Zen and the art of being a St George Illawarra Dragons supporter

By Redcap / Roar Guru

On Sunday afternoon, news reached this corner of the Dragon-verse that the directors of St George Illawarra would discuss the poor performance of their NRL team at the next board meeting.

While there were some excitable headlines about the future of coach Anthony Griffin, he was never in danger of being dismissed.

The meeting came and went with little of note apart from the obligatory statement by Chairman Craig Young expressing fulsome support for the coach. Not even the ‘crisis merchants’ of NRL360 made much of it.

But this seems like the start of something – the beginning of the end for a coach who’s always seemed behind the curve.

There wouldn’t have been a discussion at board level without a trigger and it wouldn’t just have been the capitulation to the Roosters on Saturday. Somebody at the club has concluded things are unlikely to improve.

There’s little evidence to suggest the Dragons directors are collectively strong on strategic thinking. But whether intentional or not, they’ve opened a pandora’s box from which all manner of media speculation and other nonsense will emerge in the coming months.

A smart club pays very close attention to what’s said, and who’s saying it, at times such as these. If I was working for the Dragons, the comments of Josh McGuire – reputed to be a staunch Griffin ally – about the team not being prepared to play an understrength Broncos team in Round 17 would’ve rung alarm bells.

Trouble is, this isn’t a smart club – it’s the Dragons.

This is the club that discovered Moneyball 20-years late and, even then, didn’t understand the concept. It’s the club that gave Andrew McCullough, a player already in decline, a three-year contract. It’s the club for whom Moses Mbye, a barely passable backup utility player, started at fullback, more than once.

At times like this, fellow Dragons fans, it’s more important than ever to stay focused on the bigger picture. Coaches will come and go but most of the furniture will remain the same. Some of it’s been gathering dust in the boardroom for nearly 40 years.

Anthony Griffin. (Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images)

Unless you’re inclined to agitate, or even organise and have a tilt at the next board election – and this has been tried before – there’s a certain level of zen, or just resigned cynicism, necessary to stay the course.

With a small change in the offing, it’s worth revisiting what the club is, who makes the big decisions and why success will only ever be fleeting and probably accidental for the foreseeable future.

What is St George Illawarra?

The Dragons are still commonly referred to as a ‘joint venture’ due to the merger between the St George and Illawarra district rugby league clubs in 1999.

While Illawarra remain part of the present-day Dragons through junior development and representative teams, the club’s name and a single board appointee, there is no longer a joint venture like there is at Wests Tigers.

In 2018, the heavily indebted Steelers received an offer they couldn’t refuse from WIN Corporation, headed by Bruce Gordon and his Dragons supporting son Andrew, with WIN acquiring a 50 per cent stake in the NRL club.

The Dragons are now a mixed ownership model, more akin to Souths than Wests.

The board is comprised of eight directors, four from St George Leagues Club and four from WIN, including the one Steelers representative who must be formally nominated by the new part-owner. Despite an even number of directors, the Chair does not possess a casting vote.

The leagues club remains a profitable entity and has ridden out the downturn caused by COVID-19 through a combination of its cash reserves and government help. It’s also still sitting on some valuable physical assets in Sydney.

[profitable entity: https://stgeorgeleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/SGLC-Annual-Financial-Report-31-October-2021.pdf]

WIN is – how to say this politely and without getting anybody sued – something of a mystery. It’s not bound by the disclosure obligations required of many other companies. By all reports, its regional media concerns are doing very well, and Gordon Sr continues to appear on various Australian rich lists.

So far, so good, right? Well sure, the club’s not going belly-up any time soon. But financial security does not equal direction or vision. People still need to provide these things. So, are they?

Who are St George Illawarra and what do they do?

Behind the smiling face of Ben Hunt and Griffin’s permanent scowl reside the people who are ultimately responsible for the playing roster, the coach, the facilities and, most importantly, the future.

CEO Ryan Webb heads the administration. Webb has a background in marketing Australian rules football and spent more than three years as Chief Operating Officer at Wests. He was hired by the Dragons after a brief stint at a company that provides something called an ‘augmented reality app’. As far as I can gather, that’s a fancy way of delivering spam.

(Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

While he’s surely influential, unlike many of his counterparts Webb is not a director. He advises he board and implements their directives. Which brings us to the Dragons’ board.

On the leagues club side, we have Craig Young, a former premiership-winning player and policeman, Peter Doust who spent nearly two decades as CEO and businessmen Peter Black and Ralph Piggott. There’s little publicly available information about the latter two, but Black’s obviously well connected, if nothing else.

On the WIN side, we have Andrew Gordon and WIN CEO Andrew Lancaster, as well as Craig Osborne, a general-purpose lawyer in the Wollongong area, and the token Steeler, Graeme Gulloch.

On paper, there are worse boards in the NRL but as an outsider, it’s impossible to know what goes on in these boardrooms.

The diverse groups (Wests, Gold Coast and North Queensland) might be havens of debate and creativity, or mires of indecision. The insular groups (Melbourne and New Zealand) might be stagnant puddles or just ruthlessly focused on objectives and outcomes.

