Rousey is ready for her shot at the men - but are we?

By Kevin Phillips / Roar Rookie

Is it possible for Ronda Rousey to fight TJ Dillashaw in a 135lb unification title fight?

Joe Rogan and Ronda herself have already answered the idea of ‘could’, both very clear to state she has the skilset to beat anyone – or anything for that matter.

Dana White has already insinuated it’s the only way to even the Vegas odds.

In fact, of the 45 different articles I’ve read about who Ronda should fight next, none have tackled the actual logistics of whether it was even possible.

After reading the collection I’ve done the work for you. The logistics of a fight breakdown into the following categories: precedent, licensing (legal), physical ability, and societal opinion.

This being such a vast amount of topics, I went to a panel of experts with very specific questions pertaining to the topic of Ronda fighting TJ. Again I want to state a warning – my goal was not to ask these professionals if they thought she should.

My goal was to work out if they believe the fight is possible. The results are fascinating under that premise.

Precedent
Exactly seven days prior to Ronda Rousey’s 14-second finish of Cat Zingano, a high school senior named Destiny Nunez, broke another barrier. Nunez became the first girl to ever win the Arkansas State Wrestling Title. Nunez fought everyone else who qualified for her 106lb weight class, and became the fifth girl in U.S. history to win a state wrestling title.

There certainly is precedent, just not much on the professional level.

It’s a different story when it comes to training. Professional training camps cross train men and women in MMA, judo, muay thai, boxing, jiujitsu, and wrestling. There have also been a few professional grappling tournaments that have had men fight women for prize money. It’s few and far between though. I spoke with veteran MMA/Jiujitsu Referee Andrew Correa, who confirmed in 15 years of different events, it’s only happened occasionally.

Licensing
Would it be legal for the UFC as an organisation to announce that Ronda Rousey is fighting TJ Dillashaw? For this question, I asked lawyer and founder of BJJ Training Journal, Amechi Akpom.

The Roar: Is there something more illegal about a man fighting a woman than a man fighting a man?

Amechi: In short, no. Remember though, it’s never legal for any two people to fight each other. You can’t just say two guys or girls are going into a cage to fight.

When they are fighting for prize money it’s in a different category. The fight promoters would need to request licensing of the governing body that’s sanctioning the fight. That gets into which state the fight is in, or country for that matter.

So presumably, if the UFC wanted to have a man fight a woman, they’d have to declare an intension to do so, and find a place that would sanction the fight. Also, pro-wrestling does it, not the same, just saying, men and women fight – a lot.

Physical ability
One of the overarching assumptions I’ve seen made in this Ronda versus a man debate is that men are much more physically dominant.

To help answer this question, I asked MMA conditioning coach Karen White the following.

The Roar: Does the fight being at 135 lbs. balance out any potential physical differences that exist between men and women?

Karen: Not necessarily. Men typically have better upper body strength naturally. However, women metabolise fat differently for energy and endurance. I think it greatly depends on training and which physical attributes have been developed.

For example, I personally, have stronger legs than most men…but I train for that. In an MMA situation, leg strength can certainly help Rhonda balance any differential factors.

Traditionally, women also have better balance skills, in conjunction with superior leg strength and technique, for instance, a male counterpart could easily be defeated.

In my opinion, the best advantage a male opponent has against a woman is his fear of losing to a woman. What it basically boils down to is training and technique. Gender physical differences don’t matter.

Societal opinion
Ronda is absolutely different. Considering her rare talent, I asked PhD and specialist in sports communication, Aaron Duncan the following question.

The Roar: Given that Ronda is uniquely talented, why would people be uncomfortable with this?

Duncan: Social concerns would likely centre on increasing the acceptability and/or normalisation of violence against women. Currently, society teaches that it is never OK for a man to put his hands on a woman, but this would in essence become an exception to that rule.

Those concerned would likely argue that this would muddy the water and be avoided. This is in many ways the argument we have with women in combat. It’s a shudder factor of what we are OK with.

The Roar: That makes sense. Why should people be comfortable with this?

Duncan: What is a fascinating question is: what if she won? She would certainly dispel the notion that women’s MMA is inferior to men’s MMA. That has the potential to be empowering.

In some ways that gets back to the roots of the UFC, that a smaller guy like Royce Gracie could prove technique can defeat brute strength. When you factor in the 135 lb. weight, there are no logistical reasons to prevent people of different sexes from competing against each other – it has to be an attitudinal or cultural barrier. What are we comfortable in seeing?

The summary
As the old adage goes, when the money is right, the fight will happen. Ronda Rousey’s unprecedented dominance forces us to ask unprecedented questions. Her last two opponents have lasted a combined 30 seconds.

If her dominance continues, this small rumble will reach earthquake status as we as an MMA community decide if we are ready for Ronda to try and become the undisputed champion.

