Waratahs face losing out in a battle of snakes and ladders

By Andrew Logan / Expert

I had an awkward moment this morning. Idly fiddling with some random stats over a coffee, I had the awful realisation that if the Waratahs lose this weekend, then it is very likely that their season is over – at least in terms of defending their title.

If that seems like a needlessly hysterical statement, let me tell you, I checked it twice.

The thing that jumped out at me was this. While Super Rugby might seem like it is about wins and bonus points and calculations, in reality it is much simpler than that. It’s about losses. The competition isn’t a group fighting to climb the ladders – it’s a whole lot of teams trying to avoid the snakes.

The stats bear out the story. Since the advent of the conference system in 2011 there have been six finals spots up for grabs each year, so a total of twenty four. In that time only one team has ever made the finals with more than six losses, and that is the Highlanders in 2014 with eight.

Every other finals team had six losses or less, so clearly the benchmark for being certain of making the finals is six losses. So, stat A – six losses to make the finals.

In practice, it means that with 18 rounds in this season (two byes), a team can afford to lose one game every 2.6 rounds and still probably make the finals.

Now that’s just to make the finals. To be certain of finishing on top of their conference, they would need to do much better than that. Previous conference winners tell us that they’d have to limit the damage even further to only four losses for the season – one every 4 rounds.

As you can see, a championship winning team hardly ever loses. Four losses or less for the year virtually guarantees you will win your conference and have a shot at the title. Stat B – every one of the four ‘modern’ champions have lost four matches or less.

What about bonus points? In most cases, they don’t appear to make a massive difference except when teams are evenly matched on points and need to be split. When those teams are even on four or five losses, all the bonus point does is sort them out between themselves – it is having more losses that pushes other teams back down the table.

Also, while there are a lot of teams jostling around on six or seven losses, there are very few on four or five losses. Limiting the damage lifts you out of the snakepit.

About this time you will be saying ‘Aww c’mon. Losses are just the flipside of wins – all this talk of losses is just semantics’.

Perhaps. I’m no statistician. But looking at the tables for the last three years shows something else which bears out the point. This is that there is a slight decrease in total number of wins for the top six finalists, and a slight increase in wins for the bottom four teams. The wins are being more evenly spread across the competition, ideally because the bottom teams are getting stronger.

This means there are more banana skins – more potential losses – and when stats clearly and unequivocally show that you need four losses or less to win the comp, potential losses are a problem.

The good news for some teams is that they face less banana-skins than others. The Reds, for instance, don’t play the Blues or the Stormers in the regular rounds – two teams that on current form would beat them. For their part the Brumbies are also fortunate, not playing the Hurricanes or the Sharks.

This is where the Waratahs could steal back a tiny advantage in that they avoid both the Bulls and the Chiefs. The Bulls in Pretoria are a nightmare assignment for any visiting team, and the double champion Chiefs look like they will be serious contenders in 2015, so a couple of potential losses are avoided for Tahs fans.

But before they start breathing a sigh of relief over that, the Tahs have to get over a hot Rebels outfit. The Rebels will be brimming with confidence at home after an away win over the Crusaders and have had two more days recovery than the Waratahs.

It’s an ugly situation, because should the Waratahs stumble at this hurdle, they leave themselves with two impossible options. Either they get through the final 16 rounds (14 matches) of the competition with only two further losses, or they become the first team to ever win the competition without first winning their conference. Neither are particularly likely.

A few losses damage a team more than a long string of wins lifts them up. If the Waratahs lose their first two in a row, they will need to win the next eight or so games straight to get back into contention.

Because why? Because of maths. A championship aspirant starts the season being able to give away one loss from every 4 games to win their conference and be in the top three finalists.

Lose your first game, and you suddenly can only give away one loss every 5.3 games. Lose your first two games in a row and suddenly you only have one loss in hand for every seven games to win your conference – not where you want to be when you’re defending a title.

The Waratahs may have won eight straight en route to the title last year, but doing it under pressure off the back of two consecutive losses to start their season would be a notable feat.

Let’s hope the Rebels don’t force them to take up the challenge.

The Crowd Says:

2015-02-19T21:17:04+00:00

Browny

Roar Rookie


From memory the Rebels lost 7 games by 6 points or less last year. If they got a few of those their season would have had a very different feel to it. I think this year they'll lose less of those tight ones where previously they lost composure and forfeited a lead in the final 20. Surely the Force will be better as the season goes on when they get Hodgson and Cummins back on the park, among others.

2015-02-19T10:40:23+00:00

MH01

Guest


Interesting read Andrew, though the Waratahs have a dream draw, so I am confident that they can drop loose against the Rebels this weekend, and still win the comp if they find the form they left of last year. As a case study, I would present the Crusaders.

