Where to next for the Panthers and Raiders?

By Jaydem Martin / Roar Rookie

The 1990 NSWRL grand final between the Penrith Panthers and Canberra Raiders saw the mountain men reach their first decider after joining the competition in 1967.

The previous two seasons would see the Panthers finish both years in the finals. The year earlier they would be defeated by the Raiders in a semi-final before the Raiders went on to win their maiden premiership in what many considered to be the greatest decider of all time against the Balmain Tigers.

There was a strong feeling that Penrith were on the verge of something special. Phil Gould had made his way to the foot of the mountains to take the helm of a club he once played for. He came in as a premiership-winning coach after taking the Bulldogs to glory in 1988. Two weeks earlier the Panthers defeated the Raiders 30-12 in a semi-final that would give them a week off and send them straight into the grand final.

It had the potential for the ultimate fairytale. The ruthless Raiders were one of the most dominant sides at the time with the likes of Mal Meninga, Laurie Daley, Ricky Stuart, Glenn Lazarus and Steve Walters coached by the great Tim Sheens.

Canberra racked up the silverware in the late ’80s and early ’90s. (Photo by Getty Images)

However, Penrith boasted players such as Greg Alexander, John Cartwright, Brad Fittler and Royce Simmons among other greats. It had all the ingredients for a classic grand final. Ultimately the Panthers would come up short, losing by four points to the Raiders as Canberra fans rejoiced knowing that Winfield Cup would be remaining in the nation’s capital for another year.

The 1991 season would bring Phil Gould one of his greatest challenges: to get his men to do all the hard work again and get back to playing in a grand final. Sporting a new look, going from the chocolate soldiers to the liquorice all sorts, the Panthers would finish the year as minor premiers for their first time in history. Then after winning a close match against the North Sydney Bears, they were once again in a decider, looking to write a redemption story.

It would be a repeat of the previous decider against the Canberra Raiders, but this time they were more prepared, more ready to handle the Raiders’ dominance and put them to the sword. With it being the final game of Royce Simmons’ career, his teammates were hellbent on sending him out a winner. With the scores locked at 12-12, Greg Alexander successfully landed a field goal to give his team the one-point advantage. And then the iconic moment came when Royce crossed the line for the final try of the match and the last try of his career. Penrith had won their first premiership.

For the Panthers, they didn’t reach those heights again until the 2003 grand final – 1991 was the peak of their golden era. Whereas the Raiders continued their dominance, picking up another grand final victory in 1994 – their last. Both sides’ most successful years came around the same time in the late ’80s and early ’90s. They met again at certain points throughout the decades. Some of their biggest matches were meeting each other in the 2000 finals series and the 2010 finals series.

In recent times they faced each other in a semi-final match in 2016, a successful season for both teams, but it would be the Raiders ending the year for the Panthers. The two sides met in a memorable match in Bathurst with a classic ending that saw the Panthers score twice in the final three minutes to grab the win. As we get closer to the start of a new decade, and a new season in the NRL, what chapter will be written in the Panthers versus Raiders rivalry next?

Canberra came so close to winning their first premiership in over 20 years against the Roosters in 2019. Like the Panthers of 1990, the Raiders entered that decider with a lot of momentum on their side. The English contingent added the toughness they needed to win the big one.

Unfortunately for them, it didn’t eventuate. For Ricky Stuart, he faces the task of getting his troops’ mentally and physically prepared to do all the hard work again and get themselves back in a position for a shot at glory. With George Williams being signed to the Raiders for the 2020 season, he could be the player needed to add that extra spark of creativity to bring them the ultimate success.

After the Raiders went deep into the finals in the 2016 season, they struggled in following seasons. It wasn’t until 2019 that they were back playing finals footy. Consistency has been the Achilles heel of Canberra. They have a strong enough side to win the premiership. The question is not a lack of skill or not being physically strong enough, but rather their mental resolve to overcome the controversy of their grand final loss and whether they have the patience to win on defence and become the first premiers of the new decade.

