Samoa to approach Sonny Bill Williams for international league return

The Tongan govt after RL money like the Fijian Govt who got $15m for RL (Fitz a Nine employee never mentions this when whinging about Govt spending on other things) but perhaps an offset for the fed Govt giving money to Swans academy at the Showground.

I reread your comment and I hope CC takes note you admit that the rules are crazy and my example holds up but why not a frenchman playing for Qld! The rules were allegedly tightened in 2012 (30 years after the start)! after such examples as Tonie Carroll playing for NZ then Qld then NZ making it a joke but they still have more holes than the Mexican wall. Raffertys rules and even though he's Irish he could worm his way into the NSW squad. As CC, threw his hands up and said in hopelessness and desperation, ""rl fans realise the eligibility at times for their code needs to be better ,but that is the cards they are dealt with."??? Whose dealing the cards other than RL administrators perpetrating a fraud. Its a joke - on o/s CC imagine the AFL had internationals between Greece, Italy, Croatia based upon where their fathers or grandparents came from and the players have never lived - people would laugh so they rightly don't. The RU players actually live in the country they represent - whether they stay there is another matter but lines up in the future with soccer rules.

You haven't tackled the main point. It is supposed to be State of Origin between NSW and Qld not NSW/ACT which is what other codes do when there are a combination of 2 areas. and they aren't State of Origin. Nowhere in the rules does it say ACT can play for NSW apart from representing NSW under 18 and under 20 (bizarre in itself) which aren't State of Origin. My example of a Melbourne 18 yo kid moving to and playing the ACT and being picked in NSW SOO holds up because NSW under 18/20 isn't State of Origin rules otherwise Vaughan and Cotric aren't eligible. Whereas a kid playing 12 years in Canberra comp isn't eligible for NSW SOO unless picked in NSW under 18/20 because there is I REPEAT nothing about ACT in the rules so he therefore isn't eligible - Can you show me evidence of the ACT rule or does RL not have rules?

Still here, no further evidence (not that I need to provide any) from what i tried to explain to you previously Mama. No matter what I tell you, you're not going to be satisfied, and want to complain about a few RL players ( less than 5 players since the inception of Rugby League SOO) who grew up in the ACT, played their junior years in a competition administered by the NSW CRL, and through hard work have been selected to rep NSW in Origin (rightly or wrongly). I've informed you of the rules, if you don't want yo accept them thats your prerogative. I'll sit back and enjoy the local kids playing in the ACT juniors growing up knowing that if they are good enough RL players they may, one day be selected to play for NSW in an Origin game. PS: I'm no plant from RL HQ like you implied. Just a passionate RL fan who occasionally gets fed up with fans of other codes whinging about the game I love.

Blah blah blah. They are not heritage, so their ties are not emotional or descendent to the new country they now play for.Compared to those that have that. You can throw up all the rules and regulations, facts are ru journos and indeed the PI countries are not happy with the ru setup.It has been put out in print and is on the internet. What you can't get through your noggin, rl fans realise the eligibility at times for their code needs to be better ,but that is the cards they are dealt with. The Tongan Govt people,Govt are extremely happy with the result ,hence they declared a public holiday and the players are going there to celebrate. SOO is what it is, and the NSWRL is involved in that area.What that has to do with country qualifications is chalk and cheese.You can crap on as much as you wish. SOO will continue and get crowds ,TV ratings and TV monies. RLWC will continue as the code grows slowly around the world.The qualifying rounds played in Europe involved majority local born players, the Cup itself will have large numbers of heritage. You can bag it( as you do), and it isn't going to change a thing, nor convince me.At the same time I will continue to be a little more cynical about ru and its residential rules.If you can't make it (national)at home, move to another country for a few years and make it at the expense of local born.

BTW nearly 100% of the Tongan, Samoan, Fijian players in the recent Oceania Cup (incl Great britain harking back to their colonial days??) have never played an international on their alleged home soil and only a small percentage were born, live, are residentially qualified (3 or 5) or live there.

The article you mention finally mentions that the RU will have 5 year residency rule (as in Soccer but their rules are rubbery given how some players have managed to turn out for Socceroos). All the players playing at the RWC had at least 3 year residency rule or heritage. The difference in RL is that all the Tongan players for example come from Australia/NZ and have never played a test match there and swap between Tier 1 and 2 countries under you know a flag of convenience. RU players cannot change once they have played for one country. Will Tonga (110K) become Tier 1 now as they supplant France (60m) who end up playing and brawling with part-timers in Parkes. Perhaps you could help out on other RL eligibility as you seem to be an expert as Amaroo eagle (probably from RL central) has disappeared since I asked him to produce evidence that allow ACT players to play for NSW in you know State of Origin - no residency, heritage exceptions allowed in rules there except under18/20 representation which limits representation to young rep players and not to ACT residents in general.

