Take a bow, Tonga, but England are deserved winners

By ScottWoodward.me / Roar Guru

Tony ‘the Badger’ Hargraves is the best sports trader I have ever known. He never participates in any sport that involves his beloved England, declaring that “emotion will always impact your judgement”.

We witnessed that emotion overflow after England had just defeated Tonga 20-18 in a memorable match.

The Badger would have looked on proudly from his Yorkshire trading office and surely must have been tempted to trade against England at $1.01 when they led Tonga 20 to nil with only eight minutes to go.

That means for every $100 invested against England he would lose only $1 if they won – in other words Tonga had one chance in a hundred to win. His figures suggest this is value, and he has won a fortune doing just this on horse racing, football and cricket around the world.

To put this in layman’s terms, the global marketplace considered England a 99 per cent chance of winning with only eight minutes left on the clock. The result was a given, but someone forgot to tell the brave Tongans.

Impressive young Bronco Tevita Pangai Junior barged over for a soft try in the 73rd minute, then giant hooker Siliva Havili, also eligible for the Kiwis, scored in the 77th minute before the brilliant Tui Lolohea scored in the 78th minute to make the score 20-18.

(NRL Photos/Grant Trouville)

With seconds to go England’s champion winger Jermaine McGillvary took an intercept pass from Tongan fullback Will Hopoate and looked set to score before a one-on-one strip by Pangai Junior. The ball was regathered by Fifita, who was just in front of Pangai Junior, who stripped the ball – confirmed by digital measurement – and should have rendered a penalty to England, which would have finished the game right there.

That small fact has been overshadowed by ’emotion’ and Andrew Fifita’s ‘no try’, Fifita claiming he was stripped and played on to score, catapulting Tonga into a historic World Cup final against Australia.

Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story!

Social media was rife straight after the game claiming bias that the Tongans were robbed, underlining the Badger’s edict that “emotion will always impact your judgement”.

England were brilliantly prepared by living legend Wayne Bennett, and despite the heart attack finish, they can take plenty out of their victory.

Pundits who consider that England were lucky have had too much kava. We have already established that England should have received a penalty with seconds to go after the McGillvary strip, and had the game gone to the video ref, he would have ruled accordingly – and had he not, then he certainly did not have enough evidence to overrule the on-field decision.

England are winners either way. The Daily Telegraph‘s Michael Carayannis got it right when interviewed by Jimmy Smith on the Weekend Big Sports Breakfast, saying, “It was a loose carry (by Fifita) every day of the week”.

(NRL Photos/Dave Acree)

This was an awesome performance by Tonga, who boast a world-class forward pack and bench to match. They were relentless with ongoing powerful hits.

Jason Taumalolo may retire as the game’s greatest ever forward, and not even with Andrew Fifita alongside him could they create points against a well-drilled England.

Watching the game it was inconceivable that England had posted 20 points after 68 minutes, and after 72 minutes Tonga was still scoreless. This is a massive tribute to the England defence and their game plan, which was all about set completions. They were near faultless until somehow Taumalolo found another gear and gave Tonga a ‘life’.

When Jason Batemen went in for England’s third try at the 67-minute mark his teammates clearly started to think about playing Australia in the final at Suncorp next Saturday. The aggression had dropped off. The line speed was not as pronounced, and this is all it took for a photo finish.

Three tries in five minutes by Tonga would have disappointed Bennett, but he knows deep down, that his team did enough for most of the game to be competitive in the final against the unstoppable Kangaroos.

It is going to be an emotionally charged world cup final between the two best nations.

Wonder what the Badger thinks?

The Crowd Says:

2017-11-28T12:44:58+00:00

William Dalton Davis

Roar Rookie


That's right Terry. Bring race into it. Damn the white man and his evil sports opinions!

2017-11-28T11:09:44+00:00

Greg Ambrose

Guest


Archer said the ruling was correct because he was attempting a tackle and not trying to strip the ball. If that's Whitehead not trying to strip the ball what would it look like if he was trying to strip the ball? Yes exactly the same , it was a perfectly executed strip.

2017-11-28T10:50:18+00:00

Sleiman Azizi

Roar Guru


I'm not white.

2017-11-28T09:31:10+00:00

Lovey

Guest


Maybe, but irrelevant to this decision. TheHunter is right, the ball is reefed toward the Englishman’s line, yet the verdict is knock-on against Tonga. When the impetus was in the other direction. Where in the laws is knock-on so defined? Or “loose carry”, in this circumstance? The laws may need rethinking.

