Venues announced for 2020 T20 World Cup in Australia

Canberra didn't pitch for any of the mens matches as they thought they'd only get either the group stage matches or matches not involving australia. in the 2nd round how is each ground going to get 6 matches when its a super 12? there is only going to be 15 matches per group.

Just on Hobart from a local - the local Mercury headline was 'Twenty20 World Cup cricket coup with Blundstone Arena to host eight matches'. I've only just learnt that 6 of those matches will involve the lower teams and am disappointed but I don't think there's any expectation for us getting the big games here. Our capacity is only 15,000 in a little boutique stadium here so it seems like pretty logical scheduling for mine.

Women’s sport should be funded by a tiny proportion of the earnings from the men’s game – earnings that pour in from female fans I might add. Just because women have historically been treated like second class citizens economically and socially does not mean this will continue. I am all in favour of the survival and relevance of football now into the future, and a women’s code will help guarantee that. Again, I don’t watch women’s sport – but I also don’t deny the right for it to exist and be played at the highest level by women. Please do keep complaining though, it’s hilarious to watch you keep shedding tears that women get a fair go in this country.

Beautifully put thread Anon. The answer to your question of who watches is friends and family. There en lies the big problem with the W-League, WBBL, AWFL etc - no-one actually wants to watch them. Even the SJW's who espouse it obviously don't want it, because the TV ratings are terrible and there's no-one at the games. Contrary to what Paul and his ilk say, footy, cricket and soccer don't need special women's leagues to survive. They've been doing for long enough for it to be a reasonable assumption that they will continue doing it. This is putting aside the fact that women like to watch men's sports a lot more than they like to watch women's sports.

Yep was mentioned in the Canberra Times. As for Hobart we don't know how many games the TCA and/or Tas. Government put in a bid for.

Perth's capacity for Cricket is 55,000 due to the seats behind both sightscreens unable to be used. For AFL the capacity is 60,000. 65,000 for Soccer and Rugby.

Absolutely bizarre point to make that the biggest and best sporting stadium in Australia that was renovated for the 2006 Commonwealth Games is now outdated by the day. Outdated how?

Rubbish. “Sell out” 1st ODI was 54000 at Perth Adelaide Oval test 1st day 55000 Now AO includes some members out the back but Strikers have had 52000 So Perth is not much bigger than Adeaide Oval and certainly not better

Reports are that Canberra was only in the running for group stage games or Round 2 games featuring lower ranked teams, so the ACT Govt decided to give it a miss. Understandable.

Probably the biggest surprise for me. Perth has consistently been the best performing city on and off field in the BBL. Add in the best stadium in the country and its an absolute shock. The ACB is only slightly better than the other national sporting boards for seeing across the nullabor.

I guess the main problem is the cramped nature of it. Seats are small and very close together - upstairs is ok but the lower level is very cramped. And the ground level very flat so the view isn’t great. When it was first built there was a lot more air flow as the ground level had mesh at the back of the stand. That has been covered up now - you just don’t get any air flow down stairs. Horrible on a humid summer day watching cricket. Facilities need a complete upgrade. Bars and food outlets are badly outdated. And as I said getting there and back is difficult. Sure that may improve with cross river rail and the metro but they are years away and still don’t address the fact it is surrounded by four major roads that need to be crossed in order to get in and out of the ground. Can’t see any changes in the short term and as a result I can see more and more big games passing the Gabba.

