Value in Derby winners getting tough

By kv joef / Roar Guru

A great finish to the Flemington carnival is revealed in an impressive nine-card program. We’ll focus our interest on the two Group One races with a peek at the Queen Elizabeth Stakes.

Charged-up Dual Hemisphere Derby Winners Clash
The Seppelt Mackinnon Stakes may prove a major coup for the carnival when the race is settled. While Blair House has caught the attention of punters … be warned there maybe a trap for young players in the reckoning.

Blair House’s good benchmark rating 113, basically comes from his performances against one high-class horse, Benbatl.

These two Godolphin horses from different stables know each other well having met three-times for two epics and a cup-of tea with Benbatl holding a two-to-one advantage over the Appleby trained, Blair House. Trouble is that when you tear-up the rest of Blair House’s form, there doesn’t seem to be a benchmark close to that high rating from any of his other races.

It’s like when these two horses meet on a racecourse, it’s as if Blair House taunts Benbatl with … “alright flake, you are on! We’ll see who gets to wear the blue cap and who gets the white one”.

The Appleby trained gelding did well for fourth in the Underwood at his first Australian start after his Dubai Turf failure but that mark he returned wasn’t much off his high-quality European/Dubai handicap form and some seven points below this current benchmark estimation. He may prove me wrong here with a 113 performance, but he will need too.

The excellent matchup in this race for me is that of two of this year’s Derby winners. From the Northern hemisphere, this year’s Irish Derby winner Latrobe is set to take on the baby of the field and last Saturday’s dominant VRC (Spring) Derby winner, Extra Brut.

And this Spring Derby winner won’t be a pushover even on the quick backup. He was good last Saturday and ran time.

The form around Latrobe is Group One all the way. Rostropovich was a close second in Latrobe’s Derby and proved the form with a tough fifth in last Tuesday’s Melbourne Cup.

Cross Counter wins the 2018 Melbourne Cup (Photo: Brett Holburt/Racing Photos via Getty Images)

After the Derby win, the Joseph O’Brien trained galloper was game in defeat behind Flag of Honour in the Irish St. Leger before that horse was beaten only a couple of lengths by the world’s best distance horse Stradivarius in the marathon on Ascot Champions Day. Latrobe’s form stacks up solid and 2000 metres suits and his only ordinary run at the trip was when taking on Europe’s elite in the York Juddmonte International Stakes. Oops! Bit of an over-match there.

As for Extra Brut … it is a big ask for a youngster to tackle this quality off a hard run but with his weight-for-age discount to 51kg, I have an idea why Darren Weir didn’t hesitate after last Saturday’s victory, in saying where the horse would start next.

I’m happy enough backing them both at current odds. A slight leaning to Latrobe but only slight.

The VRC Sprint Classic offers an Everest rematch in spades
Seven horses are within five benchmark rating points of each other. This sets this time-honoured sprint up as the grand finale of a wonderful spring of short course racing.

Last year’s winner Redzel still holds the upper hand and rightly so after a dominant Everest repeat and he is every bit as good down the straight six as Redkirk Warrior or any other sprinter for that matter. The same can’t be said for Santa Ana Lane who hasn’t looked good at all. His last resounding defeat down the sprint course was over a year ago but that may change as his form has gone ballistic this year.

Love me some Redzel. (AAP Image/Brendan Esposito)

On Redkirk Warrior, he failed in this race last year off an Everest campaign but returns to his most successful strategy here; fresh and the straight six. He was ordinary in England, but he has hardly ever been ordinary here at this course.

Brave Smash is yet to beat Redzel home with over a year of trying so maybe a place at best.

There is a slew of Europeans in the race and while I’d like to get enthusiastic about US Navy Flag he needs to get on his bike. Maybe the big track and firmer surface will turn his form around. Spirit of Valor has been very competitive and chased hard in his two close-up finishes here but I’m sure he has never met anything that can blister the turf like Redzel. Don’t think Jungle Cat will measure up to this speed.

In Her Time looks to be a little off her best after surprisingly failing badly on heavy ground in the Everest. I still think she is a contender all the same.

The up-and-comer Pierata is doing everything right. Originally trained to get further than 1200 metres, he is now being aimed at the short course. He has a 68 second Randwick 1200 metre to his credit and that was a victory over the highly fancied Kementari. Last start, he was good putting away the Everest Consultation after missing a start in the big one. We’ll see if he can jump the scale in this. He does look to have a spring in his step.

I’ll stay with Redzel in front of Pierata, In Her Time and my perennial nightmare, Redkirk Warrior, who is sure to show up somewhere just to annoy me.

Another interest for me is the Queen Elizabeth Stakes with Lord Fandango garnishing my attention.

This horse emerged out of average European handicap form last spring to capture the Herbert Power before an excellent fourth in the Caulfield Cup. His Autumn was a little disappointing due to wet ground and targeting the Sydney Cup which may have been a tough too long for this competent intermediate stayer.

The Archie Alexander trained German has been good this preparation and I would not be surprised to see him go close to returning to the winners list at handy odds. The obvious danger for me is the Howley trained Midterm. Solid black-type form in England and finished a close fifth in the Randwick Metropolitan (G1) coming from the rear of the field. Also liked the way Sully has been running on lately too.

