Israel Folau and the political football

By James Mampara / Roar Rookie

‘Keep rugby out of politics’. It’s a well-known adage that in a pub, it’s best to never discuss two things: politics and religion.

Why? Because the camaraderie that we like to share over a pint of beer can so easily evaporate and turns to fists. Conventional wisdom is age old.

Not coincidentally it happens that a major nexus of the rugby game is the pub. It’s where friends gather to support their teams and to share a yarn. Hence the boundless advertising dollars that beer companies sink into football.

Sadly though the poison of politics has been slipped into the rugby drink. More and more it seems that simple and innocent games are being tainted by political campaigns. Last year the ARU announced, prior to the same-sex vote, that it was for the ‘Yes’ Campaign.

Shortly thereafter the RFU announced that it would support the Stonewall Foundation ‘Rainbow Laces Campaign’ to ‘tackle homophobia’. Both unions peddle the notion that rugby needs to be more ‘inclusive’. The line goes that people who practise homosexuality would otherwise be bullied or pushed out.

So what about rugby Christians? Or Muslims? Or Hindus? Or even secularists who simply are not interested in another person’s sex life, who only want to experience the joy of running and catching a ball?

These people of faith account for billions worldwide, with huge potential to grow the game. Now that Israel Folau has spoken out, he represents the deeply religious diaspora of Polynesian and Melanesian people who dearly love rugby, and who were fine before politics.

But maybe rugby politics is nothing new. Who could of course forget South Africa, and the apartheid boycott? Almost the entire world banded together in the 1980s to make a stand. For it was clear-cut when race was involved – after all, you can’t change your race.

Concurrently, some people claim that sexuality is not a choice. Yet the faithful believe that this is ridiculous, and are happy to say so, just as atheists are happy to say that God is not real. Because sexuality crosses over into a lifestyle domain, the same as religion, whereas Cultural Marxism is simply a power struggle.

But back to South Africa – 20 years on we’ve all witnessed the catastrophic demise of South African rugby, when Marxism out shouts plain equality. These exploits have been well documented, where attempts at ‘transformation’ have effectively reversed discrimination, with the best players often overlooked so that the sport can be more ‘inclusive’.

Or shall we take America, in a sport thankfully removed from rugby? Nearly everyone in the sporting world must be painfully aware of the politics that have engulfed the NFL. Whether you prefer Trump, or Black Lives Matter, one thing is certain: the game has suffered for it.

Attendance figures have tumbled, and so has TV viewership, with all the advertising dollars that come with it, all because the average citizen is fed up. Do we want this for rugby?

Or what about me, a man who loves rugby, who grew up with the sport and shared it with my father and mother and friends? I am now considering a split from rugby over politics. My faith (guess which one) determines that I must make a choice.

I’ve already cut three rugby websites – Rugby Heaven, Rugby Stuff, and Planet Rugby – for their respective articles about the ‘The Gay Bledisloe Cup’, or their unceasing promotion of rainbow laces. I no longer watch English Premiership Rugby, and I may well soon cut the ARU.

So maybe someone’s happy. Someone may think, ‘Good riddance’. We don’t need another bigot; rugby is the better for it. Well yes, but I can get my fix from Fijian rugby, or Japanese, or anywhere untainted with politics. And I can easily retort that Stonewall, and the ARU are bigoted towards people of faith.

I can even assert that it smacks of a desperate attempt to gain attention for struggling brands. And when I push back, I too will rally support, and take others with me, perhaps with effects as damaging to rugby as they were to the NFL. All because of a political football.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2018-05-05T09:17:45+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


Look we live in a tragic world. But the disillusionment in one person can never extinguish the hope in others. For love is something that we can never prove, yet it makes people stronger.

2018-05-05T06:54:29+00:00

Neil Back

Roar Rookie


All of the above offer proof positive we’re by nature fallible, and at the same time debunk the myth of a caring and watchful creator - which also highlights the childish gulibility of the ‘faithful’.

2018-05-05T04:02:41+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


And they are. But it's not enough to just say I disagree. They want him to take back his remarks, want him sacked, etc.

AUTHOR

2018-05-05T02:28:48+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


The rainbow laces are a clear example of waving an opinion around, something that has been imposed on an otherwise neutral domain. Otherwise, I can't agree at all that this is a simple, black and white issue. For instance, some people believe that Hell is literal. For others (like St Thomas Aquinas) the idea of Hell is an abstracted idea, which represents misery on earth, such as a life absent from family. Hence people like Israel Folau may believe that it is a greater show of love to decry a lifestyle that leads to alienation and vanity. They may even go so far as to say that people who encourage unhealthy behaviours, like 'progressive' lobbyists, are the more hateful party, when it leads to the destruction of others. For example, a drug company could be construed as hateful, when they push transgender hormone replacements (something physically dangerous), and profit from human insecurities. I loved the Monty Python reference, by the way. I can own that I did do a bit of name drop, but that was in response to your quotation. As for Marxism, I have concluded that it is a hateful doctrine. Marx himself proclaimed violence as the only answer.

