Twelve talking points from NRL Round 7

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The Eels are on the board, no teams are undefeated anymore and the draw has come under full scrutiny once again with more double-ups inside the first two months of action. Here are my talking points from Round 7 of this crazy 2018 season.

Was Billy Slater’s try a try?
Ever since Storm fullback Billy Slater scored off a faux dropkick on Friday night, opinion has been divided over what constitutes a dropkick.

Precedence would say it wasn’t a dropkick, yet, the referees boss has backed the official decision on the night to award the superstar a try, which was crucial in the Storm’s eventual and important victory over the Broncos.

Looking at the footage, an argument can certainly be made that Slater did in fact ‘intentionally’ drop the ball looking for a kick, which then makes it a dropkick. The official NRL rule book states a knock on is:

“If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed. Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball,”

The key word here is ‘accidentally.’ If it was ruled Slater dropped the ball accidentally, then there is no way it should have been allowed as a dropkick because the ball touched the ground before he kicked it.

Because of the intentional ruling though, the referees awarded a try.

We can argue all day about it, but at the end of the day, the footage doesn’t look all that accidental, so despite my initial reservations, I’m quite happy for that to be a try, so long as we see consistency applied to the rule.

And that’s despite the fact Slater got up shaking his head. He did a very good job of making something accidental look intentional without meaning to based on his body language.

The loss they had to have: Dragons go six and one. Again.
Six and one is a haunting number for Dragons fans. It’s exactly where they were last season heading into ANZAC Day, and without going into too many painful details, we all know exactly how that ended up.

The game against the Roosters last year was a shocker for the Dragons. They lost Gareth Widdop to injury, Josh Dugan didn’t play the whole 80 and eventually, they went down to a Mitchell Pearce golden point field goal.

Things feel different this year though. Even after their first loss on the weekend, the Dragons have more depth in key positions this time around, and it felt like the loss the Dragons had to have.

Given their five-day turnaround and trip back from Auckland while the Roosters have an extra 24 hours and no flight, it would barely be a surprise to see the Red V make it two straight losses, but they were far from poor against the Warriors.

While the facts – over 60 per cent possession with just a few tries – make for concerning reason, the Dragons have been doing things reasonably easily up until now, and just maybe, that loss will reinforce some issues they need to work on, despite leading the competition.

It was the first time they have played a team at the top of their game this season (and that’s probably a credit to the Dragons defence more than anything else), but they will learn from the loss.

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Moses has the power to turn Parra around
Parramatta are finally on the board!

What a victory it was as they thumped the Sea Eagles, running up 40 points and not once looking like the worse of the two teams.

The Sea Eagles were absolutely awful, but as the saying goes, you can only play what’s in front of you, and that’s exactly what the blue and gold did.

At the head of operations was half Mitchell Moses. He had a pearler of a game, setting up tries and causing problems for the Manly defence left, right and centre. He was man of the match by the length of the straight, and with that sort of form, he could well kickstart Parra’s season.

Of course, he wasn’t the only player who had a great game – it was hard to locate a bad player in Brad Arthur’s side – but it was an emphatic return to the winner’s circle.

I’ve previously more or less written off the Eels, and the first 20 minutes of this contest were still concerning as they struggled to score against Manly, but the last hour was fantastic.

It’s still going to be tough to make the finals, needing to win at least 11 of their final 17 games. It leaves very little room for error, but it’s doable. They need to go on a run of victories now though to give themselves some breathing space, and Moses is the man to spark it.

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What a bludger Thursday was
Thursday night’s round opener between the Roosters and Bulldogs was a shocker for anyone but rugby league purists, let’s get that fact out of the way.

The Roosters came away with the win after Latrell Mitchell became the first and last scorer in the fifth minute. I don’t need to repeat the records that were broken, but neither team would have been impressed with their attack, particularly the Roosters, who would have been looking to make a statement against a side on a five-day turnaround.

What both coaches can take out of the game though was that the defence was first class.

The Roosters held a side scoreless, the Bulldogs to six. While it was a bludger of a game, both sides can take things away to build on moving forward.

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Oh Sammy, what are you doing?
Sam Burgess had just returned from two weeks on the sideline for an elbow to the throat of Josh Morris. Now, one brain snap later he is staring down another two, maybe three weeks on the sideline if he fights and loses at the judiciary.

The English prop has never been one to back down from a challenge, but it’s costing his team with incidents like this.

If he was to miss three weeks, it’d mean he misses five out of six through suspension. When you’re the leader of a team’s forward pack, you can’t be missing that much footy through suspension and hoping the team makes it through in a good position.

There was an argument made Burgess could have been sent to the sin bin for his big hit on Sezer as well, and while that’s debatable, what’s not debatable is that the South Sydney prop will miss yet more footy.

