'He's brilliant at it': Why Hoops has iron grip on Wallabies captaincy, how Cheika has changed in Argentina

By Tony Harper / Editor

Michael Hooper is “revered” by his teammates and backed by the coaching staff to continue as captain despite suggestions that the Wallabies should consider a fresh voice as the team’s leader.

There was some commentary in the wake of the 2-1 series defeat to England, including from The Roar’s Harry Jones, that Hooper might be past his use-by date as a skipper, with a new approach needed to get the team over the line in close tussles.

Jones said Hooper played with more freedom for the Waratahs this season when unshackled from responsibility.

“Of course, it is a momentous thing to change captains,” Jones wrote. “But the Tahs example shows Hooper is a team player first and foremost. He might be freed up to play over the ball more, too. As a Test skipper, it can be awkward to be in the pilfer-or-be-pinged sweepstakes. adding the extra burden of leadership.”

In the Instant Reaction podcast that followed the third Test defeat, Jones was stronger.

“I’ve never been a Michael Hooper basher – the guy plays with more heart than anyone.

“I just feel there were moments in this match that the captaincy was lacking a little bit. I think Hooper should continue to play but not be the captain and find someone who is a bit more inspirational in terms of the verbals.

“At times they would continue the same thing over and over and it was too predictable for England to work out.

“It’s going to sound ridiculous but I would probably make Nic White captain. He has tactical awareness, makes a lot of good decisions and it might calm him down a bit.”

Christy Doran, writing for Fox Sports, also asked the question this week. It drew a fierce response from Drew Mitchell (paid by Stan Sport and the BBC to give his forthright opinions on the game but seemingly less accepting of others’).

The beating drums have failed to reach the ears of Scott Wisemantel, according to the Wallabies assistant.

“I don’t read a lot of media so I haven’t heard those things,” Wisemantel said when asked by The Roar about suggestions that Hooper might no longer be the best man to lead the Wallabies.

“What does Michael bring? Look, he’s smart. Tactically, on the field and in the way communicates with the referees his evolution, particularly over the last three years has been outstanding. He’s a world-class player. You look by position how other teams rate him, he’s world-class.”

For his teammates, Hooper is “revered. He’s a strong leader. He’s a great listener. And then he will compress and compartmentalise all the information. He’ll either paraphrase it back, or he’ll come up with an opinion and a strategy and we either disagree or we agree with it, and then we go in one direction, and away we go. He’s brilliant at it.”

Hooper has received some criticism for his in-game management around when to take points on offer and when to kick for the line to look for tries.

Wisemantel explained the process.

“It’s a bit of a balance. If it’s purely just coaching staff, then you’ve got not a lot of trust in your players because they’re the ones who are feeling the game.

“They’re feeling the momentum of the game. They’re feeling the twists and turns of the game so we trust our players,” Wisemantel said.

“Ultimately, it’s their decision.”

‘Love to have Eddie back’

Wisemantel, meanwhile, said he would love to see his close friend Eddie Jones return to Australian rugby in some capacity after his time is up in England.

The pair spent some hours together last weekend, drinking beer and eating fish and chips, but Wisemantel said he “wouldn’t have a clue” if Jones was harbouring ambitions to come home.

“I’d love to have Eddie back in Australia. In what capacity I don’t know. He’d be great for the game heading into 2027.  Just the way that he promotes the game. The way he drums up, I suppose business, from your (media) end, and interest,” Wisemantel said.

“I’m biased because I’m mates with him. And I’ve worked with him. At the same time, and I want to make this really, really clear so you can’t draw the bow that ‘Wisemantel wants Eddie Jones back’. Dave Rennie and this coaching staff are exceptional.

“So in what capacity? I don’t know. It could be in an ambassador’s role for Australian Rugby Union, but it’d be lovely to have Eddie back.”

He said their catch-up on Saturday was focused on footy rather than futures.

“It’s always footy, having a beer with some fish and chips and away we went,” said Wisemantel.

“It’s never about the future and ambition and where you want to go and who you want to coach. That has never, ever been part of it.”

Cheik’s changed with his assistants

The Wallabies returned to camp on the Sunshine Coast on Tuesday ahead of the two-game run to Argentina, where Rennie will match wits with Michael Cheika, who started his reign with an impressive 2-1 series win over Scotland.

