Derby Day preview: Group 1 preview and selections

By Cameron Rose / Expert

Three are three Group 1’s on offer tomorrow at Randwick, with prohibitive ‘red’ odds on offer about each favourite.

You’ll get just over double your money for combining them in a multi, which is not really my go. But it could be an easy way to turn one house into two, as Weekend Hussler’s trainer Clinton McDonald used to say before his champion stepped out.

Black Caviar is the headline act, as she has been everywhere she goes for several years now. If she starts in the TJ Smith, It will be only her second run in Sydney, having previously taken out this race in 2011, the scene of arguably her greatest triumph.

Yesterday, Roar editor Tristan Rayner posed the question of whether the great mare is a betting proposition in the race.

Factors that have us seeing fractionally better odds than usual are: the possible slow track, which she’ll run on if it’s a six (imagine the pressure on the track curator to keep it that way if it starts to edge toward a seven later in the day!), opposition tactics preventing Luke Nolen from finding a gap from barrier one, and her lack of experience racing clockwise.

I’m not sure any of that will matter, in fact I’m sure it won’t, but the unasked question of the week is this: have we seen the last of Black Caviar?

Despite the weather forecast suggesting a track that will be in suitable condition for her to race, recent fluctuations in Sydney weather must prepare us for a situation where the track condition is downgraded to a slow seven or worse.

If this is the case, punters wanting to have a look at her large, magnificent frame will have to visit the stalls, because they won’t be seeing her on the track.

Talk has been getting stronger of a return visit to Royal Ascot for Black Caviar, this time on opening day for the King’s Stand. If this is the path chosen by connections, as the strong mail is suggesting, it’s doubtful she’ll run again beforehand.

As we know, the champion racehorse of our time didn’t take well to the travel last time around.

As has been well documented, almost everything that could go wrong, did. Trainer Peter Moody has since said that under the same circumstances, he wouldn’t run her again.

We can’t rule out the possibility, or even the likelihood, of things going wrong once more. International travel is no easy feat for a finely tuned thoroughbred, and can’t be taken for granted.

In Black Caviar’s favour this time is that she’ll only have had two or three runs in our summer and autumn period, coming off a 34-week break. Previously, she was coming off eight runs over three mini-preps with only the bare spell in-between times.

If she does travel all the way over to England, whether she races or not, she’ll surely be sent to mate with Frankel, and her racing days will be done.

Hopefully my fears are unfounded, and she’ll be in the mounting yard come 5pm on Saturday, ready to take out the Australian record of 15 Group 1 wins. But we should prepare ourselves for the opposite just in case.

Bel Sprinter is the obvious pick for second in Sydney’s greatest weight-for-age sprint after his blitzkrieg in the Galaxy a fortnight ago, and hopefully Hay List is back close to his best and can invoke memories of the last time he took it to Black Caviar in this race.

TJ Smith Selections: 1. Black Caviar 2. Bel Sprinter 3. Hay List 4. Sea Siren

Overreach will be looking to become the seventh horse to back up a Golden Slipper win with a Sires Produce victory.

Importantly, trainer Gai Waterhouse has done exactly this with her last three Slipper winners, and there seems no reason why she won’t do it a fourth with this brilliant filly.

An extra 200m wouldn’t have made much difference last week, and I don’t see how it can this time.

Guelph is the runner behind Overreach from the Slipper you want to be on at place odds, or even a win bet at value.

Champollion didn’t beat much in the Ballieu but did it in style. Peter Moody is having a throw at the stumps with A Man Up trying to win a Group 1 at its second start, and he might be worth keeping an eye on.

Sires Produce Selections: 1. Overreach 2. Guelph 3. Champollion 4. A Man Up

The other Group 1 is the AJC Derby, a race that’s often produced a winner which has gone on to produce great racetrack feats.

It would be a brave man to bet against It’s a Dundeel doing both of these things.

His win in the Randwick Guineas was spectacular in its ease and style, but the follow-up victory in the Rosehill Guineas was truly breathtaking. Almost every good judge immediately stamped him as a future WFA contender, and few were lining up to disagree.

Phillipi won the Tulloch like a good horse, and a bright future for him seems assured. He’s yet to run a bad race in his short career, and won’t be doing so here.

Kingdoms ran honestly in the Rosehill Guineas, and is bred to run the trip right out. Bass Straight seems a dead-set stayer who might provide huge value for the multiples.

AJC Derby Selections: 1. It’s a Dundeel 2. Phillipi 3. Kingdoms 4. Bass Straight

The Crowd Says:

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2013-04-12T23:35:06+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Some excellent points there Justin, and this is the problem with one owner having conflicting interests. No doubt Werrett isn't complaining, but sometimes racing suffers. It's not a bad thing to retire while at the top, alas Makybe Diva, but we'd love to see her keep going either. The pressure to make the rights decisions would be enormous. No, it's not going to happen. I'd prefer some sort of 'race of the century' as previously discussed in these pages, but that's not going to happen either. None of us are going to get what we truly want!

