-rolling their opponents, he scored the opening try with a great run and finished the night with 182 metres from 17 runs with three line-breaks and a couple of try assists.

Watch out for Kelly. He has been touted as a future representative centre and did nothing to hurt his chances on Saturday.

BJ Leilua and Jordan Rapana will be an intriguing storyline to follow in 2018
Even the most optimistic Raiders’ fan would say their explosive right-side combination has had problems being consistently dangerous in 2017.

They set tongues wagging in 2016 and were expected to be a major part of the reason the Raiders were going to push on as premiership contenders in 2017. Instead, they have struggled to recapture that form.

Whether that’s through the fault of their halves, their forwards or themselves, it doesn’t really matter. What does matter for the green machine is that they turn up in 2018 and get back to their best as an explosive combination.

The problem, as seen on Saturday is that there are times they have a tendency to get more involved in other elements of the game – like sledging. Curtis Scott and Josh Addo-Carr did a pretty solid job dealing with it actually.

Anyway, they must return to their best in 2018. Whether that’s being fired up or playing good footy without theatrics, it must happen, or the Raiders are likely to be battling for the top eight again.

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Victory Radley on the Roosters’ bench is a waste of a position
A short one to finish this week, but an important point nonetheless. There is no question Radley has plenty of talent and is gaining invaluable talent by being included in first grade.

He impressed filling in for Jake Friend earlier in the season. But with the heir to Cameron Smith’s Queensland throne back on the field and Connor Watson also coming from the bench, the need for Radley to play is minimal at best.

Friend is a consistent 80-minute player and Radley played a grand total of zero minutes on the weekend. It’s a waste of a spot for the Roosters, and coming up against the top sides, they need to use the extra forward.

Roarers, what did you make of Round 26? How are the finals going to play out? Drop a comment below and let us know.

The Crowd Says:

2017-09-07T01:00:29+00:00

Chris Love

Roar Guru


Here's a bold prediction. Parramatta to come out on Saturday and Ambush Melbourne. On the back of a forward performance that Monsters The storm. I think Brad Arther will have given them a bollocking over their performance defensively in the last month and they'll be right up in the faces of the Storm. After his comments I'm curious to see how the ruck is policed escpecialy with Cameron Smith and co chirping at the refs. I'm just waiting for a few ruck penalties (intentional) to go against Melbourne on their line, Smith to swagger out of the line and have a 5 minute conversation with the refs while his team sucks in the oxygen, waltz back into the defensive line and watch the whistle get put away. Vainivalu v Radradra on the back of two teams with halves that both have excellent kicking games could be very tasty viewing indeed. Melbourne have been sailing and may get a reality check against Parramatta. Kenny Edwards to have at least 3 penalties awarded against him this week.

2017-09-05T02:27:18+00:00

david wood

Guest


like the same problem : exit the high penalty counts and forward passes that made the game ugly for the spectators clean and exciting final are the best yet to come.

2017-09-05T00:27:40+00:00

Joe

Roar Rookie


Very true Matt. I had said at the beginning of the year Parra's hopes lie with Semi. When they played at AAMI and won earlier in the season, Radradra was unstoppable. I've never seen Suli so comprehensively outplayed by an opposing winger. Radradra's performances in the last two weeks tells me he is back to his rampaging best and with the skills that Norman has means he will be a big danger as he takes full advantage of overlaps or space out wide. Its going to be a lot closer than people think and the way they've been given no chance will mean they will come out firing. Definitely one of the possible upsets.

2017-09-04T12:40:30+00:00

Matt

Guest


You may be right there, but let's not forget the Storm don't exactly have the most rock solid home final record with 10 wins and 7 losses. Last year they won at home twice, so a year back it time, it was as bad as 8 and 7.

2017-09-04T11:20:59+00:00

Peter Phelps

Guest


The Storm will be up for this and make no mistake. They want to mark Cam Smith's milestone with a win as well as get a weeks rest. The Eels can take nothing from their win against a severely depleted storm last time out. The way they have been playing, it could be a massacre.

2017-09-04T11:16:02+00:00

Matt

Guest


What I'm looking forward to with much interest over the weekend is whether the Storm have the answer to stop a rampaging Radradra, something that no other team has been humanly able to do. It's just such a huge game this 2009 GF replay of sorts. Massive. A dozen years this club has waited for a chance to payback. Who's to say emotion won't have them moving mountains?

2017-09-04T08:10:08+00:00

Wild Eagle

Guest


The expectation is massive on the Storm and anything less will be a huge disappointment to them. How this plays out will be fascinating. Two teams with enough experience and no pressure are the Rooters and the Sharks. The Eagles at their best and low on mistakes have really troubled some top teams this year and I reject the conventional wisdom that you need to make the top 4 to win the thing. Obviously it is a great advantage but the top 8 hasn't been around long enough to make such a declaration in my opinion.

2017-09-04T06:13:24+00:00

Bonza

Guest


Couldn't agree more, just posted on this. All teams will now lift and Storm have the burden of expectation. Ambush in the spirit of 2001 Knights.