2018-05-04T13:59:33+00:00

Train without a station

Guest


Yes comments like “the rainbow set” sounds like not taking sides...

2018-05-04T07:59:30+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


I assume you reserve the same passion for drinkers and smokers then?

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:54:00+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


Fair comment Piru. In that spirit, I discourage homosexuality because it is medically unsafe. I believe that if you truly care for someone, you would rather tell them something that they don't want to hear. Otherwise, In Brief has the right idea. In Brief treats homosexuals, Christians, Muslims, and whatever, with the same objective indifference, and is not trying to force anyone to accept an ideology.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:41:34+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


This is the exact problem with identity politics. Some people dress in rainbow colours, and yet it's an insult to speak of them as 'the rainbow set'. No, the reaction is one of hyper-sensitivity.

2018-05-04T07:40:06+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


The point is James that having a different opinion doesn't mean you have to wave it around. If people such as Folau, and others (religious or not, I don't particularly care, their views don't gain special significance because they came from a different book to others) wish to live in an inclusive community, they need to accept that their hatred/dislike/fear/whatever of a certain group is not considered acceptable. This is not the same as an opinion on foreign policy, economics, rugby tactics or whether an African Swallow might carry a coconut. It's a simple, black and white opinion that 'X group' is bad and going to hell - there's no room for debate, there's no discussion to be had about it. He's stated it and that's that. Part of an inclusive community needs to include the ability to debate ideas and opinions, in ascribing his opinion to a god, he makes it unassailable without infringing on his right to believe as he wants. Again, when that god tells him not to eat shellfish or work on the sabbath, it's no big deal - he can make that sacrifice for his god, that's his business. When he start's throwing comments into the public sphere that can or may be hurtful or dangerous to a group - then that comment or idea needs to be debatable and not hidden away up on the god shelf where it can't be questioned. As for your second name dropping party, I'm not even going to attempt to get involved except to say that if you're an expert on Marxism, then you should know better

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:37:53+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


I like in this the expression of paradox. Just remember that Gary has said 'I am not taking sides'.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:34:55+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


You make a good point, but there is a difference between backing the 'Yes' campaign, and omitting support for people of faith.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:29:00+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


It would be an unpleasant effect of evolution to warrant Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. We may have science, but that doesn't mean we're infallible.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:24:02+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


piru, it's actually a good question: how are we to act inclusively whilst not standing against divisiveness? The answer is that it is impossible to live life without offending someone. Moreover it is simply hypocritical to pretend that you are being inclusive, then call for the religious to be excluded. Illustrative of this is to say 'Weak attempt at semantic judo'. I could also blurt 'Hey, that's stupid'. But again we go in circles. Secondly, it holds no import to garner a biased quotation from an un-cited source, inasmuch as the literary critic Hayden White tells us that historical truth is merely arranged as a narrative. I found this especially true in my 'Literary Theory' class at the University of Queensland, with over 80% of the course work on Marxism. It was merely a manifestation of Gramsci's 'manufactured consent', as a blatant form of indoctrination.

2018-05-04T07:19:36+00:00

Rugby is Life

Guest


Yeah its working for the big 4 banks. Its like the Emperor's clothes mate. Sooner or later someone figures out you are naked.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:07:45+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


And sad to say, this Folau incident won't be the last. Mark my words.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:06:28+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


I agree. Truly. Yet I wanted some balance.

2018-05-04T07:06:27+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


They wouldn't do it if it wasn't good for business Capitalism baby

2018-05-04T07:05:43+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


My point is if you feel a certain way, have the courage to stand behind it, don't pretend your god made you think or feel the way you feel. If you feel differently to the way your church tells you to feel, leave Who do you think you're impressing by pretending? If you believe in gods you must believe they know the truth of it.

AUTHOR

2018-05-04T07:02:50+00:00

James Mampara

Roar Rookie


Ah-ha! But you assume that I'm Christian. Did I not write 'guess which one'? And did I not write 'what about Christians, or Muslims, or Hindus?' But you're right, it's wrong to claim that all Pacific peoples believe the same thing. Maybe TJ Perenara made the same mistake.

2018-05-04T07:01:11+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


TJ Perenara said that Folau’s comments ‘cannot be tolerated’. Therefore one group is trying to silence another, instead of acting ‘inclusively’. Ah the old "if you don't tolerate my intolerance you're intolerant" argument. Perhaps you could explain to us how we are to act inclusively whilst not standing against divisiveness? Weak attempt at semantic Judo Secondly: "Cultural Marxism" is a snarl word used to paint anyone with progressive tendencies as a secret Communist. The term alludes to a conspiracy theory in which sinister left-wingers have infiltrated media, academia, and science and are engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. Some variants of the conspiracy alleges that basically all of modern social liberalism is, in fact, a Communist front group. homophobia ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/Submit noun dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people. Do you see how one is a thing and one isn't?

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