It will be a tough play as there are quite a few other chances like Northwest Passage, Jaameh, Libran, Gallic Chieftain, Megablast, Miss Admiration and the rest of them. Maybe I better think again as does look a competitive race doesn’t it? Nah … ‘fortune favours the brave’.

Plenty of good contests on the card so it should be a fun afternoon.

The Crowd Says:

2018-11-15T22:16:34+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


...Better Loosen Up another. Actually that would be an interesting topic thread in itself- horses who improved as they got older. Get onto it KV!

2018-11-15T22:06:44+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


Anyway, I wouldn’t characterise SALs form prior to that as inconsistent so much as average. He’s just got a lot better. Seems a bizarre comparison but there are shades of a much better Freedman horse here, the Diva. A top quality staying handicap type under Hall transformed into WFA superstar. Some horses just get better, though we don’t see it much more in Oz with our predilection for speedy juvenile squibs. KV raises some interesting points, but they’ve certainly found the key to him. Having said all that, I think our sprinters are an average bunch at the moment- Redzel is very overrated. If they were racing 6 or 7 years ago this lot would all be struggling to fill placings.

2018-11-15T21:54:28+00:00

paulywalnuts

Guest


His starting price in the Goodwood simply meant punters weren’t paying attention in the lead up race, the Irwin, which he clearly should have won. The only other runs he between the Rupert Clarke and the Goodwood was the Winterbottom where he was set an impossible task (and wouldn’t be the first horse not not find his best out west), and the Bel Esprit which was a first up hit out over 1100 where he also ran into traffic. I hardly think this constitutes inconsistent form. His starting price is the result of two main factors- first, his racing pattern, fair enough. Second, he’s been simply underrated- but hey, punters keep sending Kementari and Tom Melbourne out favourites so...

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2018-11-13T04:30:04+00:00

kv joef

Roar Guru


Santa Ana Lane's consistency this year has certainly broke with a previous pattern. I'll never forget Reckless. Three-year maiden that become the best two-miler in the land winning (4) or placing in all mainland 3200m Cups within a 12 month period ... when there was six of them. I've seen many things that can cause a form consistency reversal. Some are ... sometimes a young horse could carry a nearly undetectable injury that only causes pain intermittently giving performance variation. It heals naturally over time and consistency comes back. Often tiny hairline fractures can do this. They are incredibly hard to pick-up particularly a back vertebrae. young horses can become fatigued with stable life and like any creature, performance is reflected by mood but as they age they decide they like what they are doing (or don't). Most likely, as SAL has matured they have tinkered with his work (fitness) program. Often this revolves around all sorts of things like tapering work to his target race. That could be anything from galloping on the morning of the race to lessening their workload so they are 'fresh' on the day. The start-stop-start patterns between target races during a preparation can become very tricky over time ... but once you get them right ... you have a successful repeatable pattern. And sometimes you just 'fluke' a pattern or strategy or situation that fires them up. Like changing stables so he has new 'roommates' or even changing strappers. Anyway, the above are just a few of many I could reference and therefore it is a big congrats to Anthony Freeman for finding the key to a very exciting sprinter.

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2018-11-13T03:52:15+00:00

kv joef

Roar Guru


Agree Aransan. Firstly, congrats on finding the Cup winner. I think the success of the international sprinters joining the 2nd tier European distance horses will change our Spring for the good (and forever). The good form of both Jungle Cat and Spirit of Valor have sent a clear message to Europe that there is a lot of money on offer out here (on turf too) even if they chose to avoid the International quality sprints. I expect to see all sorts beginning to filter out here with different targets and most will be at our benchmark range as the higher marks will still head to the Breeders Cup (for now). Won't be long before the milers join the visiting sprinters and distance horses. When Winx retires ... they will come.

2018-11-12T19:18:40+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


even after his G1 win the Rupert Clarke he went back to ordinary form, thats why he was 20-1 to win the goodwood. since then he has been great. but there were 3 years of average sprint performances

2018-11-11T21:00:22+00:00

Paulywalnuts

Guest


I think early in his career the tried to make a miler out of him, before realising he’s an out and out sprinter. Don’t think he’s put in a bad run since. Had no chance in the Everest the way that race was run on that track, and was silly odds yesterday. Keeps going around at silly odds even though he’s a winner. Compare/contrast Kementari. This may partly be due to his racing pattern but it’s crazy how punters continually treat certain horses- Tom Melbourne’s another. Stables might have a bit to do with it too. Freedman is very low key.

2018-11-10T00:35:06+00:00

Aransan

Roar Rookie


Excellent article as always. We need to race against international horses to get accurate ratings over middle and staying distances. Perhaps international horses need to race against ours in sprints just to see where they are at. How good is Jungle Cat -- this race will tell us.

2018-11-09T23:20:12+00:00

JOHNY BULLDOG

Roar Rookie


Cheers for your efforts KV,really appreciate your insight mate-good luck & all the best. I like Latrobe & your acrh nemesis Redkirk Warrior!

2018-11-09T20:45:55+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


thanks for the wrap. can you explain Santa Ana Lane? was an average horse that occasionally put in a great run at 25-1. then just went great for about 5 starts?

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