Aussie abroad: Les Kiss

By JamesDuncan / Roar Guru

It is not just good Aussie brawn making an impression on foreign rugby fields these days. There are plenty of good brains in the coaching box, too.

Among the Australian coaches now clutching clipboards abroad are Stephen Larkham (Munster), Toutai Kefu (Tonga), Nick Stiles (Kintetsu), Julian Salvi (Exeter), and Chris Latham (Utah).

Not to mention Les Kiss, who is arguably the most accomplished of the lot. The former Waratahs assistant is currently the head coach of London Irish, who compete in England’s top-tier Premiership.

Queenslander Kiss first made a name for himself in the 1980s playing rugby league for the Maroons and Australia Kangaroos. He remained in 13s as a coach for several years after his playing days before code-switching in 2001 when headhunted by the Springboks.

That appointment kick-started what has been an outstanding two decades of rugby coaching for Kiss. His long journey has taken him from the Rainbow Nation back to Sydney, twice briefly to Japan, then the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland and now the English capital.

Kiss comes across as a player’s coach. Of course, he has a deep understanding of rugby’s Xs and Os, but puts building relationships and getting the best out of people above anything else.

“It isn’t all about the methodology and theory of the game,” he says. “The most important thing (about being a coach) is understanding yourself – who you are, how you relate to the people around you, and understanding the locker room. The heartbeat of any rugby organisation is the locker room. If you get that right and can actually relate to people you have a chance to build something nice.

“I’m a believer that players ultimately decide how things are going to work out. Too many coaches try to intellectualise the game. They pontificate about how much knowledge they have, but if you can’t transfer that to the player group then you have nothing.”

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Kiss’ message seems to be getting through at Irish. They are a rapidly rising team having gained promotion from the Championship last season – Kiss’ first at the club. They have continued in the same vein this season accruing a respectable 22 points after ten rounds.

The Exiles are only four points adrift of fourth-placed Bristol meaning a spot in the semis is definitely within reach with 12 rounds remaining. Finishing anywhere in the top six would be a laudable achievement given they are just one year removed from England’s second tier.

Kiss is not the only Aussie helping Irish’s cause. The club has been a magnet for Australian players over the past few years. Eight Australian players are currently on their roster, including five Wallabies.

Adam Coleman, Sekope Kepu, Curtis Rona and Nick Phipps all joined this season bringing their 200-plus international caps worth of experience with them.

Kiss chuckles at the suggestion that signing a raft of his countrymen was done on purpose. He puts their acquisitions down to availability and them having the right mindset.

“It wasn’t by design,” he says. “It was something that was timely. There was a lot of good quality players who were on the market at the time we were looking that were Aussies.

“When Declan (Kidney) and I sat down with those guys personally face to face something seemed to click about where we needed to take the team. They knew what it took to play at the highest level.

“That doesn’t say that London Irish (players) didn’t have standards, it’s just about how you shift the psyche to what it takes to win and be at the highest level of your performance. These types of players (the Wallabies) have been integral to that.”

The aforementioned Kidney is the club’s director of rugby. This is not the first time that he and Kiss have hooked up and had success with a team.

The Kidney-Kiss combination was first forged back in 2008 after the former was appointed head coach of the Ireland national team. Over a cup of coffee in Melbourne, he offered the then-Waratahs employee an opportunity to re-enter the international arena. Kiss accepted his overture and soon uprooted his family to the land of shamrocks and leprechauns.

Around six months after that fateful cuppa, Ireland rugby experienced an ecstasy they not felt in over six decades. Kidney – and his right-hand man, Kiss – led the Emerald Islanders to their first Grand Slam triumph since 1948.

Kiss recalls the rapturous moment when Ireland sealed the 2009 tournament with victory against Wales. Being a part of rugby history, in addition to the complexities of his personal circumstances, gave the moment extra gravity.

