Pies show development in rumble of the fumble

By Sports Bloke / Roar Pro

In what was truly a display of 17th versus 18th, the Pies managed to effectively make a few less mistakes and fumble their way into a few more capitalisations. It was ugly but Collingwood fans will take what we can get at this juncture.

As stated last week, I will be judging my beloved Woodsmen for the rest of the year based on what kind of springboard Collingwood can give themselves for the future: the kids, the game plan, the coaches and the positional changes or lack thereof. After the rumble of the fumble on the weekend, we have some new information to dissect.

I have solved a coaching problem for Nathan Buckley. Darcy Moore is a good defender. Collingwood should keep him there. Some of you might say that seems obvious. But apparently it’s not because Nathan Buckley couldn’t figure it out.

Darcy Moore would easily be one of the two or three most important players on the field, if not the most important, when he’s back. When he is forward, he is rendered nigh on irrelevant. There is enough negativity about it though. Moore is a genuine gazelle.

Jordan de Goey is a good forward. Where he differs from the oft-compared Dustin Martin and Christian Petracca is that De Goey is a natural forward. He has excellent forward nous and not so great midfield nous.

I’m not saying either of the champions mentioned above aren’t good forward options, especially Martin. But they have strength and elite talent in general, which is why they can be effective resting forward. What they do have that De Goey does not yet and may never possess is midfield nous.

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De Goey in the middle is a one-trick pony: run through the contest and anyone in it and if you come through with the ball, good. That’s not to say he can’t learn or that effort is not a factor in his performances through the middle.

But right now, keep him forward. Collingwood actually have plenty of options through the middle, which I will get to shortly. The Pies’ forward line is short on dangerous players, so leave the best one there.

Last week in my doom and gloom, one of The Roar’s greats Chuckakhan pointed out that Callum Brown is an inside mid and that if he was afforded more time in the middle at the expense of Steele Sidebottom to the wing, it would benefit both parties.

He is dead right and we almost saw that exact move. Instead of Callum Brown, though, it was Tyler Brown. He is just as much an inside mid as his brother and instead of Sidebottom it was Scott Pendlebury who sacrificed his time at centre clearance to spend his time at half forward.

Pendlebury is the most pure inside mid in the competition and his ability in the contest far outweighs his ability in other positions around the ground. The commentary team pointed out that Pendlebury is the number one score assist player in the competition. This is a remarkable stat considering the lack of scoring at the Pies.

Those numbers come from Pendlebury in the middle and while I see the logic of having him at half forward to deliver the ball inside, he would have more opportunity to deliver the ball inside 50 coming out of the middle on the back of his ability to win the ball then make good decisions under pressure.

Sidebottom on the other hand, as Chuckakhan pointed out, made the all Australian team on a wing and came second in the Brownlow in 2018 while playing on a wing. Obviously at this stage of their careers, Sidebottom would be better in the middle than the Brown brothers, but his best position is the wing to properly develop.

And development is where the Pies are firmly at. The Brown brothers need time in the middle, not on the wing or at half forward. When Taylor Adams gets back, I would love to see Pendlebury, Adams, Josh Daicos, the Brown boys and Jack Crisp rotate through the middle.

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While I am on the kids in the middle, Josh Daicos is all that. That boy can play. He is as clean a player below his knees as there is in the AFL at the moment. He gathers, side steps, composes and makes good decisions.

He has had an absolute rocket ship of a spike on his development graph. I can’t say enough about the kid. In addition to all the above, he tackles, he pressures, and he kicks goals. He is going to be a star.

Isaac Quaynor continues his rise off half back. On the weekend he had 23 touches at 95 per cent efficiency. That is fantastic for a kid his age and just what the team needs: aggression and efficiency coming out of defence.

Caleb Poulter looks promising in just his second game. He already looks like he belongs. If he keeps up his development, it won’t be too long before he becomes a fixture in the team.

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Mark Keane had his best game. He was looking composed in defence and solid with ball in hand. Nathan Murphy is a tough player. In his short career, he has proven already that he is willing to put his body on the line.

I felt bad for Oliver Henry. He looked like he got to a lot of the right spots but it just didn’t click for him. I hope Collingwood persist with him and he finds his groove at the level.

Beau McCreery has great forward-50 defensive work. He tries, tries, then tries again. He chases ferociously. If he finds a way to be more of a threat when the Pies have the ball, it won’t be long before he goes past Josh Thomas for a forward role when Jamie Elliott comes back.

Also, drop Will Hoskin-Elliott when Taylor Adams comes back.

None of this was against a good opponent but it was an important win for the Pies and for those developing kids. Hopefully it gives them the confidence and encouragement to churn out another couple of victories this year.

As much as Collingwood are back in a development stage, the Pies still need to remain competitive. Fans don’t want to see the kids start to lose the love of the game.

Greater challenges await next week. I’m hopeful of a spirited display.

