The next best West Indies Test XI

By Paul / Roar Guru

The passing of Sir Everton Weekes finished a chapter on one of the great periods in West Indian cricket.

You only have to mention the three Ws to most fans and the names Clyde Walcott, Everton Weekes and Frank Worrell roll off the tongue.

Many pieces have been written over the years about the best cricket teams and just in past few months, we’ve seen a plethora of great names being trotted out, as Roar pundits try to come up with their best ever Test XIs from various countries.

But what about cricket’s next best Test XIs? Who are the guys who are not quite as good as Don Bradman or Shane Warne or Jack Hobbs?

This article is my attempt to come up with a next best West Indies Test XI. There’s no set criteria, simply personal opinion.

Numbers one and two
Opening the batting is not about selecting the best two individual opening batsmen, but selecting the best opening pair.

I also prefer to go with the average of the opening partnership, rather than the volume of runs scored, which is generally a direct relation to the number of innings played together.

In this case, the best West Indian opening pair was Jeff Stollmeyer and Allan Rae (average 71.00). The next best has been Gordon Greenidge and Roy Fredericks (average 53.10).

Fans of Desmond Haynes would certainly be questioning this, but although he and Greenidge were a fantastic opening pair across 148 innings, they averaged 46.63, which is significantly less than Fredericks and Greenidge.

Numbers three and four
George Headley, the “black Bradman”, is the obvious choice for the best number three in West Indies cricket and his partner at four is contentious.

In this case I’ve gone with average over intimidation and I have Sir Everton Weekes at four. This means my next best XI includes the master blaster, Sir Viv Richards, at three and Rohan Kanhai at four.

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Richards was and still is one of the best batsmen of the past 50 years, but his average was a full eight runs below Weekes and a wider margin to Headley’s. His swagger and confidence was simply wonderful, but Headley must have inspired the same dread in the opposition, given his numbers (an average of 60.83 and a hundred every fourth innings).

Kanhai was a wonderful player for the best part of 17 years, who could bat just about anywhere in the order. He was also a useful wicketkeeper.

Richie Richardson is the player dead unlucky to miss out. He had something of Richards’ swagger, but Kanhai was just a tad better bat.

Numbers five and six
Brian Lara and Sir Garfield Sobers would be in the best XI, so this leaves two outstanding cricketers for the next best XI.

Shivnarine Chanderpaul was a batsman who was a key part of a fading West Indian side from his debut as a 19-year-old in 1994, until the last of his 164 Tests in 2015 at the age of 40. Along the way he made over 11,000 runs and averaged 51.37. He was far from the most stylish batsman the West Indies have produced, but he was certainly one of the most productive.

The captain of this side and a great batsman in his own right is Sir Frank Worrell. He is sometimes overlooked as a cricketer, with most focusing on his deeds as the first black captain of a West Indies Test team in a series, but Worrell averaged 49.48 and was the most elegant of the three Ws. He was a steady bowler as well, who was good enough to take 69 wickets including 7-70 against a strong England line-up in 1957.

Number seven
Test wicketkeeping has become as much about being able to bat as it is about snaring chances. Sir Clyde Walcott was a useful keeper but a wonderful batsman, averaging 56.68 across his career. This makes him a lock for the best Test XI.

This means Jeffrey Dujon is the keeper in the next best XI. Dujon was terrific to watch behind the stumps, wonderfully athletic, which he needed to be given the attacks that he was expected to take. His batting average of just over 31 doesn’t do justice to his actual talent. He’d also be something of a talisman for this squad, having never played in a losing Test series for the West Indies.

Numbers eight, nine and ten
The core of any great West Indian XI is their fast bowlers, but who are the best three as well as the next best three out of the outstanding quicks that have worn the maroon Test cap?

In the end I used two simple parameters – which bowlers had great Test figures coupled with the intimidation factor? Malcolm Marshall, Joel Garner and Curtly Ambrose best fitted these measures, but only by a split hair.

My next best are Andy Roberts, Michael Holding and Ian Bishop.

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Roberts looked intimidating when he ran into bowl and his bouncer put the frighteners up plenty of good Test batsman.

Holding, well, he has to be here, simply because of his nickname, ‘Whispering Death’.

Ian Bishop might seem like a surprise choice but injuries killed his Test career. When he was on, he was seriously quick and could move the ball sharply off the pitch at pace.

Number 11
It’s accepted practice that all best-of Test XIs have to have a spinner, but do they? The West Indies are not exactly a breeding ground for world-class spinners, but they surely are for seriously quick fast bowlers.

The great West Indian teams of the ’80s and ’90s often played just the four quicks and for good reason. They were some of the best bowlers the game has seen and the results through this period of Windies dominance speak for themselves.

In deference to traditionalists, I’ve hedged my bets and named two number XIs. One is a spinner and the other is a fast bowler, but both are genuine number 11s.

Sonny Ramadhin was part of the famous Alf Valentine/Ramadhin duo that caused England lots of angst when they toured in 1950. They, as much as anyone, were responsible for the West Indies winning their first series on English soil. I could have just as easily chosen Valentine. Both were fine spinners who could bowl very long spells and remain deadly accurate.

Courtney Walsh was an outstanding fast bowler, not only for his aggregate or average, but for his longevity as a Test cricketer. He’s not generally mentioned in the top tier of West Indian quicks, but his figures stack up against most fast bowlers from any other Test-playing nation and are only slightly less than some of his peers. Both he and Ramadhin were rabbits with the bat and no chance to bat higher than 11.

This would be a fun Test XI to watch and there’s no doubt they’d give the best West Indies XI a serious run for their money. It’s quite amazing how island nations with such small populations can produce so many wonderful players.

Hopefully in the coming weeks, the current squad in England can enhance their claims to make this or the best West Indian XI.