The Crowd Says:

2015-05-14T05:05:44+00:00

Sub Pontem

Guest


Well there are a number of pretty well-known boxers who are not only comfortable with it, but are quite happy to do it for free. I dare say there would be a correspondingly small demographic of MMA fighters who go the same way,

2015-03-25T02:30:20+00:00

Johnno

Guest


nos agreed it would be a freak show, like a French Burlisque show. The obsession with genders competing is silly. Men and men, women are women, enjoy it. And the goal should be to find the best gender within each gender, not the best fighter. And then all the spin, if won wins and the other loses, it will be misguided and silly. Mixed doubles tennis works, as it's not 1 gender vs the other, it's blended. What's next are they gonna bring in the best Ladyboy vs the best UFC man or women, this is where this stuff goes if they go down this track and get this UFC girl to fight a man. Golf they have tried and it turned farcical just fills the gossip columns. Let it go, and find the best in each gender, and have fun.

2015-03-23T01:39:22+00:00

Chris Kettlewell

Roar Guru


Should not happen. Nobody should be okay with sanctioning a man to beat up a woman. And even if the possibility was there that she could do well and even win, there's also the possibility that it could be a one-sided beat-down. And any male fighter that's okay with taking that fight has something wrong with them. I can't see that she could win, it would be a beat-down. It's one thing her fighting someone who's a bit of a rookie or and old-timer well past his best, and well-down the pecking order, it's another to fight the men's title holder in the same weight class!

2015-03-22T22:58:47+00:00

astro

Guest


Would any male MMA fighter really be comfortable punching a woman? Who would agree to this?

2015-03-22T16:21:09+00:00

Degsy

Guest


I am a huge fan of Ronda, but I think this would be a bridge too far. I think her technical ability would even out the ground game, but taking a punch on the jaw from a rated striker is a different kettle of fish. I am sure she would wipe the floor with the average man in the street mind you. The big fight that does need to happen is between her and the Drug cheat Cyborg Santos, whose use previous of PEDs would make it almost a half way house match. The current challenge would be for Santos to cut to 135lb as this is the champion's weight, it would also mean she would have to shed some of the muscle she acquired cheating (or training as it is called in Brazil)

2015-03-22T10:27:45+00:00

Jrod

Guest


How can you even debate this? She would get flogged at it would set back society 20 years on top of the 10+ years the sport has already set us back. Broadly people who like this "sport" are animals, in my view.

2015-03-21T06:08:23+00:00

SM

Guest


Ronda Rousey is a phenomenon and the greatest female athlete in the world, but this is just silly.

2015-03-21T01:06:13+00:00

nickoldschool

Roar Guru


Won't happen. MMA via the UFC is trying to get credibility in the sports world and having a woman fighting a man would bring them back to their 'freak show' status they once had and that anti MM ppl still throw at us from time to time. Imo the best solution, for both men and women, would be to have an 'overall champion' meaning an 'all weight classes' champ like they have in some sports (judo comes to mind). Ronda vs a 90kg beast/woman would make sense, same with a Cain v Jones etc. Reckon it would kill it in MMA (or boxing).

2015-03-20T12:20:26+00:00

The Magic Man

Roar Rookie


OMG.

2015-03-20T11:19:51+00:00

pjm

Roar Rookie


They're not equal at 135. Dillashaw is at 6-7% Bodyfat while Rousey is at around 16-17%. That's giving Dillashaw about 5kg more muscle which is massive. Males also have more fast twitch muscle fibres so are able to generate more power.

2015-03-20T07:01:44+00:00

William Dalton Davis

Roar Rookie


You can say "but what if she won. It'd be empowering" but then you need to look on the other side. "What if she got battered. It'd be an eyesore."

2015-03-20T01:46:35+00:00

Dean

Guest


Haha, silliest concept going around. If you want the anti-MMA people to have the best footage ever, get a bloke and a woman in a cage and have the man punch the woman in the face. From a rational point of view, there's really no reason it can't go ahead, but from an emotional point of view, there's no way.

2015-03-20T00:51:39+00:00

Isaac Nowroozi

Roar Guru


I agree, plus there is nothing to prove there for either gender. A grappling only contest, they may be able to get away with, but even then I don't see it happening.

2015-03-20T00:49:34+00:00

Isaac Nowroozi

Roar Guru


Don't think it will happen under any circumstances. Ronda has said it will never happen. If she is truly dominant at 135 (and she is) and there is no one left for her, then the UFC need to make a 145 pound division and she should move up a weight class. MMA is already under scrutiny from so many people who argue that it's too violent. We want places to lift the ban on MMA, and men fighting women will just strengthen the argument for the ant-MMA advocates. Plus what does it prove? If a man loses, he got beat by a woman (Even if she is a talented woman), and if a man wins whoop-de-doo you beat a woman. Lose-lose either way.

2015-03-19T21:11:15+00:00

Squidward

Roar Rookie


It would be like Ronda jumping the equivalent of a man going up 2 divisions. Won't happen. She's awesone but not possible. Maybe in a grappling only contest like metamoris. Especially not verses TJ

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