2017-11-28T08:20:51+00:00

Birdy

Guest


I do agree Scott but it was exciting. Even a movie script with that ending would not be believed. What a match what a great role Tonga played in the cup.

2017-11-28T07:36:21+00:00

Terry Tavita

Guest


hmmm..nothing wrong with it..just amusing myself with the whiteman bonding posts and support networking on this forum..

2017-11-28T07:12:39+00:00

not so super

Guest


and what is wrong with that?

2017-11-28T07:11:54+00:00

not so super

Guest


why would it be humiliating when Tonga has more NRL players than England?

2017-11-28T07:02:09+00:00

souvalis

Guest


If Tonga need an internal review on that game than England who had 20 put on them in 8 mins. and saved from a similar humiliation that the Kiwis endured,by one players ingenuity,need one just as badly... The Tongans in 2 out of three tries were outflanked thru poor numbering up..but the English were busted thru a soft center..it wasn’t line speed,Scott,they were being run over the top of....40 missed tackles..Brown,Widdop and Gale were all speed humped on the way to tries,and were bested on every single attacking stat.. The only area where they fell down by comparison was in conceding one penalty more than the English and 3 errors(including the final one of the match)...the momentum swing was far too much for Benny’s side and the only thing that saved them and his ‘plan’was time running out...Benny’s ‘plan’ didn’t beat them,they beat themselves.

AUTHOR

2017-11-28T06:55:03+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Johhno What about if England beat the Kangas?

AUTHOR

2017-11-28T06:53:47+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Blag Give credit when due, he is the modern day Bill Harrigan.

AUTHOR

2017-11-28T06:52:46+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


theHunter, England should have had a penalty before that.

AUTHOR

2017-11-28T06:52:03+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Steve Zemek‏Verified account @stevezemek Rugby league has a whingeing problem, not a refereeing problem. Stop it. It was the right call.

2017-11-28T06:29:12+00:00

Johhno

Guest


I've never heard a more loud crowd in any footy code than that last 5 minutes of the England vs Tongs semi, that was so loud off the charts, a cauldorn atmosphere in the extreme..

2017-11-28T05:11:30+00:00

Terry Tavita

Guest


i don't think many tongans come here or bother to respond to articles..theroar, from what i have noticed, is mainly a haunt for middle-aged to old white australian, pommie and nz men..

2017-11-28T05:01:03+00:00

Blagblah

Guest


This article is going to provoke another march down queen street

AUTHOR

2017-11-28T04:59:54+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Albo, Agree mate, the rule needs to be addressed for interpretation. The offside by Fifita when he picked up McGilvary's strip was line ball and was missed in the run, but would have been picked up had we gone upstairs. I have to say that Cecchin and his assistants picked up so many tiny things that I missed. They are so good and deserve to get the Final.

2017-11-28T04:57:15+00:00

theHunter

Guest


The strip rule should be reviewed. The contact on the ball dislodged the ball, the ball was hit by the English player into Fifita himself so the No Try ruling is correct but because it was a one-on-one strip it should have been a knock-on by England. A scrum to the Tongans would have been the decision following the no try. The head-on one-on-one strip is different as it is raked toward the defenders own line thus if it dislodges during this action it can be knock on against the attacking side but in situations such as this, the knock on is definitely against the defender here because he dislodged the ball back into the attacking player himself. He intentionally did it to save a try. A failed attempt strip and a dislodged ball should have the ref to assess the positions of the players when it happened, if it had intent and the number of players involved. I agree it wasn't a try but Tonga should have had a scrum feed following that.

2017-11-28T04:12:06+00:00

Albo

Guest


It was always going to be a subjective call by one referee on the field or the other in the box. Cecchin made the call that is the current default " poor ball security" call that has become the general status option with these sorts of incidents nowadays. But I have seen this year, many last ditch attempted strips by defenders beaten in the tackle close to their try line. The Whitehead effort was just such an instance. I have no doubt he attempted to dislodge the ball and the ball was his first point of contact as he was well beaten to make a full tackle. He saved the match for his team and topped off a good all round game for himself. But the " strip / lose carry" rule is a dog of a rule that needs addressing to take away subjectivity of decision in almost every ruling.

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2017-11-28T03:15:32+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Sleiman, Just like with Tonga, went Sam Burgess went so did England's focus. They have 6 potential captains but make no mistake big Sam is their leader.

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