England, All Blacks meet in Autumn series

I'd suggest you learn to read first Jacko. Comprehension usually comes later. Baby steps mate, baby steps ....

Well neil it became the Lions making 40 mil pounds then it changed to a gross turnover of 40 mil pounds. Even people like me who wont ever apparently be accountants can see that their is a massive difference between making 40 mil and turning over 40 mil. Neil what is my profession if Ill never make an account?

You'll never make an accountant Jacko. You bring deficits forward. Unfortunate fact of life, they accumulate. You don't get to start afresh the next year. To finish 2013 with an overall surplus of $19.5 given how they'd been tracking, all of a sudden, a 40 million GBP windfall in 2013 from a Lions tour makes sense. Well, to everyone else at least. Please let me know if I can help you further.

So effed up it aint funny. According to you and your lovely fantasy land RA made 70 mil Aus $$ just from the Lions eh? Yet had a turnaround from previous years of around 27 mil. Is that Pom maths or just fantasy Neil maths? You’re welcome pommie. The Lions aint just a bunch of Poms but I must admit they are about as successful as the English team on these down under tours. We’re not looking for any thanks, but it would be nice if some of you could please stop whining Neil.

As I have already explained, RA does not get a cent from the boost to the economy. One last attempt Jacko. The 40 million GBP I referred to above went directly to the ARU. The boost to the economy overall was obviously greater. If you can't understand something that basic, there's no hope. But maybe you'll take this from Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/article/rugby-union-australia-idUKL3N17F12M If the ARU posted losses of A$7.5 million 2011 and A$8.3 million in 2012, with that trajectory, how the hell do you explain the A$19.5 million surplus reported in 2013? Bill Pulver's magic fairy? And when you consider the ARU posted A$6.3 million loss the year after the Lions tour in 2014, you get a flavour for how much the SH relies on the Lions coming to town. You're welcome Australia, SA and NZ. We're not looking for any thanks, but it would be nice if some of you could please stop whining. Jacko. Happy Xmas Scrooge.

Pity you are so free with advice you cant act on yourself. This is now 6 days old and you are still spouting forth insults and gibberish. Bye Neil. Have a great christmas in fantasy-land where RA makes 140 mil when Lions tour. Whats that roughly 47 mil per test? Genius....Or is it 30 mil per test and 10 mil per mid week game? As I have already explained, RA does not get a cent from the boost to the economy. See ya!

The fatal flaw with your narrative Jacko is that absolutely non of it (bar the GBP/NZD exchange rate obviously ...although close) is bollocks and is on the record in the Antipodean press. In fact 40 million GBP may even be conservative when the Australian reported a 140 AUD windfall to the ARU in 2013. As at 31 December 2012 the ARU only had $3.41 million in the bank despite having already banked $11.937 million of future revenue ($3.403 million of which relates to years after 2013) and $5.286 million of that future revenue was for the Lions tour (you've got to love accountants!). If you want to know what happened to all the Lions cash, ask Bill Pulver. Or alternatively research the masses of press covering this yourself. It's all out there. Or alternatively, remain in your cave shouting bollocks, denying the sun rise. You're just plain wrong mate. Be big enough to admit it.

Neil thats a load of bollocks. If RA walked away with 40 mil pounds in 2013 why are they broke now and borrowed money from WR to stay afloat?The economy benifits from all the tourists around a Lions tour but thats minimal effect on RAs income around it. They will sell plenty of tickets and probably some merchandise but they dont get the money from the spending outside the games themselves.

Mate, please keep up. As stated earlier in this thread. "The Australian union was estimated to have walked away with the equivalent of 40 million pounds from the 2013 tour." A few things to note. First, that's GBP, so what, $50 billion NZD? Second, that's at 2013 rates. Third, that would easily compensate for letting some prima donnas dip their hands into their hosts pocket every time they visit. Fourth, if the NZ union can't replicate Australia's financial success from a Lions tour, that's solely on them. And as an added bonus, yes your local economy gets a boost overall too. It may only be a fraction of one percent of GDP, but as the NZH reported after the last Lions tour, it's enough to register. I know you think a lot of yourselves, but visiting AB's barely raise a fraction of a one percent of the UK's population's attention.

It might help if you could spell ‘disdain’. Although, none of your other posts make any sense, so probably not. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

That’s actually a lie, Jacko. You surely can’t expect people to believe that England only offered NZ a ‘costs only’ deal to play a game outside the window? Anyway the reason you’re now focussing exclusively on this Baa Baa game is that you’ve been systematically humiliated by a range of posters on all your other drivel. Kiwis whined incessantly about their ‘cut’ continuously for years before that game, and have whined incessantly since - as this comment thread so hilariously proves.

Call me what you like but if you start that sort of rubbish just do some thinking around what Fun bus can be changed to. Boxes of rocks can make people millions of $$ FB :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: I gather you live in Aus? Im in Brisbane.

???????????????????????????? I’ve used ‘mate’ in the ironic sense used when trying to calm a child down who’s having a tantrum. And the ‘shouting’ appears to be the only way to get through to someone who’s dumb as a box of rocks and hilariously narrow-minded. On the plus side, though, Jacko, you are comedy gold. Amusingly, autocorrect tried to change your name to ‘wacko’ - on reflection, I should have gone with it.

Niel what does the NZR get out of the local corner store selling more ice blocks or the motel booking out?

A deal’s a deal. NZRU whinged about this a few years back and got short thrift. Stop repeating BS constantly.

Stop shouting and dont call me mate.

Perthstayer can we make it your mouth Ive lost? Your ear does no offending... Bottom line, that means England’s RFU probably needs to agree to a revenue-sharing arrangement that would see NZ Rugby walk away with £3 million (NZ$5.3m) from the one-off fixture. And the RFU didnt offer anything like that PS. Thats where you are not being honest. NZR made around 2 mil pounds from Baabaas match. Would have lost around 700k Pounds to play England and England refused to try to entice NZ so NZ just stuck with the game they already had scheduled and played the Bababaas. You know this because the match is in the records.

Jacko. I didn't include the remainder of the article you've listed as it includes the opinions of 3rd parties, not the RFU, who gave them short thrift. Anyway, I said I don't lie for effect, your response says I do. That's offensive, you've lost my ear.

Jacko. RFU gave them short thrift. The remaining section of the article you have quoted mentions the opinions of 3rd parties, which is why I didn't include it )see below). Either way, as I tell my children, calling someone liar is provocative baiting that serves no purpose. I'm sure you won't miss me but you've lost my ear. From the exact same article just to prove you are lying. Bottom line, that means England’s RFU probably needs to agree to a revenue-sharing arrangement that would see NZ Rugby walk away with £3 million (NZ$5.3m) from the one-off fixture. Reports from London’s Daily Mail suggested the All Blacks could take home around £2m (NZ$3.5m) for a match commemorating the 125th anniversary of the Barbarians on the same proposed November 4 date, which sits outside the designated test window. A game against the Barbarians is an easy sell. All Blacks coach Steve Hansen could rest many of his big guns, and still keep Tew happy by filling coffers further after a bumper Lions tour. That money filters through the New Zealand game. And as Aaron Cruden, Steven Luatua, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, James Lowe and Charlie Faumuina among others prepare to leave these shores, it only helps in the on-going fight to retain key players. The upshot is England must make it worth NZ Rugby’s while to swap the Baabaas for a match-up between the world’s two best teams that would near sell out Twickenham overnight.

To be. Or not to be... delusional