David Smith, please give the good seats back to the actual fans

By Tim Gore / Expert

Queen Victoria sat on the throne for 63 years, making her the longest serving British Monarch ever. Given her longevity of office, it is safe to assume she was quite astute. 

One of the pearls of wisdom she offered up was, “Give my people plenty of beer, good beer, and cheap beer, and you will have no revolution among them.”

Her basic point was that to keep the working classes happy you didn’t have to give them much, but you had to give them something good. 

During her reign there was no revolution or uprising, so there must have been plenty of good, cheap beer for the masses.

If beer was the key in the Victorian era, then things like the Xbox and smartphones – along with Queen Vickie’s booze – are what sedates and distract us from the ever widening gulf between the haves and have-nots these days.

One of the biggest distractions for the common man in our society is footy. Each weekend we head off in our droves to watch live matches. Like the commoners from ages ago flocking to fight under the banners of their local lords, we put on our replica jerseys and head down to the local stadium to yell our guts out and will our teams to victory.

The NRL’s ad for drumming up members in 2014 shows images of hard-core fans emblazoned in their clubs colours. These are the game’s foot soldiers, the ones on the barricades, in the trenches. The ad ends with the message, “You’re the difference.”

And it’s the truth. The NRL is only successful because everyday people do go to every match they can – rain, hail or shine. We go when our boys are carving it up as well as when they couldn’t win a chook raffle in a pub if they bought all the tickets and owned the chicken.

The NRL is at risk of marginalising these hardcore fans because they sell the best seats to their marquee events to the corporate sector and price the average punter out. While this may turn a lot of extra bucks in the short term, it ignores the fact that these common people are the reason the TV ratings are so high and the game is so popular. It also forgets that these fans add a passion to the games that can actually influence the results and make the atmosphere special.

The stats clearly show that parochial crowds have a profound impact on the fortunes of their sides.

Over the past two seasons, 55 per cent of all trys scored have been by the home team. That means that the home side on average scores 10 per cent more than their opposition. In the last two years, not one side has scored more of their trys away from their home ground.

Further, the away sides concede on average 6 per cent more penalties than the home sides. In fact, the Roosters concede a massive 14 per cent more penalties when on the road. In the last two years only Melbourne has conceded more penalties at home than when playing away.

The main reasons that home sides do better is that they have the crowd behind them. You only have to go to a game at Brookvale Oval, Parramatta Stadium, Penrith Park or Shark Park to see the difference a parochial crowd has on a game. 

Last season I was doing sideline commentary for the ABC at Brookvale Oval and I really had to admire the Sea Eagles fans. They roared encouragement for their side all evening and they were constantly on the back of the referees, claiming the opposition was cheating. While many of their claims suggested that their grip on the rules was tenuous, they won their side at least three penalties simply through the sheer noise of their demands. 

They were truly the Sea Eagles 18th player and they had a large part in their side winning that night. It’s not surprising Manly have scored a massive 61 per cent of their tries at home in the last two seasons.

However, the most parochial and intimidating crowd I’ve ever seen was at the old Lang Park. I had the fortune to go there in 1992, and the surging Queensland crowd roared for their team and bayed for the blood of their opponents. 

Refereeing decisions against them were met with howls of derision and deafening chants of “Bullshit!” There was no doubt that their team was massively strengthened by it. It was an awesome experience that I’ll never forget.

I had the good fortune to attend Origin 3 last week at Suncorp Stadium. Although my previous experience was 22 years earlier – and at a vastly different ground – I hoped that the soul of the old Lang Park would still be present and I would be enveloped by parochial Queensland pride.

What I got made me a bit sad.

I was lucky enough to be the guest of a corporate sponsor and the seats were sensational. However, I was aghast at the price printed on the ticket – they had paid over $200 for my seat. My seat was good, but there was one grade even more expensive. To put that in perspective, $200 is well on the way to a full season ticket with pretty much any NRL club, and it was being charged for just one seat at this game.

However, it wasn’t until just before the game began that I understood the real implications of those ticket prices. State of Origin legend Billy Moore ran out on to the field to rev up the crowd with his cry of “Queenslander!” To the north end he screamed, “Queenslander!” and three tiers of maroon-clad fanatics screamed back, “Queenslander!” The equally fanatical maroons in the southern end answered Billy with the same level of religious fervor.