It’s making life tough for Anthony Seibold in trying to replace him, and he must get a grip around discipline and decision making, or incidents like this will keep happening.

It put a dampner on what was otherwise a high-quality performance from South Sydney as they thumped the Raiders.

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Could the Warriors afford a bench spot for Mason Lino?
Mason Lino has had two standout performances now this season. On two occasions he has been asked to fill in for an injured Shaun Johnson and on two occasions has come up in a big way for the Auckland-based outfit.

He has pace, acceleration, agility and an ability to read the game, filling the role of Johnson well in a well-functioning halves combination alongside recruit Blake Green, who has been one of the most in-form players across the competition.

The question though, is how to make Lino a permanent part of first gade.

He surely deserves it, but would it upset the team balance. Last year, we saw Stephen Kearney often include Ata Hingano on the bench at the Warriors, and while he isn’t at the club anymore, if there was a man to fill that void and provide a rest for Issac Luke, it’d be Lino.

At the same time, there’s no point giving Luke a rest at the moment. He is in form better than he has been in for three or four years and a key man for the Warriors.

It’s also worth noting the Warriors are defending differently this year. They are working on line speed and high intensity, instead of laying back and conserving energy at times. Keep that up, and four forwards on the bench are a must.

The Sharks look a lot better with Josh Dugan at the back
Last week, I expressed major issues with the Sharks left-side defence. This week, it all seemed to be gone with Jesse Raimen back and Josh Dugan playing fullback.

While Matt Moylan is a good fullback in his own right, he isn’t in the class of Dugan, and is much better suited to a role in the frontline, playing in the halves.

Shifting things around meant the defensive liability on the left of Trent Hodkinson had disappeared, and it showed in Cronulla’s clash with the Panthers.

Dugan is among the best defensive readers in the competition and he showed it on the weekend, while his attacking play was also first class, ensuring the Sharks got off to good starts in their sets. With Moylan in the halves and their generally better field possession, it allowed play to be more expansive, which showed on the final scoreboard.

It made a huge difference compared to what they dished up last week, and if Shane Flanagan has learnt anything from the first seven weeks of competition, then surely Dugan will be at the back going forward.

How will Newcastle cope without Mitchell Pearce?
While the Knights managed to get a win over the Tigers, sending them back into the top eight after seven weeks of footy with more wins than they managed all of last year, it came at a huge cost.

Gun half Mitchell Pearce, who has been in fine form for the first seven weeks, guiding the Knights around the park, has been ruled out for an extended period with a pectoral injury – and the most extreme of reports state he may well be out for the remainder of the season.

That is a killer blow for the Knights, who would now be relying on two of Connor Watson, Brock Lamb (who has already been dropped) and Jack Cogger to get them into the finals.

The top eight is really where Nathan Brown’s want to be by the end of this year. They have improved out of sight and while there are still glaring issues in their play, no team has been even close to perfect this season like the Storm were last season, so the premiership at this stage seems a wide open race, let alone the top eight.

In short, the Knights will only be able to replace Pearce, not fill the void left by him should be miss the rest of 2018.

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Manly look a rabble
Whether it’s the reported off-field issues or not is anyone’s guess, but the Sea Eagles look a rabble right at the moment.

After a promising start to the season where they defended Brookvale well and fought on the road, it all came crashing to earth last week and was backed up by a resurgent Eels this week.

Last week, it was a 38-12 hammering at the hands of the Tigers. This week, Parramatta, who were yet to win a game, ran up a 44-10 scoreline on them, meaning the Sea Eagles have a combined score of 82-22 in their last 160 minutes of football.

Their commitment in on-line defence is nowhere to be seen, the attack is a shambles and Trent Barrett has a heap of work to do if the men from the northern beaches are to turn things around anytime soon.

The Raiders inconsistency is mind boggling
It’s quite unbelievable with the amount of talent the Raiders have, that they can’t seem to be consistent. Ever.

Raiders’ fans were left jumping mad on Saturday afternoon as the South Sydney Rabbitohs, whose attack hadn’t look much chop anyway, ran up 42 points in a convincing 20-point victory.

Canberra has well-documented issues in competing for 80 minutes, and they struck again on Saturday, although it’d be fair to argue they were never really in the game anyway, with the Bunnies running on three tries before anyone had a chance to blink.

Adam Reynolds being back is helping Souths, but the Raiders had no excuses for the performance they dished up after two straight victories.

Just when you thought they were starting to build momentum, they fold in on themselves and lose their way, meaning they now have to turn around next week and start from the ground floor again.

A record of two and five doesn’t accurately reflect what Ricky Stuart’s side should be bringing to the table, but it’s hard to see them turning it around on a week-to-week basis.

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The Broncos will be in trouble without McCullough
While Pearce appeared to be the key injury coming out of the weekend, Broncos hooker Andrew McCullough also picked up a hyperextended elbow.