2013-04-12T08:37:57+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Cam, you're right, her owners have minds of their own - their individual objectives, biases and conflicts of interests. For someone like Neil Werrett - who owns Snitzlerland - having Black Caviar retired after Royal Ascot would be in his best interests. It means Snitzerland can target a handful of G1 sprints in Melb (like the Patinack and Lightning) that will make her an even more valuable commodity. Then there's the romance of having Werrett and Wilkie retire All Too Hard (who they also have shares in) and Black Caviar on the same day (the opening day) of Royal Ascot. On top of that, the owners seem keen to get back to Royal Ascot - it's obviously a wonderful experience for them.. But, I think Moody is right, Black Caviar isn't ready to be retired yet. She, by all reports, is at the top of her game. Why would you end it now? I forgot to mention it but Moody also said Black Caviar is a really happy horse at the moment. I think there's every reason to continue to race her. If I owned her, I'd love to see her win one more G1 handicap - to really silence the critics out there. That would be something very special - perhaps they could aim her at a Stradbroke (unlikely because of the quality of field = big weight and distance - 1400m) or next year's Newmarket. For me, that would cement her legacy forever. But, I have to be realistic, it's not going to happen.

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2013-04-12T08:01:36+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


I think it's more a sense of unfinished business for connections Bondy, as well as the potential mating with Frankel. It would be great to see her go over there and really dominat them.

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2013-04-12T08:00:02+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Great insight Justin, that's incredibly bullish from Moody. We must note that you haven't made any reference to her BC's owners there though. I've been hearing that they're getting more and more likely to want her to take care of 'unfinished business' on the world stage. The only problem with continuing on in Australia is that some of her races will be against substandard opposition. As I think you pointed out before, her plans are known well in advance, so connections of other horses have the opportunity to steer clear and often do. Allanthus - I wonder if there's a bet for who wil win by more, IAD or BC? I'd imagine IAD would be favourite in that scenario, let's hope we see something really special tomorrow.

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2013-04-12T07:49:07+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Moody the Queenslander would obviously love to see her run again in her home state. I'm not sure where I stand on what I want from her. She's given racing so much, I just don't want it to end!

2013-04-12T01:42:07+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


I agree that it's fantastic that BC is pushing on - I think we were resigned to Moody pulling the pin after Ascot, or at least doing so if he felt she didn't come back 100%, so this is all bonus territory. She could retire at any point now and obviously cement an incredible legacy, but to extend that run to 30, or in that vicinity, is just something else again - whether she races in Brisbane, HK or the UK, I really don't think it matters any more. Looking forward to It's A Dundeel turning it on again tomorrow - what a great little horse he's been so far.

2013-04-11T22:24:46+00:00

Bondy

Guest


Moody says he didn't want to travel her again after last years events assuming transportation wasn't the main problem with her over there she was then a 5yr old mare and they may want to go back with a now 6 yr old mare ?,in travelling horses generally racemares are the ones that play up or give a greater concern more so than a 4-5 yr old gelding. Although ironically I feel they will send her to Frankel,so it does apperar Ascot is well and truly on the cards,it fits so perfectly for her last run to be foreign "Ascot" and then get served by Frankel, possibly the two greatest horses to ever grace racetracks in both spheres. Good preview Cam.

2013-04-11T20:52:07+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


I listened to an extended interview with Peter Moody last night. The interview was on Sky Channel's Off The Rails program - I've never seen him sound so confident and bullish about Black Caviar before. I don't think the wet weather is going to come into play here - I think we'll be racing on a dead 4 tomorrow - good weather predicted today and Saturday. The key thing Moody said was that he doesn't want the mare to go to Royal Ascot this year - he wants to keep racing her in Australia for as long as possible. He said the mare hasn't looked as good as she does now in three or four years. After trackwork at Caulfield early this week, Moody told Luke Nolen "I think that's the best work she's ever done" and Nolen replied "I wouldn't say it's the best work she's ever done but she hasn't gone better". Moody described Black Caviar as completely "painless" and the reason why they'd scratch on a wet track is not because she wouldn't get through it but they don't want to risk her - he's finally got her 100% sound. Moody even came up with his own program for Black Caviar - perhaps tongue in cheek - wins the TJ, up to Brisbane back for the spring, a fourth Lightning next autumn, back to Sydney for a third TJ... I think that's where he stopped himself - didn't want to get too far ahead of things (even though he already had!) I think that would be fantastic. I hope the owners oblige.

2013-04-11T17:33:10+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


Should be a great day. i hope BC doesn't run in the UK, much better races and more prizemoney in Brisbane giving the people a chance in QLD to have a look at her. if she was to go overseas it would be great if she went to HK and won the international sprint worth 1.83mln compared tho the 500k available at royal ascot and generally a much better field. it would be a shame that if she got scratched, the cynic in me is that moody and the owners are too obsessed with her unbeaten record

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