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Excellent summation of 5 icons of the game and RWC, Nicholas.
This IMO, was always destined to be the hardest segment to write for whoever was given the task but you’ve done it brilliantly.
Now it’s time to ask Johnno for one of those NFL helmets…
The Roar’s 50 greatest players in Rugby World Cup history: 5-1
John Howard, you’ve got to confess
John Howard, your face is a mess
John Howard, how could you know?
Hot tramp, I love you so! ????
Southern dominance and other World Cup facts
Re-read Nobrain’s original post and all the subsequent responses to his cheeky piece of banter… and particularly his response to my post which again, was meant as light-hearted ‘banter’. No more, no less.
If having done all that, you’re still inclined to feel ‘offended’ on Nobrain’s behalf, then drop him a line, Moaman. Evidently, he is capable of expressing himself clearly.
Haste la vista baby!
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
I love Tipuric. Had he been English I suspect he would have been in EJ’s squad and with around 60 caps – possibly the starting 7. Regardless of Ellis being sadly, sidelined by injury, I think Gatland would take TC (and probably Underhill too) if they were available to him.
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
Neil, I accept the premise for and importance of fielding a settled, first choice XV and imagine that should England reach the knock-out phase, with most of their squad intact, EJ will look to play his gun XV for any/all games, thereafter. There’s also no doubt in my mind that Farrell and Tuilagi will be in this team.
My comments regarding ‘horses for courses’ were in response to NB’s assertion as to what EJ’s preferred midfield would look like. I was attempting to convey that depending upon the opposition, I would expect EJ to make a choice between Ford and Slade.
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
To whom are you referring, moaman? Nobrain or Cokanasiga? 🙂
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
Now, now Nicholas… we both know that Curry (as an Englishmen) would be deemed far too ‘dominant’ to be considered for selection in the first place! 🙂
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
All good Fionn. I think the only edge the Boks currently have in the BR over England is PSDT at blindside. However, we might have to revise our opinions at the end of the tournament if EJ decides to continue playing Curry at 6. This lad, at 21, is already a phenomenal player.
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
‘Notably inferior… in the back row’
We’ll see…
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
I’ll wager that their English is better than yours Nobrain and that Cokanasiga knows how to spell ‘Fiji’ 🙂
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
Nicely done Nicholas. A good article.
However, I’m not sure I agree that EJ’s first choice midfield will be Ford, Farrell and Tuilagi. I think he’ll adopt a horses for courses approach during the tournament. For example, if we come up against SA, and start with Ford at 10, aren’t they likely to send a plentiful supply of very big men down his channel all day? For this reason, I fancy that he’ll start with Farrell, Tuilagi and Slade (if fit) instead. However, should we face Wales, I can see Ford, Farrell and Manu starting and IMO, this midfield should have been Eddie’s plan B (which was non-existent on the day!) in Cardiff during the 6N earlier this year.
I do agree though (and as already stated on another thread here on Roar) the participation of the Vunipola brothers and Tuilagi is key – to the progression of England (both into and beyond the group stage) and their potential to win the tournament. While I believe that Cokanasiga will be in Eddie’s starting 23, I think he may opt for the experienced heads of May and Watson in his Gun XV.
Have England come good for the Rugby World Cup just in the nick of time?
‘Yes thanks for the help in proving your incorrect statement. Not smiling means chucking medals’.
I don’t think anyone actually said that did they rebel? But nice ‘straw man’ nonetheless. Similarly, no one that I’ve heard has suggested the winners medals were literally, thrown at the team.
According to the Guardian, Johnson, used the word ‘chucking’ and this is corroborated in his recollection of events from that day, in the link from youtube which I provided. Whether you or others choose to accept his perspective or observations of this moment – as credible – is your right.
Yes, it’s not unheard of for the media to exaggerate or paint people in a bad light but to be honest, I’m struggling grasp what ‘the captain’ (as you put it) stood to gain by making a ‘false claim’ surrounding this event? Particularly, when both he and Dallaglio also acknowleged that Howard had come into their changing room after the game to apologise for the ‘rushed’ manner of the medal presentations. The fact that Howard had the grace (and class) to do so, speaks volumes as, does the fact that he felt it necessary to issue an apology in the first place!