Initial reports feared he could miss two months on the sidelines. While it’s not likely to be that serious, any length of time McCullough spends out is serious for Brisbane, particularly with back-up hooker Jake Turpin also on the sidelines at the moment.

They genuinely face the prospect of Sam Thaiday playing a lot of hooker in the next couple of weeks with no McCullough, and that is a major worry.

It’s a frustrating time for McCullough to go down injured, because the Broncos improved against the Storm. It was a high-quality game of footy and one which they could quite easily have won if a few things had of gone their way.

As we saw last year, the Broncos premiership hopes went out the back window when the hooker injured his ACL and was rubbed out for the remainder of the season. For the club’s sake, let’s hope the injury doesn’t rule him out for long or ruin any momentum the Broncos have built in the last fortnight.

The Cowboys finally click
It’s been a long and horrid first month and a half to 2018 for the Cowboys, but they looked a different team in their beating of the Titans on Saturday evening.

It was the first time this season the creative combinations have clicked. Johnathan Thurston looked still a way off his absolute best, but it was his best performance of the year, as it was for Michael Morgan, Lachlan Coote and key forwards, Jason Taumalolo and Matt Scott.

The Cowboys still have plenty of improvement to do, and to be fair, it’s hard to make an assessment after beating the Titans, who are a bit all over the place.

North Queensland have won just two of their first seven games and have a lot of work to do, but it was the first positive step in the right direction for the club.

The victory did come at a cost though, with John Asiata, who has been one of their best so far suffering a pectoral injury and now being likely to miss an extended period of time.

Roarers, what did you make of Round 7? Drop a comment below and let us know.

The Crowd Says:

2018-04-24T06:41:08+00:00

Rob

Guest


I think i know the try you are thinking of (Game 1, 2005)and i'm guessing it was Tye Williams scoring after Slater attempting to catch the ball and it hits his knee. Ruled play on of Slaters knee because it didn't touch his hands. Didn't touch his hands at any point correct ruling. What a great Billy Try Assist .

2018-04-23T03:54:50+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


It seems that Manly is stuck with DCE for another 8 years or so but if it happens that both parties agree that the situation is really bloody ordinary and they would be better off apart then that's what will happen. Super League would snap him up and that's the end of it. If DCE is desperate to stay and the club don't want him then maybe playing for Blacktown would encourage him to see the light. If DCE is desperate to leave but the club wants him to stay then he just has to play like nonsense and he gets released. The main thing that would cause trouble is if he couldn't find a club to pay 1 million a year for the long haul . I'm suspecting an English club would do this but it's only a guess.

2018-04-23T03:15:23+00:00

Matt H

Roar Guru


Yes it did. Such a strange decision.

2018-04-23T02:30:52+00:00

jimmmy

Guest


Yeah , I wish Chicken legs Reffed that game. He is influenced by no one. Those two Refs were star struck.

2018-04-23T02:14:49+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


There were a number of brain fades in that game including that one, though in Milfords defence it did look like it was going dead live and the change of direction caught him out but still a poor effort staright after a great try. Losing Macca at the 50 min mark didn't help either

2018-04-23T02:07:02+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Pretty sure thats always been classed as a kick. Slater got a try in one Origin after he dropped the ball on his knee and chased it. It's not treated any different to if you dropped the ball and kicked it before it hits the ground

2018-04-23T01:24:30+00:00

MrJSquishy

Roar Pro


Completely agree Emcie. However, I did originally think that that try was absolutely crucial in why the Broncos lost, until I looked at the match highlights. The biggest factor in Brisbane losing that game was the absolute no-brainer from Milford late in the second half to allow Vunivalu to score unopposed when someone (anyone) from the Broncos should have knocked it dead. It was woeful defense and in my opinion, the final nail in the coffin. They were four points behind at that stage. Could have very easily won from there. But, that play is what I consider the coach killer....

2018-04-23T00:59:10+00:00

Albo

Guest


Moylan had a lot more involvement yesterday and directed their play at the obvious Panthers weakness ( lack of speed out wide ) particularly on their right side defence where make shift centre Harawrra -Naera was regularly being burnt by Leutele & Sorensen and young Crichton was committing schoolboy errors. Fifita was strong for the Sharks ( 21 hit ups) and Dugan their best at the back. I think their right spine is now in place and once they get their key pack members back, I can see them making a charge. For the Panthers, they will rue that loss as another one they let go, thanks to some schoolboy errors and inept defence at times. They are in desperate need of some outside backs and Nathan Cleary back ASAP.

2018-04-23T00:38:43+00:00

Rob

Guest


No problem on him being missed in defence but I just believe they have a very good backline that often don't see enough ball with Gallen on the field. How many points do they score when his off the field? I think you'd be surprised. Holmes is a fantastic finisher but has butter on his fingers also. A safe fullback he is not.

