England absolutely humiliate Ireland in phenomenal display in London

Not much to get from you Dennis. Go take your angry pills.

That's what Jones specifically wants. There are a number of flashier scrum halves he could take, but he seems to just want someone to do the basics consistently well and let the 'girls' outside do the flash stuff.

Yes, there a number of reasonable and sensible ways to suggest that Saturday's result may not be as significant as it looked. For example, Ireland and England are at different stages of their prep given that Ireland have to hit the ground running against Scotland, whereas England start with Tonga and the US. But, some of the assertions made on zero thought seem just based on assumptions years out of date. Apparently, England are a big, unfit pack that will blow-up after 50 minutes if the weather gets above freezing in Japan. The fact that is was 32c on Saturday and England were running around like spring chickens at 80 mins is neither here nor there.

You are such a party pooper, FunBus. :silly: :silly: :silly: The other day one of usual suspects boasted out that England hammered Wales just before the WC 2015 and therefore the result against Ireland last weekend was "void". Funny thing, England did not play Wales in a warm-up and during 2015 England hammered no-one (apart from the meaningless match against Uruguay).

I know. Facts do get in the way of a good dose of righteous prejudice, don't they?

In other words, you got nothing. And in more great news for Australian rugby, (Kiwi) Rob Penney from Canterbury (that's in NZ) is coaching the Waratahs next year. Let's see if he can get the Sydney metro sexuals to htfu.

Oooh, you and your FACTS that you insist on providing.... :happy:

Agreed Jacko. It would be on his terms.

Try valium Dennis. The hooch isn't working.

Read the last sentence of my post. I'm well aware of what EJ has been up to since leaving Australia. So your reply was a waste of your time. I've heard of a Dave Rennie but I don't know Kiwi Dave Rennie. Are they related? Are you yet another Ocker with the chup on the shoulder? I never mentioned Rennie in my reply so why are you asking me to comment on him? How did this become a Rennie v EJ thing in your mind? Did RA meet with or approach EJ? Or are you so xenophobic towards NZ'ers that you were triggered into spitting out the one and only remotely likely Australian candidate?

TK I think Eddie would tell Castle to stick it up her ...........Jumper....I dont see him wanting a job in the exact same spot he got crapped on from a great height....

My recollection of when Rod McQueen left the Wallabies was that the writing was on the walll … they were old and it was going to be all downhill from there. Eddie was on a hiding to nothing. He won a Super rugby title, he took Australia to within an extra time penalty of a World Cup victory, as assistant he helped South Africa to their World Cup victory, subsequently defeated the same team in a legendary victory when coaching Japan, and won the Top League title in Japan with Suntory. As England head coach he humiliated Australia with a 3-nil series whitewash on Australian home soil (England’s first ever 3 test victory including record winning margins over Aus). England were the laughing stock of world rugby when he took over, and he coached them … was it to 18 straight victories? (I can’t remember) and ranked 2nd only to the ABs in the World. Most recently England thrashed Ireland on the weekend in a manner typical of Eddie’s teams. So, how does kiwi Dave Rennie’s record compare to that……? We have one of the best coaches ever, an Australian, and we don’t want him….?? No wonder the Wallabies are crap. Put the pipe down Dennis.

What alternative history is that post derived from? EJ took over from Australia's most successful coach at the Brumbies (then Wallabies) with a lot of the MacQueen era personnel intact. Promptly lost the Bledisloe, then a home WC final and it all went downhill from there until he was sacked, leaving Australian rugby in a multi generational state of disarray it has yet to completely recover from. Eddie has some good stuff on his CV but not much of it involves Australian rugby.

The word is that Dave Rennie is a done deal as the next Wallabies coach, but he has not had any international experience, no Australian experience, and is a Kiwi to boot. Eddie Jones is one of the most successful Australian rugby coaches of all time. Trevor Baylis leading England in a different sport is another example of Australia allowing its most talented coaches to leave, only to be defeated by them after their services were gleefully snapped up by the old enemy. If the Wallabies are to return to the top of world rugby, the next Wallabies coach must be Eddie.

‘The paddy’s usually take the Poms out as a norm.’ You mean apart from 8 of the last 11 times they’ve met?

He has looked great for he Poms the last couple of weeks. He don't look like a flashy player, more like one who does the basics rather well and sticks with that.

Heinz was a Canterbury and Crusader ring in, played only when the others needed a spell, never All Black material and only got a big game rarely, He may as well have gone over and got in on his Nannas' good name coz' he was only a middling Half back at best, OK but never outstanding, be OK for the Poms tho!!

That's all they will be, candidates,! ~ It was only a friendly so no Coach with any grey matter is going to play his Team into the ground, these are the games you don't need lurking just prior to a World Cup, ~ Joe will be unhappy, but everyone knows the Paddys usually tke the Poms out as a norm' and England played like they usually don't, might've been their big one!

Neutral, I think Ireland already received a 'reality check' during their opening game against England in this year's 6N and throughout the tournament in general where they really didn't fire. If I were an Irish supporter I would be seriously concerned that their team (following a 40 point drubbing and with their confidence 'dented') may lose their remaining warm-up game(s) against Wales and board the plane to Japan with no wins, no momentum and possibly no Sexton or Carberry. As FunBus said Youngs has not had much game-time recently. Unless he demonstrates a massive dip in form or the standard he's capable of - then I can see him starting in EJ's top run-on side. He's a quality player - and with around 80 caps that kind of experience will be needed in the team as it approaches the knock-out phase of the competition.

Yeah, some of Young's kicking was appalling. But he made some sharp breaks and got some decent ball out. England were clinical though. Sinkler stood out for me. Some great ball skills for a forward. And great to see Tuilagi back to his barn-storming best in the middle. Itoje was good again too. Thought Ireland's scrum was average but their line-out was rubbish, whether Best was delivering erratically or the lifters' timing was off. Thy missed Sexton for sure but Murray was positively ponderous. Some of the fringe defense, even on their line was surprisingly poor. They'll look to atone @ Aviva but were crushed at Twickers by a very good England. Warning bells for Japan...