2017-09-04T06:09:33+00:00

Peter Phelps

Guest


They have won 20 of 24 games, And half of those losses were due to Origin stuffed up rounds where nearly half the Storm's 1st team were out on rep duty.

2017-09-04T06:07:57+00:00

Bonza

Guest


I can smell a GF Storm ambush...shades of 2001 Eels. Mass expectation brings mass pressure. Finals are a new season.

2017-09-04T04:17:48+00:00

Agent11

Guest


again? 3 of the last 4 premiers have been sydney clubs

2017-09-04T04:15:14+00:00

Agent11

Guest


The Raiders have been extremely disappointing, especially considering they have had a pretty good year with regards to injuries. I fear Stuart is developing a siege mentality down there where the NRL and the media are all against him and his club.

2017-09-04T03:42:27+00:00

Nick Ferris

Guest


Don't worry, the Dagon fans have new forgiven Ainscough for that try, along with Bill Harrigan and Anthony Mundine for dropping the ball over the line earlier.

2017-09-04T03:20:28+00:00

Wild Eagle

Guest


I agree about the Raiders team culture. They are too confident in their own ability , talent and size and their attitude surely must come down to the coach. Their poor attitude was fully exposed by the Eagles early in the season and they didn't wake up. The second row they got from the Knights Joseph Tapana is a great talent but has developed the same attitude of big Joey which is bully boy dumb

2017-09-04T02:46:01+00:00

jimmmie

Guest


I have never seen anyone at fullback who comes close to Slater. He has revolutionised fullback play.

2017-09-04T01:53:17+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


So the Broncos are not worth a mention Scott? Your Saints were lucky to be anywhere near the finals in the first place and the Raiders were also rans. Manly v Panthers was the only other top 8 match up this weekend and you carry on about Kelly without a mention of Jurbo. You bag the 2nd best team and don't even mention No. 3. Your Monday wrap is usually quite good but this week seems to be aimed at keeping the Sydneysiders interested because, come October, the Title will again be heading interstate.

2017-09-04T01:52:27+00:00

Adam

Roar Guru


Leilua and Rapana always look to me about 2 seconds away from a complete brain snap. They are both immensely talented but have such bad attitudes. But sadly it is a common issue with the Raiders I think. I don't care what Tim Gore thinks they have a terrible team culture that blames everyone but themselves. On penalty tries, I think too much of the issue lies around the notion of an act preventing what would have been a certain try. This allows the refs/bunker to talk themselves out of awarding them more often. The burden of proof is just to high. Further to the Addo-Carr no try decision, the bin needs to be used so much more. It was blatant illegal play that prevented a likely try scoring opportunity. But I think the horse has bolted this year - bring back the bin 2018.

2017-09-04T00:42:01+00:00

Oingo Boingo

Guest


Scotty , I haven't been convinced about the Roosters all year , but they are in 2nd place . They have this ability to do enough to win and realistically were beaten by the Refs in Melbourne. The other thing I see is they tend to play to the team in front of them , and play to that standard , and then do what is needed to win . Will they be there on the 1st ? Who knows , but they're in with as good a chance as anyone.

2017-09-04T00:31:18+00:00

Albo

Guest


Spot on Sam ! Also a Panthers fan, I have been most disappointed with their progression this year. I have been waiting all season for them to finally click into a top gear, but it has never come. Sure they have had the Moylan & Edwards losses in recent weeks, but there still should have been more improvement of other players. They have had an easy draw and were given every opportunity of making the top 8. There are likely some off field issues that may be impacting on the performance with Cartwright, Martin & now Moylan issues that can't have helped team morale, but Gould & Griffin should have sorted these things out , along with development of the rest of team. They have too many weak links in the team make up. They have two good metre eating wingers but both have for years had massive limitations in their games. Mansour is clueless under the high ball and DWZ is a turnover risk with every hit up he makes. Blake has always had handling issues and his poor defence reading was well exposed against Manly this week. Peachy is rarely passes the ball. Cartwright hasn't made an offload all season ( obviously under instructions), Fisher-Harris isn't given enough game time so hasn't progressed at all this year. Tamou has taken most of the year to find form. Merrin has been mostly inconsistent. The two edge forwards Yeo & Harawira- Naera have been solid without dominating anyone. Moylan was travelling OK till the hammy injury which obviously has not been treated properly with two failed early comebacks ( who's to blame here ?). Wallace has been solid in defence , but the only real positive development that has taken place in this team this season has been that of Cleary & Regan Campbell-Gillard ( and Dylan Edwards before injury). The team management has a lot to answer for here and Griffin & Gould should be seriously questioned about their strategies and player development this season .

2017-09-03T23:43:55+00:00

Mondo

Guest


Tackling someone around the neck after they've caught the ball over the line would have to be a textbook penalty try. Eighteen years later, I'm still curious why the Dragons didn't dump Jamie Ainscough for that brain fart...

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