Geelong versus Essendon should be at the MCG

By Callam P / Roar Pro

The AFL will not move Friday nights clash between Geelong and Essendon from Etihad Stadium to the MCG. But they should.

Both Geelong and Essendon enter the game undefeated, following wins against Richmond and GWS respectively. Top spot is on the line.

Last year a crowd of 50,066 attended the round 17 match between Geelong and Essendon. It was the largest crowd at Etihad in 2012.

AFL spokesman Patrick Keane said moving the game from the Docklands stadium would not be considered.

“Basically we haven’t moved games because of the last two broadcast deals,” Keane said.

“We have fixture agreements with each of our venues, which guarantees them a number of games, and obviously once games are locked in with reserve ticket sales, we commit to the venue.”

Nevertheless, the unwillingness of the AFL to move games when demand warrants it is a short-sighted stance. The match on Friday will draw around 50,000 people, while at the MCG the game would draw around 20,000 to 30,000 more.

It promises to be a huge game, with a lot on the line and supporters from both clubs and neutrals from neither keen to be there.

Unfortunately many will be stuck watching it on their couch.

One argument against a venue change is that Etihad is guaranteed a specific number of games but also a number of high quality games, which I presume is defined by the number of people in attendance.

I have no problem with that but it is clear that the distribution of games between the two stadiums could be improved.

Another argument is that those setting the fixture could not have known that the demand for the game would be so great.

Both arguments are nonsense.

There are a number of games that could be played at Etihad rather than the MCG and still draw an excellent crowd.

For example, in round two Essendon played Melbourne at the MCG in front of 51,153 people. Had the game been scheduled at Etihad it would have drawn fewer people but it most likely would have still drawn around 45,000 people, which would constitute a ‘quality’ game for Etihad.

In round five, Hawthorn played North Melbourne at Etihad drawing 42,103 people. Had it been played at Etihad it would have drawn a similar crowd.

Naturally there are also plenty of games over the remaining rounds that would be more suitable at Etihad and still draw large crowds. For example, Hawthorn versus Sydney (Round 7) and St Kilda versus Melbourne (Round 13) were two that jumped straight out.

Rescheduling a game from the MCG to Etihad would also be easy. Surely St Kilda would rather play Melbourne at their own home ground?

It seems clear that the Geelong versus Essendon match can be moved without compromising Etihad’s guarantee of a specific number of ‘quality’ games.

As for demand it should have been easy to predict that the demand could outstrip the capacity of Etihad Stadium. Last year the match drew 50,066 people, the year before it drew 43,806 people. When the fixture was created it was reasonable to believe that Essendon would be better than they were last season. It was therefore reasonable to believe that this fixture could pull well over 50,000 people.

Unfortunately this situation is not without precedent. In 2009 the same thing happened when St Kilda played Geelong in round 14 with both teams undefeated. Again a significant number of people missed out on the opportunity to see a great game of football.

I will be attending Friday night’s game and I am sure the atmosphere will be phenomenal but it is unfortunate that so many fans will miss out on the opportunity to be there.

Sometimes the AFL needs to remember that the fans are the only reason that the AFL has a $1.25 billion broadcast deal and the only reason why AFL attendances are the highest in the country.

With all the negative publicity the AFL has faced in 2013, would it have done them any harm to make a decision that benefited the fans?

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-08T03:20:22+00:00

Sam

Guest


Hawks and Sydney will get more then 50,000

2013-05-07T04:12:43+00:00

Redb

Roar Guru


Should be a cracking game 1v2 both undefeated and play a similar exciting style. Packed house and massive TV ratings.

2013-05-06T04:56:04+00:00

JamesP

Guest


This is a non issue for mine. Matches can't and won't be shifted. It is what it is. The only thing you could pin on the AFL is not having the foresight to schedule this game at the G from the beginning. However, as others have said, most people would not have had either the Cats or the Dons in their top 4 this year. The Cats were supposed to slide down the ladder, and no one knew how the Dons would react to the Drug allegations. There is always a game or 2 every year that will out draw the capacity of Etihad. That's life. Once the AFL takes ownership of it, things may change.

2013-05-06T04:52:45+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


Definitely. Considering the strife Essendon were in at the start of the season, and the predictions that Geelong would be a lower-top 8 team, it was hardly like this game was going to be a marquee fixture.

