Which AFL teams can forget about finals?

By Callam P / Roar Pro

We are only five rounds in, but some teams have already shown enough to indicate that they will not feature in the September action.

Below are the teams that can safely organise their end of season trips, family holidays and weddings for September.

Greater Western Sydney Giants

This is no surprise as even coach Kevin Sheedy would not expect the Giants to make the eight in their second season.

Although the Giants have yet to win a game they have been more competitive than they were during 2012, with a percentage of 64 percent compared with 46 percent last season. For the Giants, growth should be measured more in competitiveness rather than in wins and losses.

But the future remains bright for the Giants. They have dramatically improved their forward line play, while the improvement of youngsters such as Dylan Shiel, Stephen Coniglio and Jonathan Patton (pre-injury) indicate that the future is rosy for the Western Sydney club.

Of some concern is the early season struggles of Toby Greene, who has found it more difficult now that he receives more attention from opposing players.

Melbourne Demons

Melbourne’s struggles have been well-documented both on The Roar and elsewhere.

It became obvious that the Demons were no hope of featuring in September about half-way through the third quarter of their 79-point loss to Port Adelaide in Round 1. Coupled with a 148 point demolition at the hands of Essendon a week later, some were left wondering whether the Demons were one of the worst teams of all-time.

But the Demons scrapped together a win against Greater Western Sydney, with a dominant last quarter more than offsetting a disappointing performance over the first three quarters. However, after five rounds the Demons have only won two quarters of football (by comparison, the next worst is the Giants with five quarters won).

It is unlikely that the Demons will win more than a few games in 2013, and many expect significant changes over the off-season. The only shining light to date is that they will likely avoid the wooden spoon.

Western Bulldogs

The Dogs surprised everyone in Round 1 with a stunning win over the NAB Cup champions the Brisbane Lions. As the weeks progressed we discovered that the victory probably said more about Brisbane than it did about a Dogs’ resurgence.

This season will be tough for the Dogs, and their fans should not expect more than a handful of victories. But at least the Dogs have been more competitive than many had expected, particularly last weekend against an undefeated Cats outfit.

For the Dogs this season is about developing young talent and creating the foundations that can lead to another finals assault. The growth in youngster Tom Liberatore has been remarkable, particularly considering how he finished last season, and Mitch Wallis continues to be an exciting prospect.

The challenge for the Dogs will be whether their youngsters can improve quickly enough to return to the finals before their older players such as Matthew Boyd, Robert Murphy and Daniel Cross retire.

St Kilda Saints

After five rounds the only team that the Saints have defeated is Greater Western Sydney. They have suffered losses against both Gold Coast and Richmond, two teams that their supporters would have considered them good chances for victory.

The big names are still there for the Saints, but increasingly there are too many passengers in the St Kilda line-up.

Nick Reiwoldt has been exceptional this season and is possibly playing his best football since he tore his hamstring in 2010. Both Leigh Montagna and Ben McEvoy are playing excellent football, while Lenny Hayes still leads by example even if he is not quite the footballer he once was.

But the responsibilities have been left to too few and there is a genuine lack of depth at the Saints.

The coaching staff should be happy with the development of Jack Stevens and Steven Armitage, but otherwise there has been little to celebrate for coach Scott Watters and the Saints’ fans.

Brisbane Lions

Following an excellent NAB Cup win expectations were high for the Brisbane Lions this season. Rightfully so given their finish to the 2012 season which saw them storm home to finish on ten wins.

But a shock 68-point loss to the Dogs in the first round forced many of us to re-evaluate the Lions. Normally pre-season form is a solid indicator of how a team is travelling and it was perfectly reasonable for analysts to have high expectations for the Lions. But those expectations have not been realised and the Lions are playing uninspired football.

Captain Jonathan Brown has struggled, with the years of punishment finally catching up with him. Statistically his season seems reasonable but it reflects two solid performances against Melbourne and Gold Coast, while he has managed just one goal in his other three games against more highly-regarded opposition.

Champion midfielder Simon Black has yet to play a game and might make a difference when he returns, but at 34 years old he should no longer be expected to carry the midfield load.

It has not been all bad news. Pearce Hanley has been excellent, while Tom Rockliff has returned to his best after an, at times, inconsistent 2012 season. Brent Moloney has proved to be an inspired free agent signing and it is simply amazing that he could not get a game for Melbourne last year.

Brisbane could certainly turn it around but they will need Brown to be performing at a high level to do so. I would not be hugely surprised if they were contending for the finals later in the season, but for now I think they will prove to be one of the disappointments of 2013.

Gold Coast Suns

After five games they have two wins and a percentage of 95 percent. They have also won ten of the twenty quarters they have contested. Coach Guy McKenna must be pleased with his Suns’ progression this season.

The Suns will fall short of the finals but it is becoming increasingly obvious that they are improving at a rapid rate. It would not surprise this analyst if they are contention for the top eight in 2014.