"We're taking Bill back home!" How the Wallabies won the 1991 Rugby World Cup
‘My all time favourite, though, is the long article in the run-up to the last RWC arguing that England, as a rugby board and a COUNTRY, was simply too dishonest and unworthy to be allowed to even stage a RWC…’
Yes. How DARE the RFU stage a competition and (then) conspire to have Wales and Australia in the same group and thereafter… manipulate events whereby the latter team wins the game that puts England out of their own RWC!!
Urrrrhg! Those ‘soap dodgers’ are beyond the pale!
"We're taking Bill back home!" How the Wallabies won the 1991 Rugby World Cup
On the basis of this link alone, rebel, I would agree that the evidence for John Howard ‘hurling’ medals is rather inconclusive. However, two of the players involved in the presentation have their own perspective. Watch from around 2:17:55
"We're taking Bill back home!" How the Wallabies won the 1991 Rugby World Cup
‘In any of those articles does it mention him hurling the medal at anyone?’
Am I missing something?
Possibly. Read Martin Johnson’s quote again, in the article from the Guardian.
"We're taking Bill back home!" How the Wallabies won the 1991 Rugby World Cup
It has been said that ‘in war, truth is the first casualty’.
Spiro has been waging ‘war’ against England and it’s rugby team for a long, long time now and as pointed put by other posters, this so-called ‘historical’ piece contains many inaccuracies.
He begins: ‘There is always an agenda behind the selection of the host country and venues for a Rugby World Cup.’ Nothing wrong with that statement, in general but the truth is, there is always an agenda behind the selection of England, as the backdrop to one of Spiro’s articles.
Sad.
"We're taking Bill back home!" How the Wallabies won the 1991 Rugby World Cup
Thanks Geoff. What’s the latest on Retallick? Is he going to recover in time? It would be a crying shame if he doesn’t.
The Wrap: Cheika plays his cards while Hansen still shuffles his World Cup deck
Tis a concern indeed, Fionn… though I think the team are less likely to capitulate, when the Saracens contingent (Mako, Itoje, Kruis, Billy and Farrell) are all together in the starting XV. They are all part of a club side where winning and ‘getting over the line’ has become deeply embedded in the culture of the team. I believe this rubs off on the other players… I also think that Mako and Itoje’s absence through injury hurt England at the tail end of this year’s 6N. While both are world class players, it’s the leadership they offer on the field that England really missed.
The Wrap: Cheika plays his cards while Hansen still shuffles his World Cup deck
Hi Geoff. I was wondering who, in your opinion are the indispensable players in Cheika’s squad if the WB’s are going to ‘go deep’?
The Wrap: Cheika plays his cards while Hansen still shuffles his World Cup deck
Thanks T-Man. I kind of assumed that Crotty would always be Hansen’s first choice at 12 if, or when fit, for the reasons you’ve outlined? I think (and in spite of Laumape’s impact) the AB’s really missed him after his hamstring went during the Lions series, In your view would Slade play alongside him if a kiwi?
Six paths to hoist the World Cup
Neutral, I think Ireland already received a ‘reality check’ during their opening game against England in this year’s 6N and throughout the tournament in general where they really didn’t fire. If I were an Irish supporter I would be seriously concerned that their team (following a 40 point drubbing and with their confidence ‘dented’) may lose their remaining warm-up game(s) against Wales and board the plane to Japan with no wins, no momentum and possibly no Sexton or Carberry.
As FunBus said Youngs has not had much game-time recently. Unless he demonstrates a massive dip in form or the standard he’s capable of – then I can see him starting in EJ’s top run-on side. He’s a quality player – and with around 80 caps that kind of experience will be needed in the team as it approaches the knock-out phase of the competition.
England absolutely humiliate Ireland in phenomenal display in London
We’re so glad he isn’t Blessing 🙂
In your view, would he start for the AB’s if Goodhue was fit?
Six paths to hoist the World Cup
Crikey. Spiro complimenting an England player (and team). I nearly choked on my ‘Twinings’. The earth has indeed shifted on its axis…
SPIRO ZAVOS: Skelton a force of nature, All Blacks' strategic error that has put their World Cup in peril