The old boys’ networks (Manly) might be invaluable wells of corporate knowledge and not just the ancient and emeritus.

The Dragons are a mix. WIN’s been involved with the club longer than they’ve owned it and Gordon and Lancaster likely bring experience and discipline. Osborne’s legal practice is sufficiently diverse for him to have a useful perspective about risk. Gulloch’s probably irrelevant except when it comes to voting.

The leagues club side seems to be the problem. Doust was a much-maligned CEO who lingers for reasons passing understanding. Black’s been a St George director for nearly 40 years and Piggott’s not far behind. Young’s the Chair you have when the Chair doesn’t wield actual power. They’re in desperate need of renewal.

The board’s recent history is also a mixed bag. Just last month the Dragons and the University of Wollongong (UOW) announced plans for a $50 million community and high-performance centre adjoining the campus.

It looks like a big chunk of the project cost will be met by the Dragons share of a total of $113 million from the NSW Government.

While the project is still in the planning phase and while such a centre is hardly a new idea, the partnership concept with UOW sounds promising and might help drag St George out of the last millennium.

Elsewhere, questions remain. Upon his appointment as CEO in 2020, Webb trumpeted development of a new strategic plan based, at least in part, on recommendations of the review undertaken by Phil Gould in 2019.

More than two years on, there’s no publicly available evidence of a plan and my request for a copy of the fabled document has thus far gone unanswered.

(Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Which brings me back to Griffin. While I was not enamored of his appointment, I was happy to give him a chance. While his overall record at Brisbane and Penrith was middling, he left teams that went on to success shortly after his departure.

You can, of course, interpret this in different ways: he was either a drag on performance or adept at laying a foundation.

Regardless, what bothered me was the reasoning behind his appointment. The Dragons board were reportedly looking for a coach with strong qualifications in terms of defence and discipline, as well as a history of being involved in successful cultures.

There was never any evidence of Griffin being a strong defensive coach at Brisbane or Penrith, and his Dragons team is currently the fifth-worst team in terms of points conceded and by far the worst when it comes to missed tackles and conceding line breaks.

The term ‘discipline’ could mean any number of things. I don’t see evidence of a shared ethic. Quite the opposite, be it foul play on the field, poor decision-making by players like Zac Lomax or indiscreet public comments by multiple players. And that’s before we get to Paul Vaughan and the infamous barbecue.

As for an involvement in ‘successful cultures’, did Griffin foster successful cultures in his previous roles or create cultures opposed to his presence? I don’t know but I’ve heard both versions.

Maybe next time, the Dragons should have a clearer idea about what and who they’re looking for. Something a bit more measurable and less open to interpretation. Based on his history, you could make a case for and against hiring Griffin as coach.

In other words, they might’ve been better off picking a name out of a hat.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2022-07-25T12:40:28+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Yes, definitely the sort of character you want to mentor the next gen. Gem of a player in his day but just isn't getting it done any more.

2022-07-25T10:19:05+00:00

Heyou

Roar Rookie


I love Macca. He can tackle til the cows come home. He would perhaps be worth keeping on as a tackling coach. He rarely misses. The hooking job seems to now be beyond him, if the Dragons are looking to get amongst the top eight with even a vague chance of surviving week one. God bless Macca - the guy gives it his all, even when his knees are getting the wobbles, and his coach won’t even give him a flamin’ break for more than two measly minutes :shocked: :thumbdown:

AUTHOR

2022-07-25T05:11:38+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Just to clarify, I'm not on of those St George supporters. I think the club should do more to reflect the Steelers. "It may have been a better idea for the WIN group to let St.George go broke . Then come along as the new Illawarra Club , to take over the first grade expansion position." If you read the article, you'll see why that's unlikely to happen. More brodaly, how is such sentiment any different to that expressed by the old Dragons supporters you decry?

AUTHOR

2022-07-25T05:08:36+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Yes, he is Gerard. https://stgeorgedragons.com.au/museum/

2022-07-25T04:46:32+00:00

Brian

Guest


Absolutely no way would it be anyone who was selected in the 21 man squad this week, and I think it’s grossly irresponsible of anyone to wildly speculate. The nature of the ‘leaks’ is indicative of a lower grade player who’s feeling hard done by. Wish you would retract that comment regarding a current first grader. It’s simply unfair.

2022-07-25T04:17:42+00:00

Gerard O'Connor

Guest


Isn't Peter Black Tiger Black's son? Tiger Black was a member of the St George committee who took the club to where it now stands and was instrumental in donating the old site to the catholic nuns who turned it into a school.