2013-05-06T04:35:53+00:00

The Pivotonian

Guest


They've been on sale for months. Those trying to buy tickets today are the fairweathers.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T04:17:28+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


Could be a number of reasons. They could be older, with no access to the internet which makes booking more difficult. They could be waiting until they get paid to make sure that they can afford to go. They may have tried to use Ticketmasters website and given up because it is horrible - which almost happened to me. They could be organising a group to go and that always takes time. Alternatively they just may not be aware that demand is so high.

2013-05-06T04:08:27+00:00

The Pivotonian

Guest


Why had they not already booked a ticket? Serious question.

2013-05-06T03:56:35+00:00

Gyfox

Guest


I completely disagree with you, Nick When the AFL schedule came out in October I pencilled in the interstate games I wanted to attend, fitting in with my plans. I immediately booked 9 cheap fares & some inexpensive hotel nights. I usually book 3 nights. Sydney, Adelaide & the Gold Coast will get my tourist $$$ However, if I waited until 6 weeks before, I would not have been able to afford 9 trips.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T03:47:49+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


So we have reached the point where you are not a passionate fan unless you are booked weeks in advance. I'm glad you are here to tell all the fans that they really are not as passionate about their clubs and they think they are.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T03:42:32+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


It might contribute a little bit. Some people may base buying a membership on how many games they expect to make and if they don't know what day / time their teams games are going to be they may choose to hold off. But I think that factor would be relatively low and certainly not as big a factor as smaller stadiums.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T03:40:18+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


I thought that was the case but I wasn't sure. I lived in Sydney for a number of years and remember them telling me that fans from interstate rarely seemed to travel.

2013-05-06T03:16:55+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


Really, it should have been scheduled at Kardinia.

2013-05-06T03:02:47+00:00

Nathan of Perth

Guest


NRL this year got and exercised the right to fix their draw's venue and time out for to the end of week 20 this year. Have already seen an uptick in interstate travel, I believe.

2013-05-06T02:52:20+00:00

Franko

Guest


Fair point, it certainly made travelling Europe difficult as games could be anywhere from Friday 20:00 to Sunday 17:00. I guess it works for them as the TV audience is far far greater than those at the ground and therefore TV is king.

2013-05-06T02:51:43+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


How on earth is not having a fixed draw the reason for lagging memberships in the NRL!? Smaller stadiums, inconvenient locations of the stadiums and high membership prices are the reason why NRL memberships are low.

2013-05-06T02:48:26+00:00

The Pivotonian

Guest


The "so many fans [who] will miss out" are clearly not that passionate or they would have snapped up a ticket before they sold out within the past 24 hours.

2013-05-06T02:46:59+00:00

Nick

Roar Guru


The NRL don't finalise times and specific venue until 6 weeks out of the game. 6 weeks is plenty of time for an interstate supporter to otganise travel. The AFL pay the price for wanting to provide a fixed draw every year. It's a pity the game cant be moved to the G....but it is what it is. Remember when Geelong and St Kilda played in 2009. They were both 13-0, and the game was still played at Etihad. A contract is a contract .

2013-05-06T02:41:33+00:00

mds1970

Roar Guru


I hope the AFL never goes down that road. When people buy memberships, intending to attend games, it's easier to make that decision when there's certainty when the games are going to be - and that way, they can then schedule their lives (work rosters, accepting invitations to weddings & parties, booking interstate trips) etc. It's a hard sell for clubs to sell memberships if they can't tell the prospective members when the games are going to be played. It's a big reason why NRL club memberships have lagged way behind AFL's.

AUTHOR

2013-05-06T02:36:08+00:00

Callam P

Roar Pro


I don't like the NRL situation because it makes it more difficult for fans to travel interstate. For example, if Hawthorn vs Sydney was shifted to Friday night it'd be problematic for the all the Sydney supporters who flew down to the match. Fans like to travel with their team and that's great so you want to have the schedule as finalised as possible. I just think that there should be systems in place to allow a venue shift at times when there is too much demand for the stadium.

2013-05-06T02:29:27+00:00

Franko

Guest


In La Liga and the Bundesliga everybody knows who is playing who for each round in advance but only the day and time a fortnight or so before, so that the big games can be scheduled accordingly. I thought the NRL did something similar in the back half of their year? Who knows, Port vs Essendon could be a blockbuster when it comes around??? In this instance the Hawthorn Sydney match could have been Friday night, thus keeping stadium contracts legit and Ess Geelong Saturday night at the G.

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