However, the east and west sides received Billy’s exhortations with only slightly more enthusiasm than the crowd at the 2014 NRL grand final witnessing the out-of-place Ricky Martin, with his gyrations and arm waving.

It may have been a dead rubber, but something was amiss here.

While the seats at either end of the ground were stuffed full of fanatical fans yelling their guts out, the more expensive seats seemed to be full of only mildly interested spectators.

What confirmed this was the constant and very annoying stream of people leaving their seats and pushing past me during the game to do lord knows what. While there were pockets of vocal supporters around me, for the most part the real noise and atmosphere was coming from the cheap seats.

It was them who chanted “Bullshit!” when the calls went against their beloved Maroons. It was also them who started the “Gallen’s a wanker!” chant. 

OK, they weren’t exactly couth, but I bet there were a lot of Broncos and Titans members in those mobs. I also bet that Cam Smith and his boys loved hearing it as much as Gallen and his troops didn’t.

The State of Origin and the grand final are the jewels in the NRL crown. They rate through the roof on television and are a large part of the reason the NRL secured a five-year, one billion dollar TV rights deal.

However, those jewels are only possible because of the regular home-and-away matches played every weekend between March and August. And those matches are supported by the ordinary fans who front up week-in and week-out. They are the ones who care. They are the ones who yell. They are the real supporters.

So how can it be right that for the biggest games of the year that the majority of real supporters are consigned – at best – to the cheapest seats at either ends of the grounds? Wouldn’t it be great to have Blatchy’s Blues in the bays on either side of the players’ tunnel? Imagine the atmosphere.

What would Queen Victoria think of the powers that be denying the people their good, cheap beer? Apart from robbing Origin of much of the electric atmosphere I witnessed all those years ago, it may also begin to disenfranchise those rusted-on supporters. Who knows where they might turn? Rugby? AFL? Football?

Before it gets to that point David Smith, how about this: you can still sell corporate boxes, but only to organisations who actively support the NRL clubs week-in week-out as well, rather than those that just want to cherry-pick the top events.

Further – and most importantly – the actual NRL club members must get the first crack at Origin and grand final tickets. As there is a one billion dollar TV rights deal in play, those seats can afford to be made a fair bit cheaper for these people who really support the game too. 

Then perhaps we’ll see the Origin atmosphere of old return to all parts of the stadiums, rather than just being consigned to the cheap seats.   

After all, as your ad says, the fans are the difference.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T23:05:06+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Someone needs a hug...

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T22:30:02+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Multiple examples in my response to you yesterday Bazza. You've never heard of someone flying business class on frequent flyer points? Really? A great majority of that corporate crowd paid nothing at all for their tickets. They are there because they are a customer of a company, or know someone at a company. And that company more than likely writes the whole thing off as a business expense on tax. But it seems you're happy with all that Barry... However, I bet those maroons fans and Blatchy's Blues aren't at all.

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T22:19:15+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Not sure how much more simply it can be explained to you Bazza... You've clearly not understood what you've been told. But one more go: the more a fan buys the better the deal they get. Still with me? This is an extremely common business idea Baz.,So if they have a season ticket with a club the NRL rewards them for supporting the game in such a vital manner by giving them access to marquee tickets - and my suggestion was that perhaps $200+ a seat was a bit much for your average earner. Now you may be rolling in the filthy lucre Baz but many of us aren't. As there is a $1,000,000,000 tv rights deal in play I reckon the NRL can afford a slight drop in those extortionate prices for the loyal, signed up members who are the lifeblood of the game. Unless of course they don't give a damn about the hard core fans...

2014-07-17T15:30:42+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


the beer analogy was pointless and useless

2014-07-17T15:27:57+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Tim - you should write it again. Members who buy their tickets in bulk (ie for the whole season) do get better seats. Season ticket members get their seats right on the half way line. Why couldn't I go to the soccer world cup final for $5? But...I went to a Fulham v QPR game??? Do I have to pay premium prices for premium tickets...bloody NRL.

2014-07-17T15:16:52+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Tim...the fact is that if you pay more for tickets you get better seats. That is true in any sport, entertainment, etc, etc, etc. Don't make out that this is a shock horror NRL issue. Give me one example where a punter pays less for a better ticket, room, meal, flight, etc than someone who pays more. This whole article is a lame cheap shot.

2014-07-17T15:12:10+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


haha...agreed...they can just paint faces on the seats and manufacture some crowd noise and the soccer fans above will be happy...

