Roar Wallaby form teams after Round 18

By PeterK / Roar Guru

There are five Wallaby form teams after Round 18.

The complete season form team
– Players chosen based on aggregate score across all rounds
– Players only picked in the position they play the most
– Must have a recognised goal kicker and line-out caller

The recent season form team
– Players chosen based on aggregate score across all rounds weighted by how recent they form was. Form at the end of the season counts more than the beginning
– Players only picked in the position they play the most
– Must have a recognised goal kicker and line-out caller

The form team against New Zealand sides
– Players chosen based on aggregate score across rounds where a New Zealand team was played
– Players only picked in the position they play the most
– Must have a recognised goal kicker and lineout caller

The form team against South African sides
– Players chosen based on aggregate score across rounds where a SA team was played
– Players only picked in the position they play the most
– Must have a recognised goal kicker and lineout caller

The team of the round
– Players chosen based on score in the latest round only

So, this week’s results are:

The recent season form team
01 James Slipper
02 James Hanson
03 Greg Holmes
04 Lopeti Timani
05 Will Skelton
06 Scott Fardy (lineout caller)
07 David Pocock
08 Scott Higginbotham (lineout caller)
09 Will Genia
10 Bernard Foley (goal kicker)
11 Joe Tomane
12 Samu Kerevi
13 Adam Ashley-Cooper
14 Taqele Naiyaravoro
15 Israel Folau

The complete season form team
01 Scott Sio
02 James Hanson
03 Sekope Kepu
04 Lopeti Timani
05 Will Skelton
06 Sean McMahon
07 David Pocock
08 Scott Higginbotham (lineout caller)
09 Will Genia
10 Bernard Foley (goal kicker)
11 Joe Tomane
12 Christian Lealiifano (goal kicker)
13 Samu Kerevi
14 Henry Speight
15 Israel Folau

The form team against New Zealand sides
01 Scott Sio
02 James Hanson
03 Sekope Kepu
04 Lopeti Timani
05 Will Skelton
06 Luke Jones
07 David Pocock
08 Scott Higginbotham (lineout caller)
09 Nic Stirzaker
10 Bernard Foley (goal kicker)
11 Dom Shipperley
12 Mitch Inman
13 Samu Kerevi
14 Henry Speight
15 Israel Folau

The form team against South African sides
01 James Slipper
02 James Hanson
03 Greg Holmes
04 Lopeti Timani
05 Will Skelton
06 Scott Fardy (lineout caller)
07 David Pocock
08 Scott Higginbotham (lineout caller)
09 Will Genia
10 Bernard Foley (goal kicker)
11 Joe Tomane
12 Samu Kerevi
13 Adam Ashley-Cooper
14 Henry Speight
15 Israel Folau

The team of the round
01 Chris Heiburg
02 Toutai Polotau-Nau
03 Greg Holmes
04 Luke Jones
05 Dave Dennis
06 Sean McMahon
07 Matt Hodgson
08 Wycliff Palu
09 Nic Stirzaker
10 Bernard Foley
11 Taqele Naiyaravoro
12 Samu Kerevi
13 Karmichael Hunt
14 Joe Tomane
15 Israel Folau

The Crowd Says:

2015-06-18T08:21:26+00:00

PiratesRugby

Guest


While our opinions might differ, we all love rugby.

2015-06-17T17:17:25+00:00

Joe Blow

Guest


Toutai Polotau-Nau!!!! Now that would be a beast

AUTHOR

2015-06-17T12:49:42+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Thanks, no worries. You are not a shy one so I am quite aware if you had issues with more than just Skelton I would know about it. I don't mind the questioning about a player, at least you have been interested through the series.

2015-06-17T11:35:20+00:00

HiKa

Roar Rookie


Yes please! Can we have three?

AUTHOR

2015-06-17T09:57:21+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


thats correct, only form as perceived by roar contributors. Proven test performance has to be the no 1 criteria but it is a good idea on who to consider if an incumbent is not playing well or is injured or has never really performed at intl level.

2015-06-17T09:57:00+00:00

PiratesRugby

Guest


And by the way PeterK, thanks for doing these every week. They're very thoughtful and fair. Regrettably, I only seem to respond in order to point out some perceived inaccuracy which detracts from the fact that I usually agree with almost all of your observations. I look forward to your other articles.