The Crowd Says:

2020-07-11T02:37:33+00:00

Ace

Roar Rookie


Greenidge Haynes Richardson Richards Lara Sobers Dujon Marshall Holding Garner Gibbs I'd pick this against any other combination. 3w's scored a lot in the day but their wickets were even matting in some areas. These players did it everywhere and not picked on averages which do not always tell of their character..just saying

2020-07-10T06:17:21+00:00

Brian

Guest


To pick an XI I would need to know how Sobers was as a spinner? If he was genuine then you could play 4 paceman. Greenidge, Lara, Headley, Weekes, Richards, Sobers, Dujon, Marshall, Ambrose, Garner, Roberts. Lara basically spent his career coming in with the ball less then 10 overs old.

2020-07-09T10:04:50+00:00

Just Nuisance

Roar Rookie


No place for Sylvester Clarke???

2020-07-09T03:40:21+00:00

Jon Richardson

Roar Pro


All fair points Paul. It’s a matter of preference whether you compare someone by averaging them out over their entire career or look at an extended peak. In Viv’s case, there seems a strong view that his eyesight declined in later years, when he was older than Walcott and Weekes when they retired. Some have suggested taking someone’s best 60 Tests or even their best 80 innings as in a Bradman career. I would go for the best 8 or 10 years. But also, I would look at performances away from home which are more challenging, put you more on a footing with other contemporaries, and don’t give you a boost if your home wickets are easier than others. Richards actually had a better away average across his entire career than either Weekes or Walcott. But if I was picking a best ever Windies side I’d have him open - he actually averaged over 60 across his career at 3 or opening. In partnership with Greenidge, so you could keep a middle order of Headley, Weekes, Lara and Sobers.

2020-07-09T02:31:04+00:00

JGK

Roar Guru


Hmmm...I could have sworn the original article said Clive.

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2020-07-09T02:22:25+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


hi Jn, Gibbs is the stand out spinner the Windies have produced and you're right, he'd be a walk-in for the best XI, though I wonder if he'd make the list of the best 10 spinners in the game? His numbers are okay, especially his economy rate, but his strike rate and average aren't anything to write home about. If I was choosing individual openers for the best Windies XI, I'd have Conrad Hunte and either Roy Fredricks or Gordon Greenidge, depending whether you want a left hand/right hand opening combination or not. The keeper issue is a dilemma, IMO. Do you want a terrific keeper or a great batsman who can keep? I went one way, but of course there's no question about Dujon's athleticism. Sure he averaged well early on, but so did Marsh early on. For this sort of exercise, I don't think it's reasonable to be selective about what period of a career one should look at, but the totality. Richards was the best bat on the planet for some years, so was Ponting, etc, but in the back end of their careers, they were fragile. That wasn't the case with Weekes. As for the other guys you mentioned, there's such small amounts between them it would be perfectly reasonable to have Lloyd, Hall, etc in the team. I went one way, you went another, fair enough

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2020-07-09T02:01:37+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


If this side was playing in Australia, Walsh would be in the team, if playing in the Windies, I'd play Ramadhin. " Sir Clyde Walcott was a useful keeper". Not sure what your referring to, JGK. This is a copy & paste from the article. I agree it about Viv, but is he a better number 3 than Headley? The numbers suggest not and ditto with Weekes at 4 or Lara at 5 and there's no way he's going to replace Sobers. Besides the next best XI needs a spinner if they play 4 quicks

2020-07-09T01:13:33+00:00

Jon Richardson

Roar Pro


Interesting exercise Paul, good for thought. I’d question a couple of choices, notably Rae. You’re correct, he and Stollmeyer had the second best opening partnership average of all time, but this is a case where averages are less robust the smaller the sample sizes become. Rae only played 15 Tests, so he might be another Adam Voges – with an average depending on a lot of games against the weaker sides of the day – India and NZ. He only averaged 14 in three Tests vs Australia. So I’d be happy to take two or three out of Greenidge, Fredericks and Stollmeyer for your first team and pair one of these with Haynes in your second team. Also, a big case for Dujon ahead of Walcott as keeper. I discovered in looking at Bridgetown players that Walcott only played 15 matches as keeper, averaging 40 and didnt keep after 1951 due to back problems, I.e. for 9 of his 12 years as a Test player. And apparently not in Dujon’s league as a keeper. Dujon averaged over 40 for his first 50 Tests, so you don’t lose much, if anything, with the bat. I’d favour Lance Gibbs for your first team as a spinner – second player to over 300 wickets, with a good average of 29, about the same as Ramadhin and mostly in years when scoring was higher. Wes Hall ahead of Bishop for mine, Lloyd over Kanhai. Also, can’t see Viv not being in the first team. I’m happy to take Viv Richards in the first team on the basis of his first ten years and first 60 Tests when he was averaging about the same as Weekes and Walcott and facing a much tougher range of bowlers and conditions. So my second team: Haynes, Stollmeyer, Worrall, Walcott, Chanderpaul, Lloyd, Deryck Murray, Holding, Roberts, Hall, Ramadhin.

2020-07-08T23:29:36+00:00

JGK

Roar Guru


It’s Clyde Walcott by the way. Personally, I think Hall gets kind to the side ahead of Bishop. Plus you haven’t said who is your first team No 11. And finally, it does seem unthinkable to me for Viv not to be in a West Indies First XI.

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2020-07-08T20:35:43+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


I desperately wanted to include Holder but couldn't decide who to leave out. Worall?

2020-07-08T20:03:43+00:00

Targa

Roar Rookie


Very useful side. Other possibilities would be the great Clive Lloyd, Lance Gibbs instead of Ramadhin, and Jason Holder if he continues to perform well.

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