The Panthers of 2019 ended up being a disappointment.

Josh Papalii scores at Penrith during the 2019 campaign. (Photo by Jason McCawley/Getty Images)

Off-field drama and injuries disrupted Penrith and they failed to reach the finals for the first time since 2015. Some experts aren’t giving Penrith much of a chance in 2020, but with Jarome Luai set to partner Nathan Cleary in the halves, Api Koroisau returning to his former club as hooker and Trent Barrett coming back as an assistant coach, Penrith might have the creativity in attack they’ve been looking for, which could potentially be a dangerous threat to their opposition. It’s difficult to predict if they are going to be a top-four team or not, but they have a side that could make it back to the finals.

Historically the Panthers seem to do well when they are tipped not to do well. The best example was the Cinderella story of 2003.

Recently, when they had a horrid year in 2015, they were able to bounce back the next year and have a good season. The Panthers will be looking to put 2019 at the back of their minds and start their new decade with a bang. The Cleary and Luai combination should add a lot and they’ll complement each other. As the season progresses, Cleary, Luai, Koroisau and Dylan Edwards could become one of the more lethal spines in the competition.

There’s a chance that the Panthers and Raiders could once again meet in the finals. Both boast strong teams on paper and as long as off-field drama and injuries don’t get in the way, then the possibility of both teams meeting each other in September is likely with another chapter being written in the rivalry of the Panthers versus the Raiders.

The Crowd Says:

2020-01-08T02:36:57+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


They were even with a few minutes to go and in a position to kick a field and the 6 to go signal stopped that. The referee's call was the reason it happened so it isn't wrong to say the refs cost them the win. You couldn't find another incident where the refs cost a team a match because this one was unique. Maybe the 1963 grand final where the ref ruled John King was allowed to get up and run with a defensive hand on him.

2019-12-27T05:06:26+00:00

Taree Raider

Guest


The Roosters don't have Cooper Cronk, they won both grand finals because of his influence. The Raiders now at long, long, long last have a real halfback, George Williams. He can defend, kick tactically, control a game, get repeat sets. How would the Roosters have gone with Cronk playing for the Raiders & Seizer playing for the Chooks. In the big dance this year? Raiders win, simple as that. The Storm are on the decline, Cameron Smith's win rate average is about to take a hit. The Roosters won't be as good. Sea Eagles will prosper. Souths have Jai Arrow & Latrel? Can't wait for 2020 to play out.

2019-12-27T00:26:59+00:00

Cyril Snodgrass

Guest


Canberra are stuffed Ricky Stuart has now lost 3 grand finals in a row The Roosters beat the Raiders 3 times this year...Robbo has Rick'ys measure Themental scars which Stuart must have, would really hurt...Big Time

2019-12-24T00:25:49+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Not a bad ladder. I have reservations about the Rabbitohs until they find a Sam Burgess replacement. As it stands I don't have them in the top 4 and potentially missing the 8. Tigers and Warriors are also up against it with their current squads. I'd have my Dragons in their somewhere I think Mary will be forced to make bold choices as far as team selections as his job is firmly on the line.

2019-12-23T12:16:16+00:00

Walter White

Guest


Hi Adam. Yeah, whilst on paper they have improved their squad with Williams being a great addition and in theory they should do better than last year but I don't think they will. I think teams will be better prepared for them in 2020 and this will cost them a few places on the ladder. As I said, they will still play finals footy but from outside the top 4. My predictions 1. Roosters 2. Souths 3. Manly 4. Storm 5. Eels 6. Raiders 7. Tigers 8. Warriors

2019-12-23T11:45:45+00:00

Blackfoot

Guest


They got a bad call , but to say the refs cost them the win is a stretch .

2019-12-23T07:00:05+00:00

Adam Bagnall

Roar Guru


Interesting you say that. They've lost a winger in Rapana and an average halfback in sezer, but added a quality player in George Williams but you have them going backwards? I think they'll actually improve and be in the top 4 for most of the year

AUTHOR

2019-12-23T05:45:55+00:00

Jaydem Martin

Roar Rookie


Agree about Naden. I'm from the same home town as him so I might be a bit bias, but I think he will have a stand out year even if Penrith struggle.

