The unnamed source attacking Brad Thorn through the media is a disgrace

By Rhys Bosley / Roar Pro

Wayne Smith wrote an article in the Brisbane Times on 12 April titled “’I’d be honoured to coach the Wallabies’: Thorn puts hat in ring to succeed Rennie”.

In that article, an unnamed source – which given that Smith is an esteemed rugby writer is likely to be credible – said: “In the context of getting greater changes around high-performance coaching, Thorn has not been good to work with. He has not been a team player. A decision doesn’t have to be made now but he had better turn that around – and quickly.”

Smith goes on to list a number of players who have left the Reds as evidence of Thorn having the reputation of not being able to work with difficult players, due to the number of players who have left under his tenure.

Some of the players left due to pay issues that are not the coach’s responsibility and the Queensland Rugby Union was robustly supported by Rugby Australia in making that decision, while all but one other left because of off-field issues.

This was not directly attributed to the source but given that no other reasoning was given behind accusing Thorn of not being a team player on high performance, we can only conclude that this is the source’s major gripe.

This “highly placed” source – as Smith describes the person – is a disgrace.

Anonymous use of the media in this way to have a conversation that should be had face to face is gutless and counterproductive. And if it is said publicly, it should be on the record.

What anonymous attribution does is prevent the target from being able to effectively answer for himself, it protects the source from being subject to scrutiny and it raises questions about whether there are other agendas at play.

For example, one might ask the question as a result of this article whether the recent low number of selections from Australia’s highest performing Super Rugby team for the Wallabies squad was intended to apply pressure to Thorn to coach his team in a certain way.

Moreover, anonymous attacks are used to facilitate bullying, which has no place in Australian rugby, even if it is against a person who is as tough as Brad Thorn.

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Nobody outside of the people in Australian rugby really knows what the issues are, but the fact is that Thorn is not employed by Rugby Australia, he is employed by the Queensland Rugby Union to keep the Queensland Reds winning and he is doing a damn good job of it.

It is also a fact that the big disasters within Australian rugby in the last decade have been facilitated by mass leaking to the media.

The events surrounding the departures of Ewen McKenzie and Raelene Castle are the prime examples, as was the exclusion of the Western Force.

They are events that have done untold brand damage to Rugby Australia, making the organisation look like it is run by a bunch of snotty private school bullies akin to Harry Flashman from Tom Brown’s School Days.

It is well past time for Rugby Australia to exercise internal information discipline and to stop the leaking. If the coaches are so frustrated with Thorn being his own man that they feel the need to raise it, they should do so publicly.

When doing so, however, they should note the words of the All Blacks’ World Cup-winning coach Graham Henry about the loss of Wallabies coach Dave Rennie to New Zealand Rugby, because he too had a reputation for being his own man: “New Zealand Rugby cocked that up”.

The message to Rugby Australia is that Brad Thorn might like to put his hat in the ring to be Wallabies coach when after Dave Rennie finishes his time with the Wallabies, hopefully after a long and successful tenure.

So might Stephen Larkham, Simon Cron, Darren Coleman and others, while the “highly placed unnamed source” might not even still be associated with Australian rugby by then.

Through that time Thorn will continue to churn out Australia’s best players at the Queensland Reds, though it is important to remember that he has plenty of coaching options.

Is a difference here and there, most likely about his selections, really worth losing that?

Therefore it would be best if Rugby Australia avoids cocking it up by allowing this disrespectful and underhanded approach to dealing with differences through leaks to continue.

The Crowd Says:

2022-04-19T10:41:03+00:00


:laughing:

2022-04-19T10:38:40+00:00


Boom! Rugby and NRL.. double barrel options! Not to mention here and abroad too!

2022-04-19T10:34:51+00:00


Well said. People often forget what he has achieved in the game.

2022-04-18T12:02:15+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


It was hardly a hugely damming statement. Some RA knob doesn’t get along with Thorn. Big deal! Yep that's it in a nutshell.

2022-04-18T11:58:26+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


He took over HC in 2017 and they have improved ever since Only if your version of "improved" means finished in a lower place on the ladder. Qld has been one of the great rugby nurseries since before Thorn ever laced on a boot. He should somehow get credit for that ?

2022-04-18T09:13:04+00:00

Ruckin rubbish

Guest


Using your depth of Qld Rugby knowledge tell us how many of BT’s U20s and NRC players went on to become players in the big show and how many became international players (in spite of the obvious)? He took over HC in 2017 and they have improved ever since (they had been bottom of the barrel for many years before his taking the role, yes including with stars such as QC). They have only got better and better and better. Coaching stats alone you seem to be very selective on acknowledging any of it. Your inane criteria remains that he should have played games for the Reds? What garbage.

2022-04-18T08:58:53+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


So who was the coach again that took em to the bottom ? Surely that memory of yours can't be that selective? And considering the time frames shouldn't McKay be considered for the credit of any turnaround?

2022-04-18T08:41:29+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


Thanks for pointing out the success of the Reds and highlighting my point of going from the bottom to Oz champions. Appreciate it.

2022-04-18T08:36:49+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Aww so the Brumbies are only ahead because they have more points. Also did you check the Reds from 2011 - 2019, the only 2 years they were the very bottom Aussie team was 2018 and 2019. So who was coach then?

2022-04-18T08:30:03+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


Last time I checked we won the Oz comp and just smashed the Brumbies….plus the Brumbies only have that bonus point from playing the Dura in the first round…..

2022-04-18T08:27:53+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Well currently we're the second Oz team and that's also where we finished last year after the trans-Tasman round. Behind the Brumbies who could at least manage 1 win against a NZ team. So your memory - fine but just incredibly selective I take it ?

2022-04-18T07:49:50+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


Yeah no..we have literal gone from the bottom Oz team, now we are the best. We have only became the best Oz team last session....short memory you have my friend.

2022-04-18T01:56:11+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Could still run on for the Reds!!! Well unless he got a better offer :laughing: Nah but seriously a great great player.

2022-04-18T01:50:25+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Embarrassing, not at all, I'm a proud Qld boy. Love my state. And generally I have a big soft spot for those who represent Qld. So how many times did Thorn run onto the paddock for the good ol Qld Reds ? FOR somebody not embarrassed by Thorn you sure seem to be having problems with a pretty simple question.

2022-04-18T00:30:12+00:00

Ruckin rubbish

Guest


For me? Not at all. I am not embarrassed too easily referencing BT’s record as both a player and coach. The question should be embarrassing for you though.

2022-04-18T00:12:22+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Huh ? It was a simple question. Was the answer that embarrassing for you ?

2022-04-18T00:10:51+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


That good spot being about the same spot as they've been for the last few years. Buoyed a little by the limited competition that they've been paying in post covid.

2022-04-17T12:01:28+00:00

Olly

Roar Rookie


Lol how short rugby fans memory can be. Don't forget where the Reds were and actually how bad of a side the Reds have been for a very, very long time. The Reds are in a good spot all considering.

2022-04-17T11:20:27+00:00

Ruckin rubbish

Guest


Began as a development coach with the Reds in 2015. Coaching the Reds U20s. Then coaching NRC. Doing some genuine “team player” coaching hard yards developing young players for higher honours (quite literally and directly as others have pointed out repeatedly). Did anyone mention he was developing young Australian players for the nation? Have anyone mentioned some of the facts about him as a team player on these pages yet, be it playing or coaching? Do we repeat it? “What have the Romans ever done for us!”

2022-04-17T11:08:03+00:00

Ruckin rubbish

Guest


Sounds about right. Sadly.

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