The victory that surely condemned Ian Foster

By Highlander / Roar Guru

How good a performance was that from the All Blacks, especially to wobble as they did in the second half, show the right composure and come back and finish over the top of South Africa, at their place, at altitude, and by a damn fine margin too.

Ian Foster should be recognised for getting the win in difficult circumstances, and for now it appears to have been enough to keep him in his head coach role, despite some serious flaws in his selections and game plan, not only this year, but last.

New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson has held a press conference before the side departs the republic and it seems a case of kicking the can down the road a bit with further discussions to be had once everyone gets back to New Zealand.

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Robinson was certainly not going to be drawn into further support of Ian Foster. He said they would confirm by the middle of the coming week. No matter what one thinks of Fosters performance, this is not a great position he is being left in – limbo land.

But no matter the outcome, Foster’s late decisions to make the changes this side so obviously needed have placed him into a position where he is still in jeopardy.

His reticence to hand the game reins over the Richie Mo’unga earlier this year when the All Blacks were screaming out for game management has hurt him. Mo’unga at 10 showed what a calm head can do, buying time for his quality distribution, winning the kicking battle and pinning the Bokke back, but also Mo’unga just lives in the line.

He presents a different defensive picture to the opposition over and over and in the latter stages of this match this allowed rotation of kickers so South Africa could not bring line speed pressure. Was he perfect, no, but for a guy getting his first start of the year, in that cauldron, it was about as good as it gets.

(Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The cool calm head that he brings settles all around him. Let’s note the courage it takes to hold the ball for that extra second and let the defence overcommit before isolating defenders with the pass.

What would New Zealand have given for that kind of match control in the Ireland series? Worth noting that New Zealand get the full benefit of that Aaron Smith best in class pass with a first five-eighth who varies his depth constantly, while Smith also did a great job using the short step to keep the South African forwards from sliding early.

As critical a selection was Shannon Frizell at blindside. All of a sudden Sam Cane isn’t doing the hard yards on his own, we have a man prepared to put his hand up to do the hard carries off his own line, big front-on tackles, hard at the break down and one really important line out steal, but over and above all else, he was the big, physical, never take a backward step presence this side has been missing.

At long last New Zealand had a trio that looked somewhat balanced, never more so demonstrated than in the 54th minute.

The All Blacks stalled another South Africa lineout maul close to the line and forced them to go wide, Sam Cane belted Handre Pollard behind the line, Shannon Frizell fired himself into the next contact (doing some damage to himself in the process) and Ardie Savea picked off the turnover at the next ruck.

That, boys and girls, is what good looks like when it comes to loose forward trios playing together, and New Zealand have been missing it for a year. Critical moment and all three playing big roles in turning the Bokke away.

Foster should get the credit for finally making the big selections calls in other areas too, but the fact that it was last roll of the dice time, away on the high veldt with a team he had taken to fifth in the world rankings would surely have had NZR brains trust thinking more widely than just this match.

In that All Black side, by Foster’s selections in the last year, were the fifth-choice loosehead, the third-choice hooker, fourth and fifth-choice tightheads, and his fifth-choice blindside.

They did themselves and the country proud, and a whole lot of those South African forwards looked well uncomfortable with young men opposite them prepared to have a real go, but it took way too long to give them a deserved shot in the major roles.

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How much credit can really go to the head coach for that all-round massive improvement from the forward pack when the Crusaders (read, Scott Robertson’s) forward coach comes in and gets the focus on the key elements of the game correct and simply cuts down the areas for the opposition to attack?

For the record, I thought Scott Barrett and Sam Whitelock put in a great shift for this game and were a big part getting past a South African pack, which, it should be said, really struggles with a bit of pace against them and a changing point of attack.

Finally, whoever runs catching practice should not be buying the beers for a week, but for me the biggest improvement was the positional play of both Will Jordan and Jordie Barrett. It was really poor last week, and was exploited by the South African kicking game, but this week the All Blacks had guys in the right place at the right time, and returned the kicks with a far better effort of their own.

This was quite the game to have as one’s final hurrah, should it be so for coach Foster, but so many of the things that contributed to a great win, both selections and game plan, simply demonstrated how poor he has been in both of these areas over the last two seasons.

This match showed that the recent reported death of the All Blacks has been greatly exaggerated, and in essence simply served to prove what can be done with a better approach from the coaching box. Therefore, Foster’s tenure remains seriously at risk.

