A Wallabies team that actually makes sense

By Dead Account / Roar Pro

Seeing as some don’t seem to have a clue what he’s doing when selecting a team I thought I’d have a crack at it and try to actually account for all the necessary skills required in certain positions and across the whole team.

Firstly, there’s a few players who have been left out of the Rugby Championship squad who I would have liked to include, but we’ll stick to reality and who’s actually available for this one.

Secondly, by all accounts George Smith will be called into the squad after Game 2 of the Rugby Championship so he will be included in this process along with James O’Connor, who is reportedly still a chance to be called up after Game 2.

So, here goes, hopefully some of you will agree with me…

The front row:
For me this was actually one of the more difficult choices as the Reds front row definitely deserves to start on form. I think the likelihood of James Hanson being selected ahead of Stephen Moore is incredibly low especially considering he has been be named captain, which I don’t have an issue with. He deserves his spot based on years of consistent form.

This being the case I see no need to keep James Slipper and Greg Holmes together so I would go with the incumbent front row of James Slipper, Stephen Moore and Sekope Kepu because of Kepu’s impact around the park and his size, his scrummaging has been solid enough to justify this.

Reserves: Scott Sio, Hanson, Holmes.

The locks:
This is where coach Michael Cheika has left himself a little bit high and dry, with the selections of Dean Mumm and Dave Dennis over Adam Coleman and Lopeti Timani quite puzzling to say the least.

I’ll do my best here.

Rob Simmons has a lot of detractors, and for good reason, he does not have enough of a physical impact around the field for an international lock, but we need, I repeat need, to have a good lineout lock (and four props in the 23, but that’s another story…)

Simmons is the best we have, and his selection being necessary means we need someone to make up for his physicality.

Enter Will Skelton.

Sure he may not have the same success he’s had for the Waratahs against the All Blacks or the Boks, but he’s proven he can play 80 minutes this season and I think it would be incredibly foolish not to give a 2.03m, 140kg lock with his skill a run to at least see if he lives up to the hype.

Reserves: Arnold, Dennis (only because there isn’t a better option).

The loose forwards:
Scott Fardy gets the nod at blindside, he’s always a solid performer, he offers an option at lineout time and as much as I’d like to play both Higginbotham and Palu, we really can’t afford to play two players that play that loose. It would leave us with only two genuine lineout options.

Higginbotham or Palu at number 8 is a tough decision, so again I’m going to place a high value on the lineout and go with Higginbotham to give us a third jumper (and a second caller).

Our set piece really needs to be on point going into the World Cup and in general if we want to a be successful team.

Lastly the pivotal openside position… I like Michael Hooper, I really do.

He’s strong ball runner, great at link play and always gives it his all, but in reality, he’s not a number 7, he’s a blindside that’s too small to play there and for that reason and because Pocock is one of, if not the strongest player over the ball in world rugby, Pocock is my choice.

Reserves: Hooper, Palu, Smith.

The halves:
Now we’re getting into the real contentious stuff eh? With no Nick Stirzaker, and Nic White in atrocious form, that leaves Phipps and Genia.

Now say what you will Waratahs and Reds fans, neither of these guys are in form. Phipps was below his best for the whole Super Rugby season, while Genia showed glimpses of his old self, but was far from perfect.

To me that means we must drop back to potential and previous performances for the Wallabies, and we’d all be lying if we selected Phipps on this criteria, therefore Genia gets the nod.

Now as far as form at flyhalf goes, you could probably say Christian Lealiifano actually deserves this spot. But unfortunately for him he doesn’t have the incumbency and he doesn’t have Cooper’s x-factor, meaning he may well miss out on a place in the 23 all together.

The most likely choice is Bernard Foley or Quade Cooper. Lets remove personal bias from this for a second and consider that based on the fact that Genia should start ahead of Phipps.

Despite what some will say, Foley needs a second playmaker to be at his most effective. That’s likely to be Matt Toomua who he does not combine well with, so Cooper should start as he doesn’t need a second-five and gels quite well with Toomua.

Reserves: Phipps, Foley.

The centres:
Tevita Kuridrani has a lock on 13, even if his form has been down a little this season.

Adam Ashley-Cooper doesn’t have his line-bending ability. Although he does make some breaks, his one weakness is that somehow after 104 caps he still hasn’t learnt to pass. He’s a fantastic player, but the fact that he rarely passes or passes too late is a glaring issue with his game.