LOL RaroAuz. Well better have a chat with the Tongan Govt and their King, because they have declared a public holiday in Tonga over the victory and the team will be invited to help celebrate. And RU authorities on these pacific Islands are now complaining they could not use heritage players in the RWC,so they were less than competitive. I suggest you look at the fact only 3 RU countries had all local born players, the remainder had 25% non locals. Now that can be called amusing.But a resident is better ,than someone with heritage sheesh.

mama.Still feeling uneasy once again.Insecure about SBW, insecure about Tongan RL, insecure about RL eligibility, insecure about SOO eligibility. Bit of advice mate, you need to have a chat with Raelene Castle,the natives are getting restless. You came here(with one of your aliases)bearing in mind with your historical bagging the eligibility of rugby league, which few deny we'd rather local born.Get it through your head it will remain that way till they get more players involved locally.RL authorities are going to take zero notice of your sniping. Then when you are given the facts ,such as those above re the RWC, in addition there are growing complaints by ru journalists and fans consider it a joke, that in fact the only 3 countries had local born players, and yet it was all OK . Considering ru is far bigger around the world, they should have a lot more local born players.The Pacific Islands ru authorities are complaining they can't use heritage players in the RWC,as they continue to get beaten.Again you should ask them. And FYI the Tongan Govt with the King's approval has announced a public holiday as a result of the victory over the Kangaroos and the players will be invited back to the Island to be involved.Th effect of these victories has resulted in rl growing strongly in Tonga ,now into schools. So much for bagging the Tongan rl set up.I take notice of them ,not someone who hates rl, and uses many names. Residential rule,OK send half a dozen players over to say Japan and after a a small number of year they became eligible to play for Japan, and and then become Japanese national players and make that team really competitive.Yeah right LOL.

CC As if you don't know they are eligible under the residency rule but majority are home grown unlike RL (Tonga "heritage" players who may one day play at home sheesh). Amaroo eagle As far as ACT for Soo have you read the SOO eligibility flowchart?, you have to have been born in NSW or Qld or played the majority before 13 - there is absolutely no mention of the ACT in the rules just the out for Under 18/20s rep which gets Cotric and Vaughan in bizarrely. The Melbourne conscript can play in the NSW under 20s if he is playing in the ACT comp according to your contradictory logic so then is eligible for SOO. I repeat there is no mention of ACT in the rules (its NSW or Qld)

Mama You’ve brought the same issues up before, under other aliases yawn. Glad you mentioned “flag of convenience.” for rl. With just a touch of “irony” the following:- Under the heading 25% of players at the 2019 RWC were born in 3 countries ,and only 3 of the 20 squads competing in Japan contained no foreign-born players. The source :- https://www.iol.co.za/sport/partnered/25-of-players-at-the-2019-rugby-world-cup-were-born-in-3-countries-33846406 Perhaps one should look in other backyards ,to see where other dogs are barking.

Mama. Of course,I’m not going to suggest a Roar contributor/s (fill in the blanks)derided the decision about the introduction of the Wolfpack, if they didn’t do so. Go back though the Roar archives, when the Wolfpack’s genesis came to the fore ,the various negative comments were there for all to see. Refer me to the actual comment ,where I stated Hayne would fix everything, not hearsay which you are famous for? Waiting…… Yep SBW has been injured ,as has quite a few NRL players like Tom Turbo,Graham at the Sharks,Sam Burgess.It’s a contact sport sh… happens.And the ESL is nowhere near as demanding or defence orientated as the NRL. 34 so what,Gallen was 36 +. And you are once again comparing Hayne with SBW ,as to their marketing value, profile and what they would bring to a club or a competition, just laughable. How many media outlets in the UK, Canada,or even NY made note of Hayne’s signing? The signing of SBW to a RL franchise (regardless of the final results of his entry) ,has certainly got under your skin.

'International' League is a joke. Tonga are basically a team of turn-coat Aussies and Kiwis of Island heritage who have basically slapped the systems that brought them through in the face for a country most of them probably only set foot in for a holiday. Given that the 'Samoan' squad at the rugby world cup was 14 Kiwis, 7 Aussies, 10 born in Samoa only 2 (!) of whom had lived in the Islands past the age of 5, that's just as much of a joke. Tonga aren't much better. The idea behind competition is supposed to be about gauging the strength of players FROM those countries, not how many players from other countries the Islands can poach. Ironic isn't it, given all the poaching claims over the years.

It makes no mention of it because as I mentioned previously the ACT Rugby League competition is governed by NSW Country Rugby League (CRL).. Therefore, any ACT registered player is available to play for NSW in SOO. Why is that so hard to understand? Your example of a Victorian player is incorrect,unless they move to the ACT before their 13th birthday, as the game in Victoria is looked after by the VRL.

You are quoting someone else to make your story - SBW has been constantly injured and is 34 but you said that Hayne would fix everything. Went well I thought.

The rules flowchart on the NRL site make no mention of ACT RL but rather where you played your footy before 13 and it must be NSW residency (not ACT). There is a sidebar saying if they are selected for NSW under 18 and under 20 (not State of Origin!) then they are eligible as Canberra born and bred players Vaughan and Cotric were which is crazy - I could be born in Melbourne and get a Raiders scholarship at 18 and then get selected for NSW under 18 (not SOO) and become eligible for SOO but if I have played in the Canberra comp all my life and don't get selected for NSW 18s or 20s then I am not eligible. So your reasoning is incorrect and the eligibility rules are stupid. But this is RL

The Titans are saved and still going, privately owned and firmly planted in SEQ. Both Hayne and Idris were always up and down players, inconstent. SBW plays to the full all the time. But we were told here when the Wolfpack first started ,get back in 2 years if they are still around LOL. Last para again wrong ,I've have never stated either of those two guys would save the Titans.I stated Hayne would be good for marketing ATT, and he was ,but that's it.

Samoa usually take to the field looking fat and disinterested, regardless of who is in the team. Things have gone downhill alarmingly since they played so well in 2013-14. I think it might be time for Matt Parish to move on.

Because the ACT Rugby League competition (the Canberra Cup) is under the control of CRL and soon to be NSWRL, when they merge with CRL next year.

I wish him well but get back to me in 2 years when he has finished and we can evaluate - remember how Jarryd Hayne and before him Jamal Idris were going to save the Titans - I think you said.