Don't knife McKenzie, where were the Wallabies?

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That video is gold! I can't understand how it only got a few thousand views

Did you catch Thorn punch Cooper in the head after 1:00 (16 minutes of game time) into you video? .....Ah you missed it because our team didn't have a tantrum about it. A complete contrast to the famous Cooper knee in McCaws head incident. Where the ABs threw a dummy spit ABs are bunch of sooks - they can dish it out but can't take it

Learn hiw to read a game it lost when QC came on though he definitely straightened the attack and made us look dangerous as for his restart Cruden done it on several occasions the ball not going 10 metres doesn't change a game, when your chasing a game mistakes are bound to happen. It's mackenzies no attack style evident from them going for goal when wide out when they could of attacked but with Tomoua calling shots you would go for goal Brumbies. We had 60% of the ball and he looked like he couldn't break the line of a school side with his shovelling of the ball sideways only putting pressure on his outside backs.

It is disrespectful to the game for those two to be classed as rugby experts. Marto you are an absolute joke. That other guy is a bad joke.

me too - AAC & Hooper head and shoulders above all the other wallabies. But unfortunately still behind just about every AB.

Agreed. It's no coincidence the ABs kept attacking his side. Had no idea who to mark. When he was marking up on the open side against a lineout, he was 20m infield marking Conrad Smith while his opponent was shaking hands with the assistant referee. What a surprise they got outside him. Schoolboy stuff. Stay on your winger and let AAC take the man inside. He just made it SSSOOOO easy for the ABs to get outside him all game and so much further for the cover to get across to try to tackle HIS MAN! Oh and can somebody please tell those other guys to PASS THE BALL TO FOLAU! He was unmarked on 3 or 4 occasions and didn't get the ball!! Unforgiveable.

Thanks Ian Again, these stats are excellent. As I thought, the stats are not pleasant viewing from my point of view. The All Blacks have won more than double the amount of games we have won since our re-admission. The Aussies record against New Zealand may be sorry reading, but they have certainly mended those statistics somewhat over recent times. Regarding our affinity with The AB's. This is something the Springbok supporters still hold dear to them as they were fierce rivals pre-isolation. For young All Black fans, that grew up during the isolation days, Australia became their main rival (as we were out of the picture). I think that rivalry has been lost to some extent. Australia have more than earned our respect over the years. They may have been a common enemy a few years back but as they have been consistently one of the top teams over the last 20 odd years, I'd like to think we've also developed a special rivalry with them. The Australians are naturally gifted sportsmen and the confidence that exudes from their players, I'm guessing, is often mistaken for arrogance by the Kiwi and Springbok fans. We loved to hate the Gregan & Larkham combo (only because they were so damn good). No, it is very important to us and the Kiwis that Australian rugby remains strong. I can't wait for the 7th September, should be a cracker! Cheers Brendan

Six tries? Having scored just ten in their last ten tests - they might be saying - -'I don't bloody believe it' like that grumpy old man in 'One Foot in the Grave'?

@ABC. I think what he means is that Dean's copped unfair criticism along the way. Yes he had 6 years; it was time for him to move on; but the personal attacks were unreasonable. He was and still is a great coach. He gave it his best. Wallabies just aren't as good as the All Blacks. Link is proving that. I think it's fair to complain about the kiwis booing Quade. I was at Suncorp last year for the 18-18 draw and the Queensland crowd booed their own national coach. That's disgraceful treatment in my book.

Hi Johnno Yes, the Boks were lucky in the rain, in Durban in that semi final. As Derek Bevan (a Welshman) was the ref for that game, we can't claim bias from a refereeing point of view. I think we were just lucky in the end. What is probably more controversial is the fact that that game was given the go ahead, even though the pitch was almost unplayable due to the downpour. It was do or die for South Africa. If we didn't play, we were out due to indiscipline. victories in world cup ties between two very evenly matched sides often come down to a bit of magic/luck or whatever you want to call it. Ours came in the semis & finals of the 1995 world cup & in the 2007 world cup by avoiding the ABs & Wallabies en route to the final. All the best Brendan

wtf...rugby_phile...wasn't Deans the most capped coach in Australian Rugby History...what kind of disgraceful treatment are you talking about here...if Link doesn't produce results in 6 year, the same will be done to him...