2015-06-17T08:37:53+00:00

44bottles

Roar Guru


the number of points for a try*/penalty. I'm thinking 4 points a try, maybe 2 a penalty and 1 a drop goal. Thoughts?

2015-06-17T08:36:42+00:00

Goldenaxe

Roar Rookie


Interesting analysis and output. Of course the issue with these type of statistically driven selections based on individual performance is that it doesn't take into account combinations and test match experience and overall team fit. Interesting process all the same.

2015-06-17T08:35:13+00:00

44bottles

Roar Guru


I feel that this would make tries easier to score though jeznez, after all there are 2 less players on the field. Maybe we should drop the number of points for a goal/penalty, improve it that way? :)

2015-06-17T08:11:31+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


Peter I get your point but what SANZAR did was discuss those issues with World Rugby and how to deal with them. My point is that no body affiliated to World Rugby can unilaterally change a sanction for an infringement within the game. If that was the case then we could end up with different laws wherever rugby is played. I refer you to a Spiro Zavos article on Roar in which Lyndon Bray is said to have worked closely with World Rugby so as to achieve alignment over maul issues. http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/05/01/spiro-brumbies-waratahs-battle-illegal-rolling-maul/

2015-06-17T07:37:56+00:00

The Slow Eater

Guest


A good team. Shame Inman didn't get in the squad.

2015-06-17T07:22:13+00:00

Daz

Guest


At least one thing your analysis, with its differing teams might do PK is to get people to start thinking along the lines of horses for courses and to focus on the opposition and how to beat them as much as we do on our best favourite players.

2015-06-17T06:32:39+00:00

Markus

Guest


Most recognise that Palu's game has become progressively tighter over the years, but when he was in backrows with Mowen then Fardy I think they wanted the ball-running Palu of yesteryear. I see Fardy, Hooper, McCalman as less balanced and actually more like picking too many of the same type of player as you mention. It would provide a huge work rate but less impact in attack and a lot less impact at the breakdown. Higgs Palu and even Pocock cover Hooper's attacking game between them, but Fardy and Hooper do not come close to covering Pocock's over the ball game.

AUTHOR

2015-06-17T06:28:50+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


agree to disagree re per minute verse per game

2015-06-17T06:23:06+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


But it's not fair. If at half time the coach told you he was keeping you on for 20, you're going to work at a higher rate than somebody who knows they are there for 40. Have you not wondered that despite this being his 4th year with a Super Rugby franchise, Timani has struggled to get game time in the back row? Whilst not having the worst stats of all, his error rate is still high.

2015-06-17T06:22:26+00:00

PiratesRugby

Guest


Well I there's almost a consensus on here about Stirzaker. Good on the Rebels for giving him the time and opportunity to develop. He and Debreczeni have the makings of a very good provincial combo. Bit early to call them future Wallabies but if they did get into the national side, it wouldn't be a surprise. McMahon on the other hand is obviously destined for greatness.

AUTHOR

2015-06-17T06:18:57+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


TWAS - Using players averaging 10 mins a game is an extreme and ingenious of you. You would only compare players who are regular starters of course. So comparing 60 mins to 80 mins and comparing workrate per min is fair. A lot of players only play 60 mins, Moore, Palu, TPN, Slipper, Holmes, Sio, Kepu, Coleman, Arnold.

AUTHOR

2015-06-17T06:15:23+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


sure, but Palu hardly ever plays 80 either. The idea is to have power players who do not play 80 mins. Play Palu and replace him with Timani or visa versa. Otherwise you juts get a lot of workhorse, good work rate but no real power impact players. Which is exactly the problem last EOYT. Carter, Simmons, Horwill the locks, McMahon or Jones the 6 and McCalman the 8, and Hooper the 7. All 80 mins hard working, yet could not win the collisions, keot going backwards, struggled to get over the advantage lines. No dominant tackles , no powerful runs in tight. No balance in the team.

2015-06-17T06:07:54+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


I've already read it and just completed a review of locks for the same site for editing. Comparing equal time is not comparable though. If it was Dean Mumm and Caydern Neville would look like our best locks because they have had a number of bench cameos. In 9 of his 15 games Timani has been subbed no longer than 15 minutes into the 2nd half. Only 4 of those 15 has he played longer than 65. Don't you think this allows him to work in more concentrated bursts, as opposed to a player who is required to play the entire 80?

2015-06-17T06:04:02+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Well if he's playing lock it's not really. You're comparing players doing 2 different jobs around the field.

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