Shane Warne personified the definition of Australian

If only there was still a Politburo. At least back then - at least post-Stalin - the Soviet leader served at the pleasure of a wide group of people. Even Gorbachev did when he was implementing his "P" and "G". He still had to navigate internal politics. Now, it's just Pukin' as sole Czar - nothing beneath him (or around him) to curb his deranged zealotness. Perhaps he is indeed suffering from Parkinson's as has been speculated for some years - single-minded, somewhat paranoid, loss of filters.

I have replied. I'll wait to see if gets past the Politburro

Nah, all's good, l replied like a scheissenkopf anyways. But no malice intended for you. I enjoy your posts .... for a Leo :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: . I have Mercury conjunct Uranus in Leo so I can be a bit bombastic and like poke fun at stuff. -------- And l agree with you on WWIII. I believe we're on that journey now. I grieve for those people killed, injured and displaced just for the vanity of one man who places more importance on his dress sense and less on a human life. ------- And Mein Trumpf authored fake news by claiming Obama was not American born. -------- America has Pluto at the same degree in the sky as it was in 1776. Pluto is the God of major change, explosive change, death and renewal. America will have its biggest changes. Personally we can have returns for the Sun, the Moon and all planets out to Uranus. Neptune and Pluto take too long to cycle but they indicate generations better than the commonly accepted groupings like Baby Boomer, etc. Strange stuff happens to people, for example, when Uranus makes it return after 84 years.

OK fair enough. I have no desire to get in to an escalating engagement with you. Perhaps I'm being over-sensitive; The Russia-Ukraine war is playing heavily on my mind and causing internal tension. I fear we are already in WWIII but only history and perspective will recognise that it started 2 weeks ago. A nuclear exchange within 12 months is all but assured in my mind. Thank Trump and his mastering of "fake news" over 6 years which has emboldened the world's (other) psychopaths to employ his tactics and simply "act and deny".

Really? Im Australian and don't aspire to, or possess any Warne like traits. This is a tired old stereotype of what it is to be an Aussie male apparently? We derive an unhealthy identity through our sporting exploits while its so called legendary personalities are disproportionately revered across our society in my opinion.

My thoughts on the matter was Warnie was a team guy mostly. DB wasn't. I would even like him to be awarded the Order of Australia posthumously.

It is hard to compare players from different eras. I’d imagine that cricket would have largely been amateur in Bradman’s day and of course they didn’t play anywhere near as much cricket. I remember talking to a young lady nearly two decades ago who wasn’t impressed with Warne because of some of his off field shenanigans, she was surprised when I told her that he was Australia’s best cricketer after Bradman — many people didn’t understand that. I don’t think it matters who was better, they were a long way ahead of anybody else. It is a pity that the media focus on the private lives of celebrities in the modern age, surely it is nobody’s business apart from the individuals involved.

No problem with that. It's our own award and l did refer to it above. Warne is the greatest cricketer; ever. Greater than Bradman, only Sobers comes near. Warnie is a team legend. All three are matchwinners.

I remember Bradman’s record as being 6,996 runs from 70 completed innings, a 4 in his final innings instead of a duck would have given him an average of 100. I trust that you support Warne being given an order of Australia, which would make him Shane Warne, AO.

I might add Warne was the subject. End of Story.

A simple clarification instead of condescension, not on your behalf, would've been the way to go.

Ok, point taken.

Nobody was suggesting a British knighthood. My original post recommended the Australian equivalent. There is no need for this to be an unpleasant discussion.

It is the AO, or Order of Australia. That is what I was suggesting.

We, as Aussies, don't give knighthoods out anymore. We've got our own more egalitarian award

Well I was replying that we’re Australian, Aussies eschew this stuff, and we don’t do that anymore. The Sir Aussie, who appeared on that list with that appellation, was when we did do the fetlock thing. ——- I reread my post and I fail to see how l implied it was the poster’s assessment. And you could’ve deduced, by the same token, that l know my stuff. Anyone whose been around cricket knows that like they know 99.94.

You made it sound like it was the poster’s assessment. No need to reply like an a*******

No s..t Einstein.

Those are Wisden’s five cricketers of the 20th century.

The failure to recognise Warne with the honours he has earned reflects badly on us all. He was more than a brilliant cricketer and lovable ratbag.