“That experience was not just about when the final whistle went,” he says. “It was the journey to get here. My daughter was 15 and my son was 11 when we moved to Ireland. They had said to me, ‘What the hell was I doing bringing them over the other side of the world for?!’ My wife also sacrificed a lot. It was the complete package.

“It’s the biggest trophy that I’ve won, and it was so many years since they’d won a Grand Slam. I really enjoyed life as a Grand Slam-winning coach. For the next week or so I didn’t have to buy a drink!”

Kiss ended up outstaying Kidney at Ireland. He remained on the coaching staff for the first few years of Joe Schmidt’s head coaching reign. All up, in Kiss’ seven years on the Ireland staff, the men in green won three Six Nations titles.

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Kiss’ next stop was Ulster. He held director of rugby duties with the Belfast-based team for three seasons where his side won a respectable 62 per cent of their Pro14 games. He resigned from his post after the 2017-18 season.

That brings us back to the present with Kiss and Kidney re-united at London Irish. The 55-year-old is halfway through his three-year contract, which will keep him at the club until the end of the 2020-21 season.

Then what? Is there potential for Kiss to return home and apply his extensive knowledge to the Wallabies cause?

We’ll have to wait and see. Kiss’ 12-year absence from the Aussie scene is not due to him being forgotten. He has been sounded out on a few occasions by Australian interests but commitments elsewhere have blocked any chance of a return.

“No one has neglected me at all,” he says. “Each time an opportunity came up I was in the middle of a commitment. It just wasn’t the right time.

“If I was ever asked in a more serious way at the right time then I’d definitely consider it.”

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With the new Wallabies coaching regime set in place for several more years it appears that any return would be a way off.

I, for one, hope that it eventually happens. Showering his pearls of wisdom once again over Aussie men (based in Australia!) would be a major coup for rugby in this country. There will be a few more grey hairs in his goatee by then, but with them he would bring a boatload of experience.

As for now, though, Kiss has got a job to do at Irish. And he’s loving it.

“At the moment we have 13 different nationalities in our team,” he explains.

“This is an unbelievable experience to have such a broad spectrum of where people came from and how they see the game. Trying to knit that together into some coherent thing that we all believe in is beautiful. It’s a fascinating project.”

Under the guidance of one Australia’s sharpest rugby minds, you can only see that project succeeding.

Keep it up, Les!

Les Kiss’ coaching CV
• 2018-present London Irish (head coach)
• 2015-18 Ulster (director of rugby)
• 2013 Ireland (interim head coach)
• 2009-15 Ireland (assistant coach)
• 2006 Waratahs development tour of UK/Ireland (head coach)
• 2003-08 Waratahs (assistant coach)
• 2003, 2008 IBM (coach)
• 2003-07 Australia A (assistant coach)
• 2003 Australia U21 (assistant coach)
• 2002 Bulls, Stormers, Cats (coach)
• 2001 South Africa Proteas (assistant coach)
• 2000 Northern Eagles (assistant coach)
• 1999 London Broncos (assistant coach)
• 1994-1998 North Sydney Bears (various coaching roles)

Any requests for Aussies abroad? Hit me up in the comments section!

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2020-03-02T02:37:10+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Absolutely. Ryan had a nice stint in 15s at the back end of his playing career.

2020-03-01T07:24:15+00:00

ncart

Roar Rookie


Don't forget Peter Ryan played for the Brumbies after his RL days as a very good loose forward so his knowledge of XV's is pretty hands on.

AUTHOR

2020-02-24T06:19:06+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Cheers Tommy. Glad you enjoyed the story!

AUTHOR

2020-02-24T06:18:22+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Hi BRV, I think coaches are just less talked about than players in general. Most of the comments under this story reflect on Kiss as a player back in the 80s-90s. I'm sure many people didn't realise where he is based now or how much he has achieved in his coaching career.

