How Ireland won the battle of the big men in Dublin

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

“From the liberal Cape Town to the conservative highveld… the one common factor is that the South Africans are a hard race and their rugby players are fearsome physical specimens. A Springbok is a big, big man.

“My captain was not a difficult decision. Martin Johnson fitted so many of the criteria we were looking for. I liked the idea of Martin knocking on the door of the opposition to toss up. Every other captain would invariably be looking up at him.”

Those were the comments of British and Irish Lions coach Ian McGeechan, looking back on the tour win in South Africa in 1997. Martin Johnson was just the man to stand up to Mark Andrews and Kobus Wiese and set his stamp on the series.

Historically, you did not beat South Africa until you could beat – and on occasion beat up – their big men. That is the reason it took the Lions until 1974 to win a series in the Republic.

They could never match their big men until Willie-John Bride and Gordon Brown came together in the second row. South Africa went through three different combinations in four Tests in an effort to find an answer to those two, but they never managed it.

Even the All Blacks historically struggled to win a series in South Africa. In the amateur era, they had one of their best chances to win one in 1970, with the remnants of Fred Allen’s stratospherically ambitious and successful side of the late sixties.

Curiously, the great Colin Meads had his arm broken in the early stages of a tour in which New Zealand were rampaging through the provinces, and Springboks coach Johan Claassen (another in the great South African second-row lineage) brought back ‘Lofty’ Nel for the decisive Tests at the age of 35. The Boks won the battle of the big men and brought home the series against the odds.

Before Nel, it was Frik du Preez and ‘Tiny’ Naude. Naude had famously kicked a goal out of the clinging Christchurch mud to beat New Zealand in the third Test of the 1965 tour, with Meads giving him the evil eye from a few yards away.

When Naude was stricken by Alzheimer’s disease late in life, he could still remember the events of that afternoon as clear as daylight.

He still could remember Meads and du Preez, that sodden ball wrapped in the weight of history – although even his own wife and children had continually to remind him who they were in everyday life.

Frik and another great Springbok giant, Schalk Burger Senior, had come to visit Naude at his West Somerset home. It was a bleary afternoon, but all of a sudden, the rain and the fog cleared.

As Burger said, “It was as if, when Frik arrived, he could remember everything again… Tiny doesn’t remember the other players. He doesn’t even remember his own name. But he remembered Frik.”

Burger and du Preez left Tiny holding on to a gift, a copy of du Preez’s autobiography, Frik. They left him laughing at his renewed connection with a life which had largely abandoned him. “Look!” said Tiny, holding up the cover of the book as they walked away into the distance, “It’s you Frik! It’s you!”

It is no accident that the All Blacks’ dominance of the global game has coincided with the rise to prominence of their own big men, the second-row partnership of Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock. They took over the mantle of ‘best in the world’ from Bokke pairing Victor Matfield and Bakkies Botha.

(AFP Photo/Franck Fife)

New Zealand coach Steve Hansen thinks it is the best combination he has seen.

“I think it is probably the best locking combination we have had… When they are both on form, they are pretty special players. Retallick is from outer space and Sammy is not too far behind him.”

Pitched against the backdrop of Meads and Sam Strahan, Andy Haden and Gary Whetton, and Robin Brooke and Ian Jones, that is high praise indeed.

A couple of weekends ago in Dublin, Ireland matched and surpassed that pair, at least for 80 minutes, and that effort had a big hand in winning them the game.

At the heart of their success was a young Dubliner from Blackrock, 22-year-old James Ryan. Ryan was the captain of the Ireland under 20s when they beat New Zealand for the first time in their history at the 2016 World Championships. One short year later, he found himself chosen for the senior team by coach Joe Schmidt. One year after that, he is part of the first Irish side ever to beat the All Blacks in Dublin.

Like Naude, Ryan appears to be one of those big men associated with some important moments in rugby history. Perhaps it is something in the stars.

Matches in which Brodie Retallick gets outworked by his opposite number can usually be counted on the fingers of, well, one finger, but the game in Dublin was an exception to this ironclad rule. Ryan carried on 17 occasions to Retallick’s nine, and completed 20 tackles to Retallick’s 14.

On the carry, Ryan was Ireland’s outstanding forward:

The tip-on pass from Tadhg Furlong to Ryan catches the All Blacks first receiver defence out of position, and Ryan is able to break the tackle of Karl Tuiniku’afe to make extra metres after first contact, leaving Retallick an onlooker at the ruck.

