It is time for Shane Flanagan and Trent Barrett to grow up

If Manly lost to Newcastle ( which is a certain thing according to you based on one wrong call) Manly finish the rounds in 7th place. They do make the finals. If the refs don't miss a forward pass against the Tigers in the last play of the game we are back to 6th. The speed of the decision gives me confidence in the Walker no try? Yes It did because anything else like that was given as a try all year. Maybe the speed of the decision in Uates try should give you even more confidence. He was that confident that he didn't go to the bunker. If he did go to the bunker they might see that the defender cleverly spears his arm in and dislodges the ball. He would need to take his time however and see what others have missed. Have an unbiased look MR X and try to look for the truth and not just to win a debate.

I haven't heard Greenburg tell Bellamy and co to grow up when they continue to claim that they have won three titles. He might word it differently to that but it is childish to deny that they were rightfully stripped of two titles. For all the '' I haven't heard Flanagan list all his own teams mistakes or acknowledge the other team '' crew , have you ever heard Bellamy express any sympathy for the teams who were robbed of a GF win by his clubs antics? Keep an eye on Bellamy if he gets robbed of the title this year by the Refs.

I am reliably informed by Mr X at 6.54 below that one wrong call cost Newcastle a win against the Eagles this year. That is where people like him and you have no credibility. It happens all the time in these posts. They say "referees don't cost teams a win" and the same person then tells you about a time when it does happen. If Uates try wasn't given then Manly wouldn't be in the finals anyway , so says MR X. You can't have it both ways . The proof is in these posts that people change their story around 180 degrees to try to win a debate. Hand of god costs the Cowboys a win I am told over and over again by people who then claim that Bunker decisions don't ever cost Manly a win. It is beyond hilarious. Take up the debate with MR X and remind him how the Knights were robbed by one decision for sure in his ''opinion''

What is mind boggling is that these two coaches are being told to grow up! Mr Barrett & Mr Flanagan should take this stuff in their stride but what we haven't seen by the NRL CEO, is a chastisement of Craig Bellamy & his coaching antics & treatment of players when things don't go his way on the field. Don't get me wrong, he's the best in the business, but it doesn't give him any right to put his emotions on display - especially in front of the cameras. In the normal workplace, we would call this harassment. Not only is it telling workplace employers/managers - that it's fine to do what governments have been trying to stamp out for 30yrs - but telling a young generation that it's ok to use verbal violence for everyone to see. Why is Mr Bellamy any different ? Coaches should not only be learning how to deal with referee frustration but working those penalties to their advantage for the future. Other coaches do adapt, however, but Mr Greenberg should be working towards getting his referees to be consistent in their judgements & the bunker indisputable. In any case, let the referee's ref & put up with any decision handed out. If the coaches can't handle a bit of adversity, then get out of the kitchen & let someone else take over.

How and why do refs decide games? Back your comments up. I take it you are not saying refs simply make mistakes. This is trite. You appear to pointing to nefarious motives. Out with it, chapter and verse.

Good call

Ref bashing is a serious issue and needs to be frowned upon. What Flanagan did was disgraceful and disrespectful to not only the officials but the Cowboys players and fans. It was a pathetic attempt to shift the blame away from his teams inept performance in my opinion. Imagine if Cameron Smith had of stood up after the GF last year and said "if the ref doesn't give Sharks a BS penalty then Fafita doesn't score or if Ref had of penalised blatant high shot on the final play we could of won in extra time." I have zero time for drug cheats. Even less time for grubs that don't have the decency to acknowledge the opponent and then carry on with absolute crap about being robbed. Making ridiculous statements like Maloney shouldn't have been penalised because Coote was off side first. Coote was 5m behind the ball carrier. WTF drugs are you on at the press conference would be my question. After the Dank, peptide saga Flanagan should have been sent packing out of the game. He obviously believes he's bigger than the game. The AFL would be laughing at this garbage.

Flanagan has been on a bludge all season, taking his pay and just not putting out the goods. How pathetic of this cowardly person to then blame the referee for his inept management throughout the season. He lacks spine.

Look, mate, I don't know what your issue is or why you're still so bitter over the result, but maybe you need to have a think about this "growing up" suggestion yourself. "An ex-ref says two of the three calls were incorrect". Funny how the ref's opinion is so infallible when it supports you. MG and Matty Johns disagree. Player > ref, isn't that the gist of the situation? Biased? Mate, I would've preferred Manly to win, they'd be far less of a problem for us next week than Penrith will be. But whatever you say. There are issues that need to be addressed. This isn't one of them.

I agree (not just because I'm a Broncs fan). Many of us have believed the whole time that golden point isn't the answer, nice to finally get some good proper discussion around it.

Two good teams play with equal ability and one gets a few dud calls. If you don't understand that one of them is hard done by then you don't have a grip on reality.

At times refs do clearly do decide games and only a fool would argue otherwise.

What will intrigue the fan, and players alike is the strategy used. Not to say the 2015 Grand Final wasn't super, but imagine playing out the whole 10 minutes of extra time? Time for Hunt to redeem himself perhaps? Broncos get it back off a short kick off and then what? I don't follow either team, but would definitely have been fun. I think Bennett for one, would agree it's fairer than first to score anything.

Mathew Pierce you are absolutely wrong. Walkers try is 100% a try and ex ref says two out of the three calls were incorrect.. You are so biased that anything you say after this gross denial is never going to be taken seriously. There is an issue which needs to be addressed whether you can see it or not

Problem with the Gallen case is that he was attempting to score a try, of course there were going to be hands and arms around. He then attempted to milk a penalty by dropping it as the Cowboys players were getting out of the tackle. I agree those are called inconsistently but you can hardly accuse the NRL of match-fixing to this extent. Besides, like so many others, you're ignoring that both of Cronulla's tries came off of similarly dubious calls. Peachey try has been confirmed as correct by the top-down angle - there's no argument to make there. The conspiracy theories are really quite boring.

Yep. The other issue is that you can potentially play out the whole 10 minutes without scoring, so it's not even a blanket fix to the "problem". Which is why I think extra time should only be for games where there needs to be a winner.