I’d really like to see Samu Kerevi line up at 12. As many people have said we’re the only top team still employing a two playmaker system, and I think it’s time to move on now that we finally have a big strong ball runner at 12 that knows how to pass and offload (and even kick a little).

Reserves: Toomua, Adam Ashley-Cooper.

The wings:
The form left winger of Super Rugby has been Joe Tomane, and as solid as Rob Horne is in defence we need size and speed in attack. Horne is too slow and small to make breaks against the All Blacks and the Boks.

Tomane isn’t the greatest defender, but he’s also not a liability. If we are to abandon the two playmaker system we need a solid boot at the back, therefore we need either Drew Mitchell or James O’Connor on a wing.

I’m inclined to go with James O’Connor solely because I think he’s got an older Mitchell beaten for pace and he’s right footed. I want to play Tomane on his preferred side.

So James O’Connor just takes the right wing spot.

Reserves: Mitchell, Speight

Fullback:
Israel Folau. I don’t think this one’s even worth debating.

Reserves: Beale (He shouldn’t be anywhere near 12 for The Wallabies and Adam Ashley-Cooper and Mitchell are covering other positions, I would shift James O’Connorto fullback first if Folau were to get injured though.)

Team:
1. James Slipper
2. Stephen Moore (c)
3. Sekope Kepu
4. Will Skelton
5. Rob Simmons
6. Scott Fardy
7. David Pocock (vc)
8. Scott Higginbotham
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper (gk)
11. Joe Tomane
12. Samu Kerevi
13. Tevita Kuridrani
14. James O’Connor
15. Israel Folau

Bench:
16. James Hanson
17. Scott Sio
18. Greg Holmes
19. Rory Arnold
20. George Smith
21. Nick Phipps
22. Bernard Foley
23. Adam Ashley-Cooper

Omitted options:
Matt Giteau – Considering how many times he made crucial errors, whether it be in general play, or missing simple kicks that cost us games in the past, I just don’t see how at 32 he’s now somehow an ‘improved player’. I can’t name a single person that has come back from Europe a better player.

Admittedly I’ve barely seen him play for Toulon, but I just don’t understand the hype. I’d like to be proven wrong because he’s undoubtedly talented, but it just seems unlikely.

Rob Horne – Too slow to be a winger at international level and too many people ahead of him at 12/13.

Taqele Naiyaravoro – Would be nice to get him capped against Argentina or something but he’s to raw to face The Boks or NZ.

Dean Mumm – No. No. No no no… No.

James Horwill, Nic White – Too out of form.

Tetera Faulkner, Christian Lealiifano, Ben McCalman, Sean McMahon, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Toby Smith – All just too far back in the pack.

Finally, I’m aware that this team contains eight Reds in total and as I’m sure some of you will jump on this I’d like to quickly justify these selections in isolation.

Slipper, Hanson, Holmes and Kerevi all unarguably deserve their spots. Simmons is necessary and as for Genia, Cooper and O’Connor, there’s no one knocking the door down to be picked in the halves so I picked the two most talented players we have.

O’Connor is the only one that probably doesn’t deserve to be there, but he is also necessary unless you put Adam Ashley-Cooper on the right wing, but his kicking is not anywhere near as accurate as O’Connor’s and having O’Connor on the field provides a back-up goal kicking option.

So what do you think Roarers? What changes would you make to this team for the Rugby Championship and onwards to the World Cup?

The Crowd Says:

2015-07-12T23:05:45+00:00

TedTurner

Guest


J White played Hooper at 7 and then Hooper pre-signed for the Tah's when he knew Brumbies were after Pocock. There's nothing wrong with Hooper, but Pocock is a freak.

AUTHOR

2015-07-10T14:29:04+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


Failure is probably a bit of a strong word, but he made mistakes with his kicking and in general play which he wasn't making during the Super Rugby season, and even the Tri-Nations.

2015-07-10T09:42:45+00:00

Noodles

Guest


What a weird critique. Tries too hard? What's that? Anyhow, I'd pick Toomua first. Ahead of a lot of people with bigger wraps. For the simple reason that he is a goer and never lays down, never stops trying and will have a red hot go. I really don't see how quade cooper gets run unless we find a much, much, much more dominant pack than we appear to have.

2015-07-09T21:17:39+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


But even what was the failure? He was bad for half of the Semi Final? I just don't understand this view Cooper crumbled in the RWC. We lost 2 games and in both games our forwards were absolutely toweled up. The other games we rained tries on minnows.