2014-07-17T15:07:20+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


No I don't remember. This is about rugby league. Go troll elsewhere.

2014-07-17T06:08:19+00:00

Cadfael

Roar Guru


Your first two sentences are right on the mark. Why is the RLWC different to the NRL? Why is the ESL different to the NRL. Simple, the NRL plays to its rules not the International rule book. One referee works, two doesn't. When I started following the game, the two big grounds were the SCG and SSG with local grounds at North Sydney, Redfern, Belmore, etc. The suburban grounds may not have had their 20,000-30,000 spectators each week but they were generally comfortably full which gave the games atmosphere. Now we are restricted to Brookie, Penrith, Endeavour and Parra with the odd boutique game at Leichhardt or Campbelltown. Kogarah now has a maximum 4 games a year as does WIN who are now charging the Dragons interest on their loan because the number of games in the 'Gong has dropped by two a year. WIN can't get a finals game because the Dragons are classed as a city club, great for the fans of the Illawarra. The main reason is the NRL's push for more clubs to use Allianz and Homebush.

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T06:01:02+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


So how does Clarkson explain the Russian Revolution Chris?

2014-07-17T05:42:25+00:00

Andrew

Guest


Smithy doesn't care the actual fans, it's the corporates. As they has the money...it's pretty simple really. Leichhardt & Kogarah oval, they lose money then, even though I use to play there and the actual fans are there. 1.1 billion dollars for the rights with foxtel and Ch 9 and do they care??? Hell no!!!! My nephew he's 11 and doesn't play footy now. He does cricket and golf and his old Man had to do a meeting for your kids for playing footy. It's Bega.

2014-07-17T05:35:32+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


My wife was one of the "suits" at the game (one of the few who actually cared) and she couldn't believe the difference in this years crowd to the last couple series, no kids in sight, people around her getting the chants wrong, hell, most of the corporate s were only in maroon cos they got free scarves and beenies before the game. But how does the average supporter compete when companies are paying $1000 a head for a pre-game dinner and a couple hours of networking and entertainment(read "piss up") after the game?

2014-07-17T05:18:01+00:00

Rocco75

Guest


Agree with you Boris. that's why it's better to play in a smaller stadium and fill it then a big cavernous stadium with thousands of empty seats. I think the NRL clubs such as Manly, Cronulla, Penrith and Wests Tigers need to think outside the square (along with their local councils) and try to get some private investment into their local grounds. Cronulla are now developing the land next to their stadium with a massive apartment complex, shops, cafes etc... to generate revenue. Maybe they could plough some of that money into more upgrades of their stadium (which is owned by the club). They may have an A-League club playing out of it in the future.... Brookvale is terrible and might get funding from Tony Abbott and Mike Baird but the local council should look at some private investment to get the ground upgraded. it's probably the only way to get Brookvale Oval upgraded and ensure the future of the Manly NRL club. Penrith has the bare bones of a decent stadium if it can close off the ends and make it all seater with a roof. Again this would have to be done in conjunction with the local council and the Panthers Group of clubs. The money is there but it's in the private sector. Tigers would need private funding for either Leichhardt Oval or Campbelltown Stadium, otherwise they'll be based at Homebush..... if these clubs are serious, they need to attract some private investment. Centralising clubs to either Homebush or Moore Park may work for some (Roosters, Souths, Canterbury and perhaps Tigers), but for other clubs it won't work. and this all ties back to the point of offering a better match day experience. Private investment. that's the only way to get around the lack of funding from the various levels of government for smaller suburban grounds.

2014-07-17T05:08:14+00:00

River Lad

Guest


You are probably right. I'm just quoting what he said on this topic.

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T05:07:57+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Neither was Louis XVI Nick.

2014-07-17T05:06:10+00:00

bilbo

Guest


Carlton light blue for M&M,s

2014-07-17T04:59:18+00:00

Football United

Guest


Well the view might be worse but the games in Melbourne are the only time i can afford origin tickets.

AUTHOR

2014-07-17T04:58:57+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


That's certainly one interpretation Mushi

2014-07-17T04:58:05+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


Coming from the highest paid coach in the game, one that gets more than any guy playing it is a bit rich.

2014-07-17T04:54:47+00:00

Ian Whitchurch

Guest


Not making up facts is also important - remember that it's Johnno, so it's probably made up.

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