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-12T20:34:52+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Nice comment Kevo

2021-05-11T09:04:10+00:00

Kevo

Roar Rookie


Good description of DeGoey. Think Pies should perservere with him. I know he hasn't earnt the right to be compared to Martin, but nonetheless Martin sort of shopped himself around with North Melbourne before he hit his absolute prime and also settled down a bit. Hopefully the court case works out ok for all involved and DeGoey can really begin to appreciate the opportunity he has been given in life and really move forward and enjoy his footy with Collingwood. Think the players love him which is a good sign (despite allegedly rousing on him last week; and ain't that great if it happened!). But hopefully he can move on from a being leader of the boys to a leader of men. Poor old Grundy. Pies need to do everything possible to get him back to his absolute best. In this year of rebuild may as well play him forward more often and see if he can learn a bit and allow Cameron to develop in the ruck. There's no reason Grundy can't turn the corner down the track. Love playing the youngsters through the midfield, and seeing aging champions Pendles and Sidey moving to the periphery but still leading and mentoring. And good rap you gave on Daicos and Quaynor, 2 bright shining lights.

2021-05-11T06:30:05+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


I didn't realise Chris that Wrighty was in the box with Bucks?

2021-05-11T05:43:53+00:00

Kick to Kick

Roar Rookie


Fair enough. Hope springs eternal. But they actually dropped two kids (after one and three games) for two others and swapped the Brown brothers. As a selection policy and as a game it looked more ad hoc than a development strategy. Rebuilding is hard yakka for teams and fans alike. One of the traps is overselling progress. The point I was actually trying to make is that Collingwood has a nucleus of talented players, and a seasoned coach - much more playing capital than North Melbourne so the narrow win is underwhelming for a team that could be contending for finals.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:34:44+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


Cant wait to see what Wrighty can do with the club

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:33:36+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


Cheers Pete, always appreciated mate. You're Dead right in my opinion, those Brown boys want it and want it bad.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:31:14+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


haha cheers mate. Yeh I see what you mean, his manic style helps him plenty in the contest but coming out of it is definitely and area of improvement.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:30:19+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


Cheers mate I appreciate the read.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:30:01+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


Thanks mate I really appreciate it.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:29:20+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


I would say it would be a monumental task for him to rebuild. I for one don't think the 8 is an option this year and need to focus on a 'reset/rebuild' if he can make this a so called reset it would be an absolute master stroke from here. The question is, can we find the right coach out there to affect the reset more effectively then Bucks? I wouldn't mind entering the coach lottery at this point. Would also love for bucks to make me eat my words about his ability.

AUTHOR

2021-05-11T04:24:09+00:00

Sports Bloke

Roar Pro


development in the kids they played mate.

2021-05-11T03:46:09+00:00

Chris

Guest


Play the kids at all costs. They will learn a hell of a lot from 2021 and next year will only be better. I liked the fact that Graham Wright is seated next to Buckley during matches making the latter appear a bit more restrained, if not slightly uncomfortable, to say the least. Rein him in or dump him..that's the message that´s ringing out loud and clear! No more tomfoolery if you want to be coach Buckley! Forget extended holidays after GF losses,smart post-match comments, snide remarks and the like. If you want to carry on like McGuire the exit door is to your right! Take it or leave it pal...

2021-05-10T21:15:44+00:00


Sier is immature. With a run of games and the right man management I think he can be very good. At 23, I think he is worth persisting with. I don't think the Browns have shown as much as Sier did in 2019. During that season, Sier showed he had the physical presence to be a good inside mid.

2021-05-10T20:31:04+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Good read SB. Dan, Sier is in his 6th season yet a couple of weeks back despite the absence of Adams and De Goey, he wasn’t even selected. He is only an inside mid, has no other tricks and as SB writes, the Browns give us something Sier seems to lack, desperation. You’re never left wondering about commitment with the Browns. My query on Callum is he seems to have a maximum kick of 35 metres. Tyler could well be a star though IMO.

2021-05-10T13:09:19+00:00


Pendles and Sidebottom don’t have the engine anymore to compete with other mids for the whole game. Pendles looked good off the flank I thought. We have some good mids coming through – Rantall, Blanco, Poulter and even Sier is only 23. They needs to get games into them.

2021-05-10T11:07:54+00:00

Ozibatla

Guest


A 3 goal win against the winless Roos is not much to gloat about but Ill take anything at this stage as a Pies supporter. For all our struggles of late, its slightly perplexing to consider a full list comprising of: Pendlebury, Sidebottom, de Goey, Grundy, Moore, Adams, Howe, Elliott, Daicos plus others is 2nd last. The talent is there, the confidence and effective game style at present is not.

2021-05-10T09:44:02+00:00

FabPhil

Roar Rookie


'Rumble in the Fumble' it was indeed. :laughing: It'd be interesting to see Callum Brown as an inside mid and I'd love for him to make it but I just wish he had a bit more poise. He plays the game on fast-forward and it's either his decisions or kicking that let him down. Better games ahead I hope.

2021-05-10T09:36:41+00:00


But who would pay Grundy's wages? No club will take him at 900k a year.

2021-05-10T08:31:00+00:00


Grundy becomes more of a problem the stronger Darcy Cameron becomes. Cameron is looking like a much better contested mark than Grundy and is able to play forward too. We may have another debutante in Bianco this week while Kelly may come in for Roughhead. Bianco looks very well balanced and distributes the ball nicely on both sides of the body. Am hoping we can get some games into Rantall and McCrae. Daicos and Yib are both good prospects for next year. I am not so despondent about the draft or the list as others are but think Collingwood need to grasp the future by giving the kids a run of games.

2021-05-10T08:10:59+00:00

Chris Lewis

Roar Guru


Good article.

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