Wisemantel made an interesting point about the change in approach between Cheika at the Wallabies and with Los Pumas.

“We’ve watched all their games,” Wisemantel said. “They’re playing a lot more rugby, they’re holding the ball for longer periods and they’re doing well so they’ll test our defence.

Michael Cheika, head coach of Argentina, catches the ball. (Photo by Daniel Jayo/Getty Images)

“Conversely from an attacking point of view, they’re filling the front third. There are 13 in the front line and their spacing is really broad. So we’ve got to come up with a plan to attack that.

“You are always going to have some philosophical points that you can lean on but Cheik’s changed with his assistants. You look at all the coaches with longevity in any code. I look at Sheedy, I look at Bellamy, those sorts of coaches. They all evolve by turning over their assistants. Cheik’s done that with Argentina and they’re playing some good footy.”

He added: “What he’s doing and he’s doing really well is he’s relying on the attributes that set some of his players apart where you know, whether it’s through power or skill, and then mixing it up.”

Australia will be missing key player Samu Kerevi in Argentina with him on duty at the Commonwealth Games sevens tournament starting later this week.

While Wisemantel said it was too early to talk replacement strategy, he said the team had four centres and felt it was well covered in the No.12.

“It’s marrying what you’ve got. I’m not worried about what I haven’t got,” he said. “I wish I had 10 million bucks in my account. I don’t. So I don’t worry about those things.

“We’ve got some exceptional centres – Paisami, Ikitau, Simone and Foketi. Four really good centres. So what we need to do is work out the strong points and how we can play and how we can get the best out of those blokes.

“They’ve got preferred positions and it’s not hard to find out what they are because you just go to the bloke what do you prefer? And they’ll be honest. Having said that, they can mix and match.

“Hunter has played for us at 12 but he’s also done a job for us at 13. We need blokes who are adaptable and a footballer is a footballer. Wherever they play, they can move around, they know the game and they can adapt. So we’re really big on that.

“If you’ve got a specialist 12 in general, they’re probably a better ball player than your 13 and they can take the pressure off the 10 a bit. They might be a crash ball guy at 12 and it bends the line when there’s nothing on. So it just depends how you want to play.

“There are specialist traits. However, they have to be good enough to adapt and be able to mix and match – you don’t want to be a one-trick pony.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-04T16:39:02+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


Ok.... Just so we're clear.... We both know you don't know how to find the stats underpinning the article you keep quoting... so I'm going to help you out and show you how wrong the article you use as your 'source' is... and I'm even going to give you TWO examples with a quote straight from your article..... "He may have won four turnovers in this Test, but that’s just four of the 19 across his Tests this season." Your 'source' article claims Hooper got 19 turnovers last year.... he got 16 Your 'source' article claims Hooper got 4 turnovers in the France game.... he got 2 Your 'source' was an article by Rugbypass.... Here are Rugbypass's own stats that show both YOU and the article are wrong https://www.rugbypass.com/players/michael-hooper/ Scroll down for Stats and look in the defence column... you will see I am right. Then on the drop down for 'all teams' select the Melbourne game... you will see again I am right Now, as to the rest of your claims that he was double the next best, and your new one that he was the only one to get more than a 1 turnover per game average for the whole of 2021, I can tell you that neither of those claims are true...... but you're gonna have to figure those player names out for yourself.... So, not only have I responded to your claim that I have no source, I have demonstrated from the same source as the article you quote as being hopelessly incorrect... Perhaps you will be a little more circumspect in future hmmm?

2022-08-03T09:44:05+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


I’m still waiting for you to provide any evidence to support anything you say. It’s just all your ramblings and using the new word you read in the dictionary that day

2022-07-31T18:03:25+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


That's not true TWAS.... You are wrong and you keep hanging your hat on an error strewn article (I suspect you know this now as you've moved to him being the only one to get 1 turnover per test....) Hooper did NOT get 19 turnovers in 2021 per the article Hooper did NOT get double the amount of turnovers of the next best player in 2021 per the article Hooper did NOT get 4 turnovers in that 2021 game vs France in the article Hooper is NOT the only player to get more than 1 turnover per game average in 2021. Again, you are wrong.... And finally, Hooper is NOT leading the turnovers in the Australian team in 2022. In fact, one other player in the Australian team already is almost DOUBLE Hoopers count..... There are Australian wingers with as many as or more turnovers than Hooper in 2022, and this is a perfectly legitimate reason for people to question him this year. Stop being a Tr@ll

2022-07-31T00:31:01+00:00

ozziedude

Roar Rookie


Ha ‘a dead cat bounce’ i havent heard that one before! I would definately call beating the abs for the first time recently, a team on the rise.. ask any Welsh or Scotsman if they would like that.