2018-04-23T00:26:40+00:00

Rob

Guest


No worries, but what if I drop it on my lower leg? As Barry said"Refs are ruling on intent and trying to determine it in that situation is far more difficult". Can of worms for mine.

2018-04-22T23:42:31+00:00

PNG Broncos fan88

Roar Guru


McGuire has been Brisbane's best all season, he can hold the middle in defence as well if given the hooking role. Was a revelation for Samoa in that role, and would make more yards and draw in more defenders than Macca. Pangai to lock and Tagatese in on the bench as the back up forward - Broncs will be fine without McCullough. Storm have made the refs blink, they will strangle all coming opposition to their whim from here on.

2018-04-22T23:36:52+00:00

Albo

Guest


Still can't believe the Sharks let him go ? Especially when they haven't had a decent centre since ET ?

2018-04-22T23:31:03+00:00

souvalis

Guest


If I was forced to be critical of anyone in the Sharkies team it would be Qlder Holmes..he’s made careless errors at crucial times in far too many games this year and yesterday was no different..at the moment he’s playing like the ‘ex’ best winger in the world....

2018-04-22T23:28:42+00:00

jimmmy

Guest


That’s a pretty fair summary BA. The Cows at least ran with purpose but I can’t say ‘They’re back ‘ just yet. It was just good to see them have a real crack. As for Parra I think they are the same. They were better than the Cows on the weekend IMO but can they do it again .? .I hope so, their fans deserve much better than what they have been given. One thing you didn’t mention was the Warriors . I have been burnt before but I am close to declaring them the real deal. If they are show they are competitive with the Storm on ANZAC day , I think they make the top four,

2018-04-22T22:43:32+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


DCE didn't seem too on the nose last year when they snuck into 6th and they've had games this year where they've looked really good so the issues seem to me to be a bit more recent. That saidI dunno if too much should be read from that game. The Eels were always going to bounce back at some point and you can bet that they'd be up for the Manly game after they put 50 on them in round 2, and after Manlys week its not surprising that they were off and they've also showed this year that when they're off they can get scores put on them. I think manly were the victim of a perfect storm yesterday and next round will be more of an indication of how they're going internally than yesterdays game.

2018-04-22T22:32:17+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


It was a definate change in momentum Peter, Storm weren't on a roll at all at that point. Broncos had litterally just scored and the only reason Storm were even near the try line was because of an offside penalty in their own half. Broncos imploded for the next 10/15 minutes and the two Storm tries in that time came off the back of Broncos dropped balls. With ten minutes to go both sides had scored the same amount of trys (inculding Slaters "drop kick") so to suggest that it had no bearing on the result doesn't really hold up. That try put the Storm in front which completely changes how both sides approach the rest of the game. Without that early buffer do we see the storm slow the game to a crawl by deliberately conceeding penalties and time wasting as the Broncos start getting a roll on coming into half time? Did the try cost the Broncos the game? No, they had their chances and errors proved costly. But don't try to suggest that the try had no impact on the game

2018-04-22T22:24:39+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I agree about it not costing the game, but Pete would you be happy if that decision was awarded versus the Storm?

2018-04-22T22:23:37+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Isn’t DCE on a 10 year, $10 million contract or similar? They can’t get rid of him, for better or worse Manly have committed to building their team around DCE for the next decade. If they try and offload him under these circumstances no one is going to pick him up for anything near a mill a season. The Eagles will be part funding his contract for the next eight years or so.

2018-04-22T22:18:02+00:00

BA Sports

Roar Guru


The Roosters v Dogs game - did not have amazing defence. Yes they have to concentrate for 80 minutes to keep a team to nil / six points, but there was very little in the way of challenge attack. zero line breaks on 40 sets of six for the Dogs and why King and Mybe are kicking the ball at all when Foran is in the team makes no sense. Foran needs to get himself more involved. Tigers v Knights was probably the most exciting game of the weekend - Really feel for the Knights fans losing Pearce. That could cost them half a dozen wins from here out. They may not have made the Finals, but it would have been a good ride to watch them keep improving You would want to see more from the Cowboys before declaring them back. 23 penalties and 22 errors n that game. It was dreadful Ray Hadley was clearly wrong (shock horror). Arthur still has the room. The Eels got back to what made them successful last year - the quick guys getting in and sprinting out of dummy half. Gutho had 14 runs (most out of Dummy half) and it got the side off to good starts. Add to that the six line drop outs and it was that same recipe that worked last year.

2018-04-22T21:53:49+00:00

jimmmy

Guest


The Sharks were good yesterday Rene . Their best attack for a while I think. Maybe it’s just my QLD anti Gal bias showing but I like the Sharkies more when he doesn’t play.

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