AUTHOR

2019-12-23T05:41:52+00:00

Jaydem Martin

Roar Rookie


That's what I'm curious about most is how they address the GF loss and if they have the motivation to get back there again. If they are in the mindset that they were robbed I feel it could have a negative effect on their season, but it'll be interesting to see how they go.

AUTHOR

2019-12-23T05:32:36+00:00

Jaydem Martin

Roar Rookie


I was thinking the other day where Jimmy would rank in best players of the decade, when it comes to success and influence, I would have him in the top 10. I'm guessing it's more that he is a pain to deal with day to day.

2019-12-23T04:58:59+00:00

Walter White

Guest


Williams has been great with Wigan and should be a very good addition for the Raiders. The Raiders had a brilliant season last year due in part to : 1. The addition of Bateman as a complete unknown but brilliant entity into the squad 2. Flying under the radar a little. Teams always lift for Storm and Roosters games but they were under estimating the Raiders right though to the finals, 3. A run of good luck when they needed it. The addition of Williams is good but I think that the Raiders will fall back a little this year. Still a shoo in for finals footy but not top 4 I am afraid.

2019-12-22T04:56:09+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


I think Maloney gets itchy feet as well.

2019-12-22T02:32:34+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


The funniest was one trying to diminish Easts dominance with "they played an out of form St-George-Illawarra". They only showed their form against theTitans.

2019-12-22T01:55:06+00:00

Bossbaybee

Guest


St-George-Illawarra will stop them ....Funniest response ive read in some time . :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2019-12-22T01:29:34+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


They didn't need anyone to tell them the ref ruling 6 to go cost them the game. The refs made an unfortunate error and Easts got lucky. They were in the position to take the luck as it was a very close game and they fought hard all the way. Will they be able to do it again next year and make it 3 in a row? I don't think St-George-Illawarra will stop them so it looks like Canberra will have to do it.

2019-12-21T23:15:14+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


This will be a make-or- break for Cleary. I can't see them going much better then this past season. If that's the case, I'll be interested to see Freddy's loyalty with the likes of Pearce, Reyno, Keary (probably not Walker) and Wighton on his heels. Agree with the Author, by rights the only thing inhibiting the Raiders will be mental. Although a lot of Raiders had their best ever year which won't be easy to replicate, just ask Green...

2019-12-21T23:09:07+00:00

Jacks

Roar Guru


You make a good point about Maloney he might be the 3rd best half this decade behind Thurston and Cronk but the Roosters, Sharks and Panthers were all happy to let him leave early. So difficult to coach? Or just a pain to deal with day to day?

2019-12-21T23:07:33+00:00

Jacks

Roar Guru


It is weird with Maloney probably the 3rd best half this decade behind Cronk and Thurston but the Roosters, Sharks and Panthers were all happy to let him go early. So I don't know difficult to coach or just a massive pain in the a***?

2019-12-21T22:53:23+00:00

Birdy

Roar Rookie


Why would any club let Maloney go. He may not make anyone's team of the decade but put him in a team against them and could very well best them on his own. Time mountain men will scrape into the 8 and Rickies Raiders will go into the gf as underdogs with a ref who can count and take the title. You did mention the colours Jay, If I were a Panthers fan I'd definately have the brown and white jumper. Cannot be copied, a once off colour for any comp.

2019-12-21T22:21:06+00:00

Blackfoot

Guest


Hard to know what effect the Grand Final loss will have on the Raiders. It may create resolve among the players, it may be a mental bridge too far after the media repeatedly told them “ they was robbed” . The Panthers though is a very different kettle o fish , with an overrated coach and his ( so far ) overrated son having the teams hopes pinned on them , it could quite easily be another average year at the foot of the mountains , if they don’t get a bit of luck.

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