Has Turkish rugby flown the coop?

By Istanbul Wingman / Roar Guru

Rugby union has a battle on its hands to retain a fledgling player community on the margins of Europe, with Turkey the latest to succumb to the superior charms of the 13-man code.

Just a few years ago, the Crescent Stars were making waves in European 2D competition, defeating all of their rivals at one time or another.

This included Bulgaria, a nation which has been competing regularly in Europe for more than half a century.

But in 2017, Turkey was banned from competition due to a failure to comply with European regulations. Apparently this had something to do with the multi-sport nature of the national administration, which also runs American football, baseball and softball.

Unsurprisingly, the result was a sudden drop in playing numbers. But just as the French first turned to league when banned from the Five Nations in the pre-war era, a sizable chunk of the Turkish rugby community has now headed in the same direction – led by a Frenchman!

Julien Treu has been involved with Turkish rugby for the past decade, rebuilding the Kadikoy club on the Asian shores of Istanbul’s Bosporus Strait and taking them to a national semi-final.

He is a former Netherlands international who once faced Georgia’s Lelos, in fact, qualifying through his Dutch father. He started out in a player-coach capacity with Kadikoy, but is confined these days to the latter role.

With Turkey out of European competition, Treu was desperate to keep his players active and motivated. Rugby league provided the ideal answer, especially as a Balkans super league got underway the same year.

No sooner had Treu set up his Kadikoy Bulls team than fixtures with Balkans opposition were organised. The Bulls, along with Ankara’s Phrygians, are now part of a 14-team league which includes clubs from Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, Greece and Italy.

Moreover, the Turkish national team was invited to compete in rugby league’s Emerging Nations World Cup in Australia last year, where they finished seventh, thumping Japan 60-0 along the way.

On the domestic scene, Turkey now has a ten-team national league, divided into two conferences, which are currently being led by the Bulls and Phrygians.

Meanwhile, the senior rugby union competition in Turkey has dropped from 14 teams and two divisions to a single division of seven teams – plagued by defaults and blowout scores.

Perennial champions Middle Eastern Technical University of Ankara are again atop the ladder, though a few weeks ago they were stunned 47-19 by Istanbul’s Ottomans, a club comprised largely of expats.

Another team from the capital, Haceteppe, are in second place, followed by Trakya from Edirne near the Greek border. The Ottomans and Eskisehir from near Ankara lie mid-table, while Istanbul suburban team Firuzkoy and Mugla from the Mediterranean region are yet to register a point.

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There is no representation from Turkey’s third, fourth or fifth-largest cities, the Black Sea region (once on the rise), nor the entire eastern half of the country.

Added to this picture of gloom is the absence of any organised age-grade competition, notwithstanding various sevens tournaments.

The Turkish national team, meanwhile, is back in the European development competition, where the regulations evidently serve as no impediment. In their first hit-out of 2019, a couple of weeks ago, they crushed Estonia 61-20.

This is a return to the somewhat farcical situation of six or seven years ago, when they were thrashing teams like Slovakia and Azerbaijan, along with Estonia itself. In fact, their average score in the development league overall is about 46-6 and no team has got within 26 points of them.

It also appears that their only other opponent, Montenegro, has withdrawn from competition, meaning Turkey’s return-match with Estonia at the end of May will be their only other match in Europe this year.

This should be cause for concern among the global rugby community. It would be a shame to lose a nation with such vast potential as Turkey to the rival code.

They have a young population of 80 million and an unbridled passion for sport, while their history in wrestling and other power-based events suggest all the right physical requirements to excel in rugby.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2019-05-03T13:46:16+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Nigeria v Ghana off again, unfortunately. Nigeria seems to be having trouble getting organized. They were banned until recently for lack of a domestic comp. Sri Lanka thrashed the Malaysian Baabaas yesterday but I suspect tomorrow will be a different story when they face the test side. British Virgins v Turks & Caicos now scheduled for a 10am kickoff. Should be some close games.

AUTHOR

2019-05-03T13:42:10+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Yeah, we're running a prediction comp here https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/roonbafr/rugby-union-f63/ and were all thrown by this one. I watched the second half and just seemed like Pakistan were more interested in defending their aggregate than going for the win. They played rugby at the end when it mattered, and go up anyway.