Ablett has been excellent as always, but it has been the improved form of the Suns’ youngsters which have accounted for the dramatic improvement. Charlie Dixon is playing inspired football, while so far Jaegar O’Meara is proving to be every bit as good as the hype suggested. Swallow, Bennell and Prestia are also playing great football.

Nevertheless with the team so young it is still going to be difficult to finish the season, and when the better teams begin to flex their muscles the Suns will find themselves at the end of some large thrashings.

The two biggest omissions from this list are West Coast and North Melbourne.

West Coast have been far from impressive this season but they have won more quarters than they have lost, which indicates that they are better than their record suggests. North is similar, having suffered tight losses to the likes of Hawthorn and Geelong.

At one-and-four it would be easy to discount both teams’ finals aspirations but they remain only two games outside the eight. North in particular are playing football that would beat many higher placed opponents.

West Coast has not played good football this season, but with a range of quality personnel set to return I believe they will come home strongly over the second half of the season.

We are only five rounds in but already six teams have little chance of featuring in September. For fans of Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, St Kilda, Brisbane and Gold Coast it will be a long season.

Some fans will be bitterly disappointed as their team falls short of expectations, while for fans of the Dogs, Suns and Giants I expect they will simply be happy to see the steady improvement of their young talent.

That leaves twelve teams fighting for the final eight, and there is little margin of error for both North Melbourne and West Coast.

Another poor performance by both these teams this weekend and it would become increasingly unlikely that they can make the eight.

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-06T04:22:00+00:00

Jax

Guest


Geez the eight is gonna be tight and Richmond & WC are sitting 9th & 10th respectively atm. I can't see WC missing the eight so who will drop out to make way for them? I think it will be Carlton or Port but most likely Port as they haven't played many quality sides so the draw will be get tougher on the run home and they should slip. Port did play WC but WC should have beaten them by 10 goals if they had kicked straight so the quality sides will go to the town on them IMO.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T04:11:27+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


Teams such as St KIlda might help shape the eight as the season progresses. But at 1 and 5, with the veterans such as Riewoldt and Montagna playing very good football, I just don't see them challenging for the eight this season. They have been mostly competitive in their losses but it would take a monumental effort for them to be making noise later in the seaosn. As for RIchmond, North and West Coast I consider all three teams a solid chance for the eight, though all three are unlike to make it.

2013-05-06T02:14:17+00:00

Jakus

Guest


Richmond and to a lesser extent, St. Kilda are dangerous to those teams striving for the top eight. St. Kilda always seem to handle Carlton well and, at Carlton's bogey ground, Round 7 is a danger game. Richmond may end up 9th again with West Coast building a head of steam and Nth Melbourne overcoming a difficult start to the year with a tough draw So you can't write off a few sides yet especially so early in the season. A run of injuries can cripple a side and take away their momentum - look at Carlton last year!

2013-05-03T11:20:15+00:00

Jax

Guest


or maybe the AFL will cover it up like they did with the Dees tanking debacle? AFL wants to protect its brand at all costs based on past actions

2013-05-02T11:17:21+00:00

the_tarje

Guest


The lions were guilty of believing the own hype in my opinion. Remembering this was the first time the media probably had anything good to say about the club for since 2009. Being such a young list I'm sure it went to their heads a bit. Hopefully they will learn from this.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T10:25:07+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


It's definitely a long season and very few teams should be confident of making the eight. Essendon and Port fans definitely shouldn't be getting ahead of themselves. I've written off St Kilda mainly because their best players are playing well and they are still losing. Reiwoldt has been fantastic, Montagna's doing pretty well, McEvoy has been great and Hayes has dropped off a little but he is 33 years old. I'd need to see a lot more from their less experienced players to believe that they can challenge for the eight this season.

2013-05-02T09:58:58+00:00

Bogga

Guest


Never underestimate the affect a long season has on young bodies. Port Adelaide will struggle at years' end as a lot of their best players are younger and need a season or two more to last a season in both form and conditioning. Bulldogs, GC and GWS will all drop away towards the end of the season. Melbourne can't get any worse, and their list isn't all that old, so I haven't included them in these group of teams. Way too early to write off St Kilda with Riewoldt and Hayes in the team. Especially while there's teams in the top 8 like Richmond (who we all know will finish 9th). Maybe they won't leapfrog all the teams between them and 8th, but I wouldn't be suprised to see them in the mix. Essendon and Carlton had starts last year like Port Adelaide's this year and they missed the finals. Essendon may come tumbling too and if Freo don't have Pavlich for much of the year, they'll be very susceptible. I would say Geelong, Hawthorn and Sydney are the teams with the depth and form to say will definitely make the 8. All the others could tumble out.