Neither do I, I might add. But I don’t mind those who do. Each to their own. I’m not fussed about the standard of women’s cricket/footy, only that it is played, and it is continued to be played. The standard will improve over time. Have you had a look at some of the scores from the early days of AFL? 50 points was raining goals in those days. Your complaint that media coverage is “not warranted” is the same claim you’ve made many many times before as if there is some sort of standard or benchmark for media coverage before anyone can say anything about it. Yes, it’s preferential and equal opportunity coverage, but so what? Again, you don’t have to read or pay attention to it. It’s aimed at other people. Re: the maths – salaries for all women’s teams combined was $2.275 million in 2017, and will be $2.752 million in 2018. That’s still barely ¼ of the cap for just one of the men’s sides. The men’s salary is about $180 million each year. So in about 40-50 years given expansion for inflation etc the women’s comp might cost the same as one team in the AFL did about 40 years ago. The only person suffering from fuzzy maths is yourself, and it’s fuzzy because you’re squinting to try and change the figures to something that actually supports your argument. It’s televised because the TV networks have a broadcast deal with these sports. None of this should be hard to understand.

Well, you’re certainly not the target market so no-one would be worried you’re not watching. Well, obviously. Duh... I don't wear fried chicken containers on my head and bang inflatable sticks together. The important thing is that these events do take place, and they are supported by the code as a whole. I know you don’t think men’s sport should subsidise women’s sport but the hard truth is that sports are increasingly going to struggle for funding as the future rolls on, and sports that have demonstrated and made moves to appeal the widest possible audience will be the ones who will adapt better to the future. That's fine, but don't pretend that women's T20 or AWFL has entertainment value that warrants national or international media coverage. The U/19's World Cup has a far higher standard of play than women's cricket. Only someone who wanted cricket or AFL to fail would bemoan a women’s competition. A women’s competition will never send these codes bankrupt or even make any real impact on the finances, but the absence of one altogether could be catastrophic in coming years. That maths on that is really fuzzy. Much like the maths used to justify expansion AFL team in the northern states. The Suns will never work, never be profitable. That’s why sports have administrators to make sensible and far-sighted decisions like this, and not take the cowardly route of just playing to the base. I just don't understand why women's cricket and AWFL is nationally televised when no-one really watches it. I don't know anyone, never see anyone watching it in pubs. Who are these people?

Well, you're certainly not the target market so no-one would be worried you're not watching. The important thing is that these events do take place, and they are supported by the code as a whole. I know you don't think men's sport should subsidise women's sport but the hard truth is that sports are increasingly going to struggle for funding as the future rolls on, and sports that have demonstrated and made moves to appeal the widest possible audience will be the ones who will adapt better to the future. Only someone who wanted cricket or AFL to fail would bemoan a women's competition. A women's competition will never send these codes bankrupt or even make any real impact on the finances, but the absence of one altogether could be catastrophic in coming years. That's why sports have administrators to make sensible and far-sighted decisions like this, and not take the cowardly route of just playing to the base.

I watch women's tennis (obviously a lower standard the men), I watch the Matilda's, women's basketball at the Olympics. These are sports played at a relatively high standard by women. Women's cricket just isn't a high enough standard to engage me as a viewer. Same with AWFL. Can't get into it. No real entertainment value. I don't know who would sit down for 3 hours to watch it.

You may find this surprising, but women are people too you know. You and anon can go sit at home together and watch reruns of The Honeymooners if you can't stand watching women do well in life

Ticks some boxes at ICC headquarters - Equality - Engaging women - Virtue signalling Sponsors love all that stuff. It's one of those 2 for 1 deals. If you sponsor the men you get SJW stuff thrown in for free.

Well Australia will have 5 group games so logically that would include 1 in Brisbane, but yeah more likely to be Bangladesh or Zimbabwe then India or England

I've been a couple of times, and I've never entirely understood what is wrong with it. It certainly needs a bit of a polish up in terms of facilities and amenities, and they can all be provided with a renovation and refurbishment. No need to pull down and restart. I agree that it desperately needs better transport connections. An underground city rail from Central to the Gabba (via the CBD) connecting to the Cleveland line would be perfect. I wouldn't change the size of the Gabba - there's no market need for it. Brisbane Lions haven't sold out a game for 15 years and the only time the Gabba get's slightly full for cricket is the Ashes.

I imagine the problem with Perth having a semi is that if it rains and you play on the reserve day you are potentially leaving the winning side with a very tight travel schedule in terms of preparation for the final