2019-05-03T11:21:51+00:00

Aussieinexile

Roar Rookie


Big weekend across T2 Rugby: Nigeria v Ghana, Hungary v Luxembourg, Latvia v Denmark, Malaysia v Srilanka, Gibraltar v Sweden, British Island v Turks and Caicos

2019-05-03T11:19:31+00:00

Aussieinexile

Roar Rookie


I was surprised about the result.. I thought that Pakistan would have done the double.

2019-05-03T08:59:09+00:00

Rugby Lover

Roar Rookie


Did you know that Nigeria is going Rugby league, 10 union clubs turned their back to Union. They will be hosting the MEA rugby league competition this year.

2019-05-03T08:56:52+00:00

Rugby Lover

Roar Rookie


This is where İ disagree with you, İ clearly see Turkish rugby league went through all the steps to get recognition, observer, affiliates, development... where the rugby union federation faked their steps in and still managed to get in. They were not banned from missing criteria actually they were not even audited by Rugby europe while being part of it for more than 6 years. They were banned for only 2 games of 15 aside because they didnt travel to play their game.

AUTHOR

2019-05-03T08:31:28+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Sanity has prevailed. Virgins v Turks will now kick off at the more civilized hour of 10am.

AUTHOR

2019-05-02T21:07:47+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Nigeria against postpones its test match with Ghana. You'd think a nation of 200 million might be able to get a team together. . .

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T22:30:23+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


That may happen. They're doing a load of travel right now. Been putting my Spanish to good use today reading all the articles about the new South American pro league. It will be known as SLAR and looks like the clubs will be one from Argentina, two from Brazil, Chile's Catholica University and both Penerol and Nacional playing out of Charrua Stadium in the Uruguayan capital, interestingly. Paraguay's Olimpia and a probable Colombian entry are slated for expansion in 2021

2019-05-01T21:47:08+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


hmmm as much as I like seeing an Argentinean team in Super Rugby, to some degree I wonder if this development, is not opportunity for Arg to back step into its own time zone ( but keep up annual participation in rugby champs). ie multiple arg team leading the standard there

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T21:13:28+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Well, played by men too overweight for soccer is fairly universal, Stavy, to be fair...

2019-05-01T20:30:58+00:00

Stavy

Guest


Craig if you want a good laugh check out the pictures of the Balkan Super League. They use duct tape for lines and the goal posts are made up of soccer and pvc pipe.. Played by men too overweight for soccer

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T15:38:07+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Read another article about it in Spanish today. Argentina is very keen to have a back-up pro squad to the Jaguares. They will therefore enter one team only in the proposed South American league. Brazil wants two, apparently.

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T14:22:32+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Apparently Pakistan gain promotion to the second division on aggregate. So those two late tries to Pakistan were vitally important, as the Uzbeks were within a sniff of overhauling their first test deficit at that point. Put it this way, if the visitors had scored twice at the end, instead of the hosts, they would have gone up.

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T14:08:05+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Amazing turnaround in Lahore today. Uzbekistan avenged Sundays 44-13 loss to Pakistan with a 38-24 win. The home-team's kicking was diabolical today but they regained a little respectability with two late tries out wide. Series drawn.

AUTHOR

2019-05-01T13:45:00+00:00

Istanbul Wingman

Roar Guru


Well, rugby union has 7s for simplicity. Doesn't come much simpler, in fact.

2019-05-01T09:57:03+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Heard it all before Peter. The same old school mantra . Sometimes simplicity can be beautiful to watch and engaging. If variety involves a multitude of stifling rules and stifling of flow, leave me out of it.And I have done just that many years ago.With no regrets.

2019-05-01T08:41:52+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


Last night watched the CNN World Rugby programmer. Gave an excellent insight into Mongolian rugby. Also a few weeks ago picked up on the news here that Bok legend Naas Botha to captain the Indian women's team. Thought it was an April fools thing. But not. He showed surprise on the same programme at the relatively good standard. I was just surprised about it all.

2019-05-01T02:20:36+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


Soccer is said to be a very simple game with few rules. I wonder how popular that game is. I haven't checked lately. Union is said to be an excellent game spoiled by too many rules.

2019-05-01T00:59:51+00:00

Craigo

Guest


@PeterK "for people who don’t want any variety or depth but love simplicity" Yes, that old union chestnut. "You must be simple to watch Rugby League". Well, I went to one of those GPS school in the 1980s and have been hearing that BS for 35 years. Why on earth would you want a game to be complicated? It's killed the game in Australia and now Turkey. How long before RL takes Fiji, Togan, and Samoa?

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