Ryan’s ability to use his feet well, find a seam and drive through contact were a feature of the first period:

Signs of frustration from Retallick appeared early on, as he was unable to establish the dominance over his opposite number to which he has become accustomed:

Ryan also judged the moments when to run, and when to pass out of first receiver very well. In the following example, he combines with second-row partner Dev Toner, drawing the first two All Black defenders with an angled run and releasing CJ Stander through the hole outside them:

One of Brodie Retallick’s unique points of difference has always been his other-worldly ability to deliver accurate passes and decisions out of the forward pod beyond the number 10.

Ireland made sure they shut down his distributing opportunities early on:

This was Toner and Ryan, driving up hard to close the space in midfield and create a turnover.

As the match, and the speed and physicality of Ireland’s midfield rush, developed, Retallick became more gun-shy. He coughed up the ball to Rory Best in the middle of the second half:

And then at the death, with the All Blacks threatening a repeat of their last-ditch heroics in Dublin five years previously:

On the day, James Ryan and Dev Toner were just that little bit sharper and more accurate in everything they did than the great All Black pair:

At this New Zealand maul, the main two power blocks (Retallick and Whitelock) are up in the air, while Ryan is in a good horizontal driving position opposite them, with Toner containing any movement around the openside corner. It was a moment symbolic of the events in Dublin as a whole.

Summary
Rugby supporters across the world remember the battles of the big men, the battles of the titans. Near the end of his life, Tiny Naude remembered them too – the battles with Colin Meads, the comradeship of Frik du Preez. The sight of his great friend du Preez helped make life clear and worthwhile once more, at least for a few moments.

South Africa’s periods of rugby success, in the amateur and professional eras alike, have always been built around the stature and prowess of their big men. That has been their foundation.

Only when players came along who could match or surpass them did the Bokke falter. Ever since the break-up of the Botha-Matfield partnership, it has been a story of New Zealand dominance based on the platform of second rows Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock – perhaps the finest combination in even New Zealand’s illustrious history; maybe the best ever.

The last two rounds of the end-of-year tour have shown that the true challenge to Sir Brodie Retallick, the champion of the global second-row order, may in future come from Ireland rather than England, from James Ryan rather than Maro Itoje. Whatever the claims of England coach Eddie Jones, Itoje is not there yet.

(Photo: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images)

It promises to be a joust for the ages between those three at the World Cup, while Eben Etzebeth and Alun-Wyn Jones will want to have a real say in matters too.

The preliminaries will kick off with the opening match of the 2019 Six Nations in Dublin, when England travel to meet Ireland, and Ryan opposes Itoje. It promises to be a battle well worth the remembering, even if neither (unlike Tiny Naude) will be called upon to kick a goal out of a mud-heap!

The Crowd Says:

2018-12-18T09:50:44+00:00

Kirky

Roar Rookie


Worry not about Aaron Smith's form of late as he was no different to any other All Black player, ~ he had a lot of hard and extremely tough rugby before he ever went on that Northern tour, and in fact he certainly wasn't the only one,`~ because I don't remember so many All Black Players playing as much woeful and inept rugby as they did in that Irish game, it showed as the uncharacteristic mistakes that were as a rule a given to succeed, didn't happen! Take nothing away from the Irish it was a spirited display, but if the All Blacks had played as we all know they can and eliminated just a few of the ridiculous mistakes they as a rule usually take as a norm, and play the complete All Black game as normal, that game would no doubt have had a very different result! ~ Ireland did only win by 6 points did they not? They will all be semi resting right now and will shortly be into Camp preparing for the Big One next year hopefully all fit and raring to go!

AUTHOR

2018-12-16T08:37:43+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Good to hear from you Thugs... ...and good point about the need to reinforce skill levels at every session. But the work done in international camps should be essentially about reinforcing those skills, not creating them! There has to be that background earlier in rugby life...

2018-12-15T07:02:45+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


G’day Nicolas, great article as always. And haven’t Ireland put the cat among the pigeons with such a well played victory over the Champs? Even when Ireland toured Australia in June, it was obvious their major strength lay in a tight pack of piggies all doing their core duties wonderfully well. For such a talented and well-coached group they really don’t score that many tries (even the WB outscored Ire in tries in the 2018 June series). However a solid rush defence that’s tighter than a fish’s Ahole, and game management by their halves ensures the game is going to be a TEST for their opposition. Just changing the subject to a WB perspective, there is an article on the RA website quoting a lock from Scotland (Murray Douglas) who has recently played SR for both the Rebels and Chiefs. He suggests it’s not some “magic sauce” involved in NZ’s run of SR success but a big reason is the constant skills work starting at juniors and continuing right up to the SR levels (and beyond). No slacking on skills sessions during pre-season, it’s a full-on constant aim to improve each individual’s skills pretty much all year round. Perhaps RA should look at this aspect also in their “great December Review”. ????

