Rob Simmons' injury ups the stakes for Sam Carter’s NRC return

By Brett McKay / Expert

The news that Wallabies lock Rob Simmons has been ruled out of both Bledisloe Cup Tests has come, as most injuries tend to, at the worst possible time.

Simmons will undergo surgery in Brisbane today for an injury to his scaphoid (one of the carpal bones in the wrist), and is expected to make a full recovery before the Wallabies take on the USA in Chicago on September 5.

But there will still be some serious clenching around the selection table over the next couple of weeks.

Strangely, the Wallabies have not called in any replacement players. The 31-man squad named on Friday contained four locks, meaning James Horwill, Will Skelton, and Dean Mumm are now certain to play this Saturday in Sydney.

Flanker Scott Fardy, or possibly Horwill, will become the chief lineout caller, unless Mumm shifts into the starting XV.

In the background, recently returned Kane Douglas was observed training with the Wallabies in Sydney on Monday, doing nothing to dispel speculation and presumption that, deserving or otherwise, he will be shoehorned into the Wallabies squad for the Rugby World Cup.

Rookie look Rory Arnold, joint winner of the Shawn MacKay Award for most outstanding young talent at the Brumby Ball in Canberra on Saturday night, was in the Wallabies squad until recently, but is yet to make his debut. If he’s hasn’t been used before the Bledisloe Tests in a World Cup year, we probably won’t see him in gold until next season.

Another player who could suddenly loom into contention is Sam Carter, who missed the end of the Super Rugby season due to a knee medial ligament injury, but looks set to make his comeback via the NSW Country Eagles in this year’s National Rugby Championship.

Carter told me late last week that his recovery and rehab is well and truly on track.

“It’s going really well. Everything took positively once I got out of the brace and started running,” Carter said. “Now, it’s responding strongly, and I’m getