Hurricanes vs Chiefs: Super Rugby quarter-finals live scores, blog

By Geoff Parkes / Expert

The Hurricanes and the Chiefs will go head to head on Friday night to kick off a Super Rugby finals series with a match that is hard to pick.

Join The Roar for live scores from the match and a live blog of the game at Westpac Stadium, starting from 5:35pm AEST.

The Hurricanes and the Chiefs have been two of the most impressive seasons of all the sides in the Super Rugby competition, but because of the conference system the Chiefs have been forced to travel.

These two teams each took 11 wins from the season, and were second only to the Crusaders in terms of overall wins for the year.

The Hurricanes thanks to two more bonus points than their opponents have reached fourth place on the overall table – moved below conference winners the Waratahs and the Lions, which gives them home advantage in this match.

They also had a +131 points difference compared to the Chiefs’ +95.

It’s funny to think that if the Super Rugby table were decided without conferences then all four quarter-finals would be hosted in New Zealand this year – instead, we get to seen an all-Kiwi clash here.

As such it should be quite a treat to see two of the very strongest sides in the Super Rugby competition going up against each other.

Whoever makes it through this match is likely set for the toughest test in Super Rugby – a do-or-die clash with the Crusaders in a semi-final next week.

Of course, it’s possible that the travelling Sharks could upset the ‘Saders tomorrow and provide the winner of this one with an unexpectedly easy path to the final… but no one expects that to happen.

Join The Roar for live scores from the match and a live blog of the game between the Hurricanes and the Chiefs in the Super Rugby quarter-finals on Friday night at Westpac Stadium, starting from 5:35pm AEST.

The Crowd Says:

2018-07-21T11:54:26+00:00

Tycoch22

Guest


TMO does not have last call. Wrong mate. This why the "Powers-to-Be" are making noises about the TMO process. By the way it might have been a legitimate try. I watched the replays and could not tell whether TJP knocked on, but I also could not say he hadn't. Most people, including the comms, thought it was 50:50. Personally I think TMOs should only be used to sort out blunders/obvious stuff - leave judgement calls to the refs

2018-07-21T11:51:33+00:00

Jerry

Guest


Ref did have last call, the TMO only told him there was no clear evidence of a knock on. Jackson awarded the try based on that advice.

2018-07-21T11:40:26+00:00

Julz

Guest


Well damn, the try was given mate, TMO has the last call there too mate. So you wrong there mate. That was the right call.

2018-07-21T10:56:53+00:00

Tycoch22

Guest


On field call "No try" Was there a knock-on? Videos inconclusive So stick with on-field Ref has last call not TMO Attacking team does not get benefit of 50:50 calls.

2018-07-21T10:22:09+00:00

double agent

Guest


Some champagne rugby as you'd expect from these two sides but jeez there was a lot of ordinary stuff. Some very un-kiwi stuff ups throughout.

2018-07-21T10:19:21+00:00

double agent

Guest


There's been very few 10s in the history of rugby at any level that have been terrific defenders.

2018-07-21T09:59:37+00:00

Julz

Guest


Interesting. If you're been watching all season, the TMO always look for a clear evidence of a knock-on or a clear evidence to not give a try. To me that was the right call. No clear evidence of a knock-on. TJ looks like he knocked the ball forward, but if you watch it again very closely, NO CLEAR EVIDENCE that it knocked from his hands. Those 50/50 calls always goes the attacking team. Plus the TMO will always have the last call whether the ref calls an on-field try or no-try. I'm surprised that this is debated. If you been watching rugby you see those calls every week. No surprises here.

2018-07-21T08:58:25+00:00

Jerry

Guest


That's ok Mapu, I'll just bask in the quiet glow of my own deluded sense of entitlement.

2018-07-21T08:31:21+00:00

Tipene Roar

Roar Rookie


I do not agree with you on this one?

2018-07-21T07:11:37+00:00

ethan

Guest


You must remember this is his first full season of SR playing in the 10 jumper. If he was Australian we'd be giddy at the thought of him putting on a WB jumper, at least compared to our other options. BB was not noted for his management skills for many years, but is steadily growing into it. D Mac will improve. NZ was spoilt for years by DC and everyone gets judged harshly in comparison, even BB, who is not at that level. It's true that some guys never get to the point where they shine in high pressure situations, but I wouldn't be ruling DMac out just yet.

2018-07-21T06:15:30+00:00

Kirky

Roar Rookie


There was some wonderful play in that game, but the one player who has always done it for me is Charlie Ngatai, boy he's a joy to watch, love to see him playing in the World Cup, won't happen though! Laumape is a 'pocket battleship and built like a 'brick bogger' and he put it all out there his last two games, he'll be in next year for sure, and Boshier for the Chiefs I would imagine that Shag' and co will have seen him play yesterday and who knows for his future? ~ Unfortunately for him, New Zealand has no shortage of quality top class loose Forwards!~ Great hard and fast game by two very good sides going at it!

2018-07-21T05:59:02+00:00

Kirky

Roar Rookie


Jerry: I have replayed that ''try incident'' on Fox many times, last night after the game and this morning and if the ball went forward at all it was by the guy on his left who was a Chiefs Player by his forearm (which would have been a 'knocked back' ~ and it appears to be pretty conclusive that Perenara had done the right thing by scoring what was originally judged by the Referee of the day as a TRY, then that Touchie saw it another way clouding the Referees decision so upstairs it went with the correct result forthcoming from same! Correct ruling!

2018-07-21T05:08:18+00:00

Tycoch22

Guest


Glenn Newman was TMO - he is the guy who stuffed up in the England v Wales game. The video replays were inconclusive - on field decision "no try" so it should have stayed that way. If the TMO could clearly see that TJP had the ball throughout then he could overturn, but the video was not that definitive

2018-07-21T03:36:49+00:00

The Neutral View From Sweden

Roar Guru


Chiefs players and coaches probably wake up today and wonder how did that happen... The Canes was there for the taking, but Chiefs can only blame themselves. Laumape's effort in defense was next level. Go on like that boy and you will be a nailed on starter for the AB's.

2018-07-21T01:52:19+00:00

Cliff Bishkek

Roar Rookie


Ethan, I do not think he will. Under pressure or in situations where there is the need for the second 5 to step up, he seems to go into his cocoon and is nowhere near as confident in his plays. He is good but he seems to go to his highs when the team is well in front in terms of pushing the opposition. He does not seem to be able to run a backline or a team as per BB and D Carter.

2018-07-21T01:40:30+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Gday RT! Ooops sorry for slightly late reply I was distracted by West's awesome display of skill and game control

2018-07-21T01:17:49+00:00

Jerry

Guest


Jackson specifically said that the knock on was the element he was concerned about, so a TMO saying there's no clear evidence of a knock on removes that element as a concern. Here's the problems from my POV. 1 - Jackson's initial ruling of on field no try. Given he was satisfied with the grounding (as he didn't ask for it to be checked and awarded the try immediately after being advised on the knock on) and wasn't sure on the knock on, that should be an on field try. The question asked should have been 'is there any reason I can't award' with specific reference to a possible knock on. 2 - They should simply have been more clear on what was being ruled. I realise there's a difference between 'there is clear evidence he didn't knock on' and 'there isn't clear evidence he did knock on' but in this case the distinction is fairly marginal. Regardless of Jackson's initial ruling and of course my bias as a Canes fan, it seems to me the right decision was made. If 3 angles and multiple slow mo replays can't provide enough evidence that the ball was knocked on prior to being grounded, the try should be awarded.

AUTHOR

2018-07-21T01:05:08+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


I don't have it on tape Jerry, so can't remember the actual words verbatim, but I think you're being charitable about the process. If they got to the right decision (and for me it was a classic 50/50, I'm happy with try or no-try either way), it was only by accident. We've been conditioned to understand that if the ref's decision is an on-field try, the TMO is being asked to prove otherwise. The TMO saying 'no clear evidence of a knock on' isn't that. He should have been saying one of, 'there is no clear evidence that he didn't knock it on (ie,supporting the on-field no try decision) or 'there is clear evidence that he didn't knock on, (ie overturning the on-field decision and asking jackson to change his decision to try) It's only a small distinction, but if the ref is going to make an on-field recommendation before going upstairs, then we need this clarity in the process. Otherwise the refs are better to say that they don't know, and ask the TMO for a try/no try decision.

2018-07-20T22:49:22+00:00

Jerry

Guest


What Jackson said was 'On field no try, possible knock on', so he was asking for advice on the knock on specifically. The TMO then said there's no clear evidence of a knock on and Jackson then replied that meant it was a try. The TMO didn't actually recommend the try, he simply advised on the element that Jackson was worried about. Jackson had seen the ball grounded and was unsure of the knock on, so if there's any error there it's his - he should have said 'on field try' as he'd seen the elements required for a try clearly (ball grounded over the line) and was unsure about whether something had happened prior to that.

AUTHOR

2018-07-20T21:58:58+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Hi Jerry, you make an interesting point in the match thread below, and I understand where you're coming from. If the TMO thinks it's a try, then he's entitled to lead Jackson in this way and tell him to award the try. And perhaps, as you say, Jackson should have sent it upstairs as a 'try' not a 'no try'. But that's not how it happened. Jackson said 'no try' and the TMO - instead of saying I do have evidence that it's a try - actually said something like I don't have evidence to show that it wasn't a try. So he didn't answer Jackson's question, he provided an answer to a different question altogether, and shifted the burden of proof if you like. Very messy. And very hard to believe that in a week where SANZAAR says they are going to provide clearer protocols for TMO involvement, that a ref and TMO get this communication so messed up. Thankfully, the best team won on the night and it's not the major issue it could have been.

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