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-22T09:05:12+00:00

Uriah Heep

Roar Rookie


Yes but they aren't threats - which is your original accusation. It isn't anything like the flounce that Henry did on his way to Wales - the run-up to that did look and sound like a threat (not that it wasn't, necessarily, warranted btw). Neither Razor nor Deans can be accused of threatening the NZR. As soon as the word is spread by the media (who quite possibly are simply fishing) then there comes a time when they really have to set things straight. I think that both handled things OK under the circumstances.

2022-08-18T12:38:11+00:00

NDT

Guest


All the Good Players say what they think is the right thing to say not say what they truly think or believe…

2022-08-18T10:34:39+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


UH Deans held many mettings with RA and kept telling them he was waiting on NZR to decide before he committed to Aus. He made that public that if NZR turned him down he was coaching Aus. Thats not a threat but its a statement made in public made to ensure the public know. Razor did the same with his statements in a similar but less lengthy way

2022-08-18T10:31:38+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


And what do you want me to do Faith? Whinge and insult him for the next 2 years or get behind him as he is our coach? Ive noted everything. Ive noted the change in patterns going in to the Irish series etc etc etc. I genuinely dont believe we will lose to Arg or Aus but if you do then I guess you may be surprised and I may be disapointed. But I dont think so.

2022-08-18T08:52:25+00:00

Uriah Heep

Roar Rookie


Wayne Smith

2022-08-18T06:48:53+00:00

Uriah Heep

Roar Rookie


Neither Robertson nor Deans threatened NZR- that's just bosh. Some coaches simply get offside with the hierarchy and never get a sniff. Others are suitably unctuous and slither right in. There's nothing new about this - the NZRFU have played this game before.

2022-08-17T03:03:25+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


Sorry but any thoughts on a Razor coached ABs are just speculation. Zero proof of any statement good or bad.

2022-08-17T03:01:48+00:00

Jacko

Roar Rookie


There was nothing like the adversity being thrown at them then. Not even close.

2022-08-16T17:32:48+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


If Fozzie is retianed there should be a review after every 3 games to make sure the mediocrity that is his lot sets in ...

2022-08-16T17:23:34+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


They've lost without fiiring a shot. They've been comprehensively beaten in those games. They've not just been beaten.

2022-08-16T17:22:10+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


So, who were they playing for when they lost 5/6?

2022-08-16T17:20:53+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


I suspect that WBs and Boks will split the series ...

2022-08-16T17:20:16+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


It's about badly they've lost to Ireland and France - in those losses they haven't fired a shot. A Razor team can't be that bad ...

2022-08-16T17:19:15+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Its not the players. Its not the defeats - its just how clueless they've looked. Bad combos that ignore the basics of positions and combos i.e loosies and midfield ...

2022-08-16T17:17:24+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Jacko, ABs under Foster won the first Irish game with 3 scores and then got taken apart. You must not have noted the patterns with this coach - one great game follwed by a dud. Only that the duds have become more frequent. If Fozzie stays nothing would surprise me even losing a test to Pumas at home let alone losing the Bled. Honestly.

2022-08-16T08:11:34+00:00

Jim Parker

Guest


You’re right, there have certainly been hateful comments. But there is also a lot of valid criticism, directed at the record and not the man. I agree with Highlander that this was too little, too late. His selections and game plan (if there indeed was one) were consistently poor and shown to be sub-optimal. Yet, he did not want to listen. He was doggedly loyal to players past their prime and did not introduce any new ideas from what were deployed in the Hansen era. It was patently obvious that other teams had over-taken the All Blacks, yet Foster kept asking the public to be patient. That it turned around at Ellis Park was in part thanks to a poorly selected Springbok team, but mostly due to Ryan’s improved forward coaching and the fact that Foster, in a final throw of the dice, agreed to selection changes. The fact that many of the players have publicly supported him tells you nothing. He appears to be a decent man. But that doesn’t make him a good coach. One hopes the NZR, after all their dithering, finally face reality.

2022-08-16T07:44:11+00:00

Pilferer

Roar Rookie


Do you think you will still be coachingvthis team next test?

2022-08-16T07:26:53+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Isn't Christie a bit small - like a Kwagga Smith without the compensating advantage of Boks other big players to make up for his size ...

2022-08-16T07:21:08+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


What was Wilson's question?

2022-08-16T07:20:28+00:00

Faith

Roar Rookie


Just reading pieces in the Herald and Stuff is that this needs a vote by the board ... they probably just want to go through all the processes to make sure they are covered if anything goes awry after this. It's a really tough one - bring Fozzie back and then be on tenterhooks. Fire him and deal with the finance consequences ...

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