2018-12-15T03:03:17+00:00

somer

Guest


Nick, we obviously have differing ideas about international rugby. For me, it's about the best home-grown talent your nation can produce and going to war, not about stacking your ranks with opportunistic ring-ins via dubious eligibility rules. I know national pride is an out of favor concept but that's the whole point and anything else is hypocritical. Watch club rugby if you like market freedom and dislike the intractability of where you were born and bred. If Aki and Stander weren't good enough to represent their nation, then tough, they can join the 99.9% who also weren't good enough.

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2018-12-14T20:39:25+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


I doubt 'poaching' is any more appropriate a term for these 'project players' then it is for the Australasian conscription of Pacific island talent... Aki and Stander were not wanted in their countries of birth, so why so they not further their careers elsewhere?

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2018-12-14T20:35:27+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Compared to even teams in the recent Ireland past, it it the mobility and enhanced skilss of the tight five that is making most of the diff... :)

2018-12-14T19:57:56+00:00

Superba

Guest


I remember quite clearly a headline in an Afrikaans newspaper after the Boks lost one particular test to the BLs on that tour . It read " Sies wat 'n k#ff#rpak " . Tbh I was shocked at that headline but it says a lot about how good the BL side was .

2018-12-14T19:28:36+00:00

Superba

Guest


Nicholas are you not referring to Sharpe who had his jaw broken early in that tour .Not 100% sure if memory serves me correctly !

2018-12-14T15:12:03+00:00

CUW

Roar Rookie


it will be interesting to see who plays in centers for BLUES they have 3 tanks - Nonu around 110kg , SBW around 115kg and Aumua around 120kg then they have TJ Faiane who led Auckland in the last few matches. so will they play SBW and NONU together? or SBW/Nonu with Aumua? Leon mcDonald is a different coach - so

2018-12-14T12:20:35+00:00

Superba

Guest


@ CUW Your comment re Snyman blocking out the sun reminds me of a comment by a colleague who met Bakkies Botha in his office .When I asked him how big BB was he said " he filled the entire doorway ".

2018-12-14T12:04:52+00:00

Conor Wilson

Roar Pro


It was. I don't think i've ever seen such a desperate determination in a defensive effort before. Who were your standout performers? I thought O'Mahony was absolutely immense. As was Ryan. Leinster academy is doing something right clearly! If players like him are in the production line.

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2018-12-14T07:30:23+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


In all honesty they were tired and out of form, as every player is from time to time T-man. All we can say is that Ireland are continuing to improve, an improvement I hope they sustain. The more good teams in international rugby, and the more competitive it is, the better for the game as a whole - that will help keep the English/French club owners at bay!

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2018-12-14T07:27:22+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Yep - NO.

AUTHOR

2018-12-14T07:26:38+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


yep, I think we should add a few plants over there... :)

2018-12-14T04:41:24+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


I can even do this! http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/springbok-analysis-horses-mouth/ though I think GAGR like links back to here, though

2018-12-14T04:35:49+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Start of the season, home crowd , average officiating and every 50/50 call. And still the abs could have won easily if chances had been taken.

2018-12-14T04:34:17+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Left foot not right.

2018-12-14T04:33:08+00:00

Phantom

Roar Rookie


Furlong got show up at scrum time when the ref stood on his side. He is a modern myth.

2018-12-13T23:46:25+00:00

taylorman

Roar Guru


Big diff is SA did it here, on our home turf during a primary still alive tournament, and the win put the winners of the RC in doubt. Ireland did well in Chicago but other than that are average away, their 2-1 win in Oz hardly awe inspiring stuff. They look good but no better than Oz and SA have looked many times in the past while seated at number 2. Last year the threats were supposedly England and Itoje vs the ABs and Retallick, this year its Ireland and Ryan. Next year? Irelands true depth will be revealed when Sexton, Murray, SOB, Kearney, Furlong etc retire. In four years will they have the same calibre players. based on their 90's efforts (Pot Hales alarming list of failures) they can have periods where they have no decent players at all. Next year is world cup year, when cream rises. Telling players like Whitelock, Smith, Retallick etc that theyre tired and out of form is the best thing that can happen at this point in time.

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2018-12-13T21:07:55+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Good to hear from you Wombat - and look forward to more contributions in future... Enoka and Wayne Smith were maybe the greatest point of diff in the AB dominance of the past few years - and neither has been replaced satisfactorily...

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