Well Said

The laws don't say you have to roll away from the ruck, they say you have to roll away from the ball. And seeing as Luatua is a good metre away....well, you're reaching rather than being pedantic. He's not interfering with anything. As for the offside - Horwill isn't part of the ruck there he went through the ruck and off his feet behind it. In fact at the time Genia gets his hands on the ball, the hindmost foot on the NZ side is probably Aaron Smith as Hore, Hooper, Horwill and the other Wallaby I can't identify have all detached. If you really want to be pedantic Hooper joins the ruck from the side and then interferes with Retallick who wasn't actually part of the ruck...... I disagree about the O'Connor situation, but I can see your point.

Thanks for the link. Actually I would argue that it shows the first three defenders next to the ruck are clearly offside, including Cruden, but hard to judge for certain from that angle, also hard to judge who the last person in the ruck actually is. Defenders need to be 'behind the last feet' but where that actually is, is hard to tell. From the pic though, No 6 could have been penalised for not rolling away from the ruck - but now I'm just being pedantic. Just because a player is stationary doesn't make it less of an obstruction. Depends on the angle of both the attacker and defender. Pretty easy to argue that O'Connor indeed had to alter his defending line because of the stationary player, thereby denied the opportunity to make the tackle earlier and that is in contravention of the law. In saying that O'Connor definitely could have milked it more rather than looking slightly bemused and confused. Off the tpoint slightly, but one thing the All Blacks have always done exceptionally well is have players who are street smart. They seem to adapt to different referees' interpretations far better than every other team.

Sure, but it requires that the player 'prevents' that opportunity and you'd be hard pressed to argue a stationary player who makes no contact with an opponent has prevented anything. I will say that if O'Connor were smarter he probably could have milked a penalty there. As for Cruden - http://31.media.tumblr.com/f24e2d09c300db35657890ee7350f884/tumblr_mrrliiNZWo1sg3nzko1_1280.png

Yeah perhaps. Totally disagree about Cruden as he was definitely offside, as was the All Blacks most of the night (at least Joubert was consistent there). Have a geeze at the obstruction rules - makes for interesting reading - you only have to be denied the opportunity to make a tackle.

@js-nz. We are witnessing test rugby played like game of chess with every move considered. Hansen out-thought McKenzie tactically by shifting play to O'Connor's wing all night. This is the same tactic that the Lions used to keep the ball away from Izzy. Link should have seen that coming. Slowly the rugby brains are unpicking Folau's game. Savea is quicker than him. We now know that Izzy is lacking the pure pace required to be a top-flight test winger in rugby union. But Folau is a talent there is no doubt. There is a place for him for sure but it's up to Link to re-think how he involves Izzy. I would move him to full-back and let the AB's target him and put pressure on his kicking game. He can kick and it'll give him the opportunity to run with ball in hand more often. If he plays on the wing next week they'll just kick in behind him and him turn him around exposing his lack of pace. So he has to be moved. Likewise for JOC. He either hugs the touchline properly or choose a specialist winger who doesn't get sucked in.

It's more of an indictment on how you saw the game. You've got a point about the scrum reset, but O'Connor never touched the player in front of the ball carrier or attempted a tackle so how can that be obstruction? And Cruden was miles onside.

The booing is just plain poor sportsmanship. It was sort of Ok for a while but now its just nasty, cynical, targeted and wrong. This is rugby union peole, so please start to act the way you should at the games. Show some class if you have any. There is no way I would boo at a game in NZ, not that i would ever want to. I don't think I would make it out of the stand let alone the stadium.