AUTHOR

2020-02-24T06:15:19+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


It seems that former League players are valued in particular for their defensive smarts. In addition to the names above, Peter Ryan (Reds Asst. coach) is another ex-NRL player now applying his knowledge to 15s.

2020-02-23T09:22:00+00:00

Tommy Tippee

Guest


Good interview and thanks for sharing, JamesDuncan!

2020-02-22T03:08:34+00:00

Derek Murray

Roar Rookie


Always amused me that Kiss was a gun defence coach when it was far from his strength as a RL player. I met him occasionally when I worked with his lovely wife Julie back in the glorious 80’s. Nice, humble bloke. Seems not to have changed

2020-02-21T08:25:21+00:00

Big Red V

Guest


Kiss and Kidney.... You couldn’t make that partnership up if you tried....... Certainly is an eye opener when you discover how many Aussies are plying their trade overseas in coaching roles and very few of their names are mentioned at home when the Wallabies job comes up. I guess they do in the corridors of RA but not to the wider public. Less was a great Bear but a better Maroon!!

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2020-02-21T00:37:31+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Hey Stillmissit, Yes the Waratahs and Ireland were two really stingy teams under Kiss as defensive coach. He would be a huge asset to the Wallabies.

2020-02-20T23:21:49+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


James, I always thought that bringing Kiss back as the defence coach for the Wallabies would have made a big difference. He is a class individual and totally dedicated to what he is doing. Hoping he does come back and help the rise of Australian rugby I am hoping is about to start..

2020-02-20T12:24:32+00:00

mzilikazi

Roar Pro


Michael Kiss, Hughsy........I got to know him when I did a lot of supply teaching at Bundaberg Nth SHS...he was head of PE there. Also there at that stage was Antoni Kufusi. H e left for Nudgee for his last two years, under the wing of Melbourne Storm, for whom he excelled for several years....played Union for Nudgee while there.

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2020-02-20T10:33:31+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


It would never have happened in the same code, Brian!

2020-02-20T05:40:10+00:00

Brian

Guest


You can never have a go at a guy for making a dollar. But can you just imagine a guy who has worn the beautiful Maroon, and worn it well, coaching a team of sky blue.

AUTHOR

2020-02-20T04:13:31+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Hi Peter, Pyle does indeed play for Stade Francais alongside fellow Aussies Tolu Latu, Sefa Naivalu and Tala Gray. I communicated with HP a few months ago, but he declines the offer of an interview and story. I might try him again down the track.

2020-02-20T04:01:12+00:00

peterj

Guest


Great article! Having spent the last 4 and half years in the U.K I was aware of Les and his achievements. Was very nice to read it all in one place. A request I have for an Aussie Abroad is Hugh Pyle, I think he is still playing for Stade Francais? I always rated him highly and was gutted when he left Australia!

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2020-02-20T02:25:05+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


For sure. The Tahs would love a THP like Hoskins right now. He's had a very impressive season with Irish. A nice game-clinching meat pie against Quins last week. Request noted.

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2020-02-20T02:21:33+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Nice...a couple more Aussie coaches based abroad. Hines is a particularly interesting. From reserve grade rugby player in Sydney to Scottish international in rugby. I might have to chase him up!

2020-02-20T01:27:29+00:00

MitchO

Guest


Cheers James. Since the coach likes you how bout hitting up Ollie Hoskins? Good WA lad. Massive unit. Plays tight head. Wouldn't the Tahs love him right now.

2020-02-20T00:39:44+00:00

Stevo

Guest


Great article James. It reminds me there are so many other Aussie coaches overseas such as ex-Manly men Dan Vickers at Saracens, and Nathan Hines at Montpellier. Both have been lost to Aussie rugby for so long, but have amazing experiences in England, Scotland, Ireland and France.

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2020-02-19T23:43:13+00:00

JamesDuncan

Roar Guru


Hi Paul, he wasn't specific about who or when Australian interests were in touch with him. It seems that he's been their radar. It'd be great to have him back, wouldn't it?

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