2013-05-02T09:02:33+00:00

Richard

Guest


I have never been a port fan but have nothing but admiration for what they are doing. Even if they finish 10th this year then what a remarkable story. You cannot but draw the parallels with the dees. The mind boggles at the way in which they have gone about things. Mark Neeld strikes me as a very honest decent man but it is pretty obvious he is not the many to steer to the team. Jackson will deliver positive change across all levels of the club from the board, admin, to the footy department. Realistically he has to otherwise despite their historical significance they will become irrelevant as a club.

2013-05-02T08:54:36+00:00

nmj1654

Roar Rookie


Bingo. It's dogged the club for years and will continue to do so.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:54:34+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


I personally cannot believe the difference in the team that played such great football in the NAB Cup and how they are playing now. I know that NAB Cup form is not always indicative of whether a team is good or not but it is often a fair indicator. I saw them live against North Melbourne a couple of weeks ago and they were dreadful. They were extremely hesitant bringing the ball up the field and there were so many opportunities to take a risk and create something but it never happened. I'm not sure what is going on at Brisbane but something has clearly changed since the season began. Could Voss' time be up? It wouldn't surprise me.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:51:27+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


I don't think Hinkley's success will have any bearing on Neeld's future at Melbourne. But I don't think it would be necessarily unreasonable to judge Neeld against what has happened at Port. Only a couple of years ago, many would have said that Melbourne had the better squad and brighter future. I consider it highly unlikely that Neeld will be at the Demons next season and I think that his position will be seen as untenable before the season is out. It is not necessarily his fault, the front office deserves some blame, but the entire club really needs a fresh start.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:46:31+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


Expectations were high for the Lions this season, they finished 2012 strongly and there was reason for optimism. Anytime a coach fails to meet expectations they will be in a bit of trouble, particularly when the team plays worst than the season before.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:44:35+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


There is still a fair bit that is unknown regarding the Essendon situation and the investigation is obviously ongoing. It is not clear who was injected, or for how long, or what the likely short and long-term effects would be. I think we should be hesitant in jumping to conclusions. I think it is a stretch to blame Essendon's fast start this season with a supplement program that, as I understand it, finished before Essendon's pre-season began. Surely the supplement program would have had a greater effect on their 2012 season rather than this season? Do you think they have continued to use PEDs while the investigation is done? Also, improving substantially cannot be used as evidence of drug abuse. Every season there are teams that improve dramatically from the season before (for example, Adelaide in 2012, West Coast in 2011, Geelong in 2007). There have been plenty of more remarkable improvements than Essendon's - including this season. The stance on drugs does not differ in the AFL, Olympics or TDF, in all three you have to be caught (by a test or through an investigation) before you can be punished. Essendon will be punished if there is conclusive evidence of PEDs, in the same way that other athletes have been punished in other sports. But you cannot pre-emptively punish them as it would set a terrible precedent.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:31:40+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


Well I was aiming for teams that I was certain to miss. Adelaide is probably the most likely to miss of the 12 teams I didn't mention, particularly after Tex went down. As for Essendon, who knows what will happen there? Personally I suspect that it won't end with the ASADA investigation, there will also be lawsuits and appeals and by the time that is completed I suspect we will be in 2014 before the Bombers face any formal punishment. Lawyers are going to have a field day.

AUTHOR

2013-05-02T06:28:12+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


The Kangas are a bit stiff to be 1-4, with a really tough start to the year. I expect them to be in the mix for the 7th or 8th position near the end of the season. I like Richmond but I also tend to think that they do not have the composure to win the tight games and in what I think is a fairly even season that will prove their undoing.

2013-05-02T05:07:29+00:00

Liam

Guest


You're right. You and I can see that. But given the self-protecting Melbourne administration *is* still in power at MFC, the question remains, will Port's success, should it eventuate, stamp Neeld's papers?

2013-05-02T03:57:19+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


Yes,the Lions list is in poor shape, but yes, Voss' time is just about up. Surely. He's not the main reason the Lions list is so poor; awful recruiting from 2001-2007 is the biggest reason. But he still has to share a decent slice of the blame. Even the Lions' better players aren't performing consistently.

2013-05-02T03:10:38+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


I don't believe Lions list is that great a shape. Yeah it's probably not basket case like the Demons but it's certainly not one that Clubs would be scrambling to get a hold of.

2013-05-02T03:03:18+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


No - Hinkley has KEY advantages that Neeld never had. At Port Adelaide they crushed the toxic internal corporate culture, replacing CEO and President and getting very determined, talented individuals in their place. Melbourne's woes have started from the front office and the arrogant sods have never contemplated throwing themselves on their swords for the sake of their club like those at Port Adelaide did. Neeld is pushing it uphill because he is hamstrung on the field by what is happening around him outside of it.

2013-05-02T02:52:55+00:00

Liam

Guest


Will be a knife to the coaching career of Mark Neeld if Ken Hinkley gets Port into the finals this year? There's more to Neeld's future than the fate of Port Adelaide, of course, but that would be a damning stat given the plight and lack of hope at both clubs at the end of last year.

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