AUTHOR

2015-07-09T06:31:21+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


Genia didn't fail, Cooper cracked under pressure from the NZ crowds, he won't receive the same treatment at this RWC. As for the Bledisloe, I'm backing him to stand up and do the job. Lealiifano wouldn't be a bad option though.

2015-07-09T01:15:55+00:00

Tom G

Guest


Genia/Cooper "a proven combination"?? I take it you mean proven to fail in the big occasions.. RWC 2011 ring any bells?

AUTHOR

2015-07-08T14:44:22+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


I wouldn't mind Mitchell or AAC, just a little worried about their accuracy.

2015-07-08T14:40:48+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Dennis at 8 could be an option.

AUTHOR

2015-07-08T14:37:27+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


Cheers.

2015-07-08T14:28:58+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Mitchell?

AUTHOR

2015-07-08T12:34:23+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


If the issue is who moves up into the defensive line a second playmaker at 12 doesn't change anything.

AUTHOR

2015-07-08T12:27:03+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


Cooper only drops back to counter attack (this becomes even less necessary if you have a Folau and O'Connor at the back), he quite often defends at 10 these days. Why do you think a second playmaker is needed in that situation?

AUTHOR

2015-07-08T11:52:02+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


AAC isn't particularly quick either but to me he's a bigger Horne that can kick.

2015-07-08T11:50:00+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Fair points. Didn't see that Hooper wasn't on the bench Good team

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2015-07-08T11:48:22+00:00

Dead Account

Roar Pro


O'Connor was only included to allow for Kerevi at 12, if Cheika thinks he's up to standard then I would like to see him there. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/james-oconnor-to-work-on-speed-michael-cheika-20150705-gi5bp5.html Aside from O'Connor's position there's no one beating the door down to be chosen ahead of anyone else I picked. Kerevi has had an outstanding breakthrough season and was the only Reds back in consistent form, I think he can definitely do the job at international level, but we'll see. Nairavoro was impressive, but far from outstanding. Yes, Horne is in form at Super Rugby level, but he doesn't cut it at international level, he's quick off the mark, not quick over 50 metres. I would rather see Speight or AAC on the right, and then bring in Toomua/Lealiifano at 12. Cooper's selection was like I explained to fit with Genia and Kerevi, wouldn't mind Lealiifano at 10 either, but Foley needs Phipps and Beale and neither of them should be starting. He doesn't click with Toomua and needs a second playermaker. If Phipps were to find some form I wouldn't mind seeing: 9. Phipps 10. Foley 12. Lealiifano because that worked last year. Agree Pocock offers little in attack, disagree he's overly slow to the ruck, Hooper is just very quick, but not as effective. If you have to have Hooper I would go: 4. Arnold 5. Simmons 6. Fardy 7. Hooper 8. Palu Need 3 lineout options and you need Palu's physicality if you're going to play Hooper. McCalman is consistent but doesn't have enough impact.

2015-07-08T11:02:04+00:00

Glenn

Guest


High Fire, I did watch all the QLD, NSW and ACT games and yes Genia improved towards the end, Phipps got progressively worse with his basic skills. White reduced the amount of kicking from the base of the scrum/ruck but has too much mouth and doesn't run enough himself yet has proved in the past he can. IMO it should be Genia and White. But I think that existing relationships in the organisation make this unlikely.

2015-07-08T10:53:12+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


but these did not lie. Toomuas game this year was poor, interrupted with injuries. He missed 30% of tackles, there is no excuse or saying those stats lie. Kerevi was far more dangerous in attack, and he had a lower error rate.

2015-07-08T10:50:26+00:00

Glenn

Guest


In the comment above about halves I agree...except Id swap the names Phipps and White around. IMO Phipps basic halfback skill of passing is atrocious. As for fly half. For skills Cooper doesn't need a second playmaker but he often falls back to the back three and when he does that a second playmaker is required up front and that is either Toomua or CLL. Beal and JOC haven't shown the skills to be that close to the ruck or maul.

2015-07-08T10:41:22+00:00

Glenn

Guest


Peter - stat details please - As you know the maxim - There are lies, damn lies and statistics. lol

2015-07-08T10:16:48+00:00

Manic

Guest


Would have Toomua at 12 and Hornr on the ring to replace JOC. Have to have Beale and Giteau as subs...

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