2015-02-19T08:05:13+00:00

Zero Gain

Guest


Just shows why he should not have dual roles, doesn't it.

2015-02-19T07:22:02+00:00

AndyS

Guest


A bit of a stray thought, but interesting to see Cheika pumping up Timani's tyres. Any other SR coach does that ahead of a game, you put it down to gamesmanship in the hope the player will overplay his hand. But what when that coach is also the Wallabies coach...which hat is he wearing, or is he using both just to mess with the opposition?

2015-02-19T07:02:07+00:00

Laeveld Leeu

Roar Rookie


Ha! Saw that too! didnt know my Lions had connections to the Brits! Seems our depth is much deeper than I first thought!

2015-02-19T05:34:57+00:00

44bottles

Roar Guru


Jeez, what an idiot Combesy ;)

2015-02-19T05:28:09+00:00

44bottles

Roar Guru


Actually, according to another article on the site, the British and Irish Lions could surprise after casting off their underdog status.

2015-02-19T04:59:43+00:00

Chivas

Guest


It will be ok FOS, you know a Queensland team will still be in with a chance for the Hospital cup :-)

2015-02-19T04:26:30+00:00

RT

Guest


I understand the stats but I thought some of the lower placed teams lost some close matches last year that could have gone either way. In particular the cheetahs, lions and rebels. I think with the added confidence of this narrow losses they will win some of those close games this year. You may see conference winners with 5 or more losses. It's a cliche but the easy games at the start of the season are over. You might get a few easy ones at the end against bottom placed teams or also rans. As a tahs supporter I would rather have played the chiefs, crusaders or brumbies in round 1 and the force in round 18. No I'm not trying to insult the force but I don't think they'll be the same threat later in the comp when their depth has been tested.

2015-02-19T03:28:28+00:00

Rollaway7

Roar Guru


NO don't say that Sheek!! I want the Rebels to win!

2015-02-19T02:54:36+00:00

Combesy

Roar Guru


*here (stupid iphone)

2015-02-19T02:43:37+00:00

Combesy

Roar Guru


and hear I was thinking Australia had 5 teams in super rugby... Jeez what an idiot I am

2015-02-19T02:37:52+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


I agree sheek I do wonder though, if too many sprays is a good thing. In any case, we shall see.

2015-02-19T02:35:39+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Thanks for the post, Andrew. You dont seem confident? Do you think Rebs are going to win this one?

2015-02-19T02:32:55+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Yup. I agree fiddle

2015-02-19T02:32:00+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


I think the challenge for the Tahs, was the lack of phased continuity. Force turned over the Tahs 12 times: - That is 2x the Brumbies over the Reds. Which is unfathomable. - The Tahs made the same mistakes on attack as the Reds - Lack of cohesion and effective power in attacking rucks - Except Cheik-ball system is already in place, and simply didnt work Tahs started to get the roll on in the second half, in places. Once they get this going again, whilst having a strong set piece. I suspect they will be hard to stop.

2015-02-19T02:31:37+00:00

Crazy Horse

Roar Pro


I think the issue that has been over looked is the manner of the win against the underdone Force last year when Izzy ran rampant. This year the Force were prepared and ready. Izzy and the other so called Star Tahs were stopped by a star team. The net effect is that the Force are 5 points up and the Tahs 5 points down on where they were last year. The massive 2013.Tahs win alao stood them well in the points difference. If this had happened last year and all other results were the same the Force would have made the finals comfortably. The Tahs would still have made the finals too but another defeat this weekend would leave them vulnerable. So not time to panic but time to wake up for the Tahs.

AUTHOR

2015-02-19T02:16:22+00:00

Andrew Logan

Expert


Ah jeez - am I on the block for my stats today or what! My mistake....I had 4 notes on a massive page of scribble, and I looked at the wrong end of the list which was the Reds in 2011, who didn't clock their second loss until rd 11. The Tahs did indeed record their second loss in 2014 in Rd 7. I was looking at how long it took all 4 champs to record their second loss in the season: 2014 - Waratahs in Rd 7 2013 - Chiefs in Rd 9 2012 - Chiefs in Rd 12 2011 - Reds in Rd 11 *sigh*

2015-02-19T01:59:09+00:00

jameswm

Guest


Agreed - but not this weekend. Rebs are my 2nd team - after the tahs.

2015-02-19T01:58:36+00:00

jameswm

Guest


Yep - I also thought it might not be the worst thing to happen, but a home loss to a supposedly lower ranked team could come back to hurt them. They need to get their relentlessness back.

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