2022-07-30T23:44:41+00:00

Francisco Roldan

Roar Rookie


Certainly: Pocock and Hooper made history, especially against Los Pumas.

2022-07-30T23:35:51+00:00

Francisco Roldan

Roar Rookie


I have no doubts about Kerevi as a world class player. However at 10 Cooper never ceases to amaze me. I enjoy it much more than before Wallabies discontinued him.

2022-07-29T14:24:49+00:00

Richy Provan

Guest


So far, I would only say the Argentinians rise is more like a "dead cat bounce". One remarkable thing about Argentina: they only import Coaches from NZ and AU, so far, but export high quality players. No Fijians, Tongan, Somoans, Europeans or S. Africans, or from neighbouring countries. We don´t have the financial resources to hire high quality players, a shame as ther is a lot to learn from first tier foreign players.

2022-07-28T04:07:59+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


Go and look at one single stat TWAS... you know what it is..... it's a starting point for anyone (even you) to do some research before you sprout off.... Either you don't know how to find it or you already have......?

2022-07-28T04:03:40+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


AAAh now we have the real TWAS.... I will say it again and again.... I'm calling you out. Go on.... I dare you.... go and look up the stats for that ONE game.... Or can't you find it?

2022-07-28T04:01:11+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


lol.... and YOU call others out for 'cherry picking'.... my goodness... there is NO period (that's a full stop TWAS) which means he ALSO said "captain and highest paid player in the Wallabies" in that same sentence.... You know, all 3 descriptions... Don't get angry because YOU can't read and get called out for it.... :happy:

2022-07-28T03:57:27+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


Really you do need to learn to read..... I'll spell it out again SLOWLY...... The article you quote is wrong.... an eeaassssyyy way to check is to compare the Hooper 4 turnovers for that game claim..... That's just one game for you to see the basis for your superior attitude is misplaced.... and because I figured you wouldn't even do that.... IF... once you see that claim is wrong and you have the courage of being more than a troll to everyone.... you can dig deeper and you will see that your DOUBLE claim is fanciful and also wrong.... Simples!!!! :stoked:

2022-07-28T03:54:14+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Responded directly to this: “He is just not good enough to be a Wallaby number 7”. Don’t get angry because you can’t read

2022-07-28T03:52:03+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Yet have no source to dispute my claim and quoted source. Telling me to go look up something is meaningless. Go look up my stats and prove my point for me instead!

2022-07-28T03:51:32+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


You should learn to read.... I'm calling you out because you created a Straw-man argument in your response to Geoff.... As I said above.... (it's in black and white)

2022-07-28T03:49:53+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


No, you make claims that he has DOUBLE the turnovers of EVERY other international player in 2021 and use that to comment disdainfully to other people here... I'm calling you out because you are wrong.... not because everyone agrees he does a good job... I've even given you a simple SINGLE stat to look up and compare one of the claims in the article.... I know you won't look it up or if you have won't mention it because that would lead to the realization that your claims are wrong... Stay in your lane TWAS.... go do the research and argue your point, not the sidesteps....

2022-07-28T03:49:08+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


One game? I’m talking about 2021 full season stats buddy. Unless your point is that in a brief 3 game window a non back rower did better (ignoring that his performance on that metric exceeds back rowers for other nations in 2021) for this metric. Which isn’t really a point.

2022-07-28T03:45:06+00:00

Keith (no longer) of WA

Roar Rookie


Yes I do TWAS… I told you exactly where to look and invited you to do so…. But I’ll spell it out again…Look up Rugbypass’s own stats for that game, and then, if you have the courage, dig deeper…. (that’s assuming you know how to find that game?)

2022-07-28T03:43:04+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Learn to read. I’m replying to the comment directly above mine.

2022-07-28T03:42:31+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


And we all make our decisions about a players’ ability over their career by a 3 game window which amounts to less than 3% of their career… You commented on him doing his job as a flanker. All those people I referenced agree he does his job.

2022-07-28T03:40:41+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


You have no source for your comments

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