2022-07-25T02:55:30+00:00

Heyou

Roar Rookie


Players and managers and journos and chairpersons of the board are all very leaky. Stories being planted to distract and detract and just steer the faithful supporters off on a mad tangent. As long as we don’t start yelling louder that they should sack the coach and ditch half of the money all team… so high and almighty and glued to their seats around the JV table. Divide and conquer perhaps as they providedtheir own spurious leaks. It’s a farce and it’s background noise and anyone is fair game. That Fox article was horrible. How dare they accuse somebody? Someone? And not tell you who? What a stupid situation it is and we get caught up in the thrust and parry of it all and start imagining who it could possibly be? Fark nose? This family club dobbed a member of their family in but left it to the punters to get the gossip and rumour mills working overtime. What rot it all is. Shame on the board for entering the mire. Why should it be the young centre? Because that’s what they want you to think? Conspiracy theories abound and the same dusty old boardroom, full of dusty old board members will continue to drag us through the mud and find ways to distract us from whinging about the real problems that face the club and team. Humph! :thumbdown: :angry:

2022-07-25T02:13:48+00:00

Heyou

Roar Rookie


I hang on in there amongst the Dragons supporter groups and fight tooth and nail for the joint venture. It’s an uphill battle and can get me so irate that I often turn my steel-edged sword towards the demented demerger proponents of which there are many, mostly the ‘make Saint George great again’ by cutting off one of the hands that feeds types. Many are deliberately posting to create division. They love to get the bites with their sharpened hooks and raw prawn baits. I am a biter. I’m like to eat the hook, line and sinker to get at that prawn. I will have the last laugh, to the dismay of these facetious fishermen. Don’t plucking think about killing my team off, because I’ll be in there snapping and snarling and gnashing my chompers. I’m a shocker and no mistake. Long live my beloved Saint George Illawarra Dragons! The knockers can get fluffed.

2022-07-24T04:16:11+00:00

Justin

Guest


Is that Fatty Vautin ?

2022-07-24T04:11:56+00:00

Justin

Guest


Good thoughts! I thought I was the only one out here, who’s insulted by some St.George supporters & the like. Who seem to suggest that the Illawarra, is the lesser part of the St.George/ Illawarra association. That it’s even a terrible burden, to have to wear an Illawarra jersey. It may have been a better idea for the WIN group to let St.George go broke . Then come along as the new Illawarra Club , to take over the first grade expansion position. As you say, the Illawarra not only has a better junior competition it seems, but also a bigger population than the St.George area. Just a thought! :laughing:

2022-07-23T07:45:02+00:00

The Crow

Guest


I agree Justin. The problem with the ‘original design’ emblem that UAP talks about is that the team it represented is gone, certainly in 1st grade NRL anyway. So are ‘The Saints’. As a former Steelers fan and member, I refuse to become a ‘Red V’ member, and a lot of Illawarra people are the same. The name needs to change. The population of the Illawarra area is now greater than the population of the St George area, and their juniors seem to be in better shape. The St George area could no longer support a stand alone team in its own right. It needs the Illawarra. The sad part is that a vast number of league fans in the Illawarra support other teams because of what happened to the Steelers and the fact they have to be ‘Red V’ members, and the so called joint venture is missing out on big revenue and support. The old St George supporters who beat their chests about past glories, and don’t add Illawarra to the name, need to accept that that team is gone and is never returning. Just as, sadly, the Steelers are unlikely to return. Until the board and fan base find a way of genuinely uniting the team into one team, then we will continue with this current mediocrity.

2022-07-23T07:17:36+00:00

The Crow

Guest


Well said TWO.

AUTHOR

2022-07-23T05:33:56+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


I was thinking about that earlier today. Then I heard Michael Carayannis on the radio saying that Sloan had been shifted to fullback for this afternoon's NSW Cup game with a view to playing NRL next weekend. And no, I don't know why Sloan wasn't named reserve grade fullback to begin with. Another strange one.

2022-07-23T04:58:02+00:00

Rossi

Roar Rookie


What are the odds Hook will put Mbye at fullback instead of the very talented Tyrell Sloan in lieu of Ramsays MCL injury? Ramsay himself has the heart of a lion but my heart stops every time he tries to catch a bomb, and he doesn't have the skill of Sloan

2022-07-23T04:31:01+00:00

The Wollongong Ocean

Roar Rookie


Old logo looks like he’s picking some thing out of the Dragons teeth. St George ILLAWARRA wear the Red V more than enough, which is fine. The Illawarra based jersey should be worn for Wollongong games and some of the away games.

2022-07-23T03:32:38+00:00

Tony

Roar Guru


Just ask them

2022-07-23T02:04:38+00:00

Justin

Guest


Still puts the Steelers jersey up there on an even footing. The ship was sinking before WIN came along & being propped up by the NRL. When you look at junior talent, Illawarra WINs hands down.

AUTHOR

2022-07-23T00:21:01+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


St George Leagues Club and WIN each have a 50% share in the club. WIN is quite Wollongong-centric but they're not the Steelers.

2022-07-22T22:15:59+00:00

Justin

Guest


As it’s WIN that owns a lot of the club, aren’t they more Illawarra now than St.George? Without WIN ;which is Wollongong based , the club was in financial trouble. So the Classic Illawarra strip when necessary? If WIN said they wanted that to be the main jersey, that’s the way it would have had to be.

AUTHOR

2022-07-22T11:22:11+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


Yes, I did. That was the interview. Lomax went a bit too far for my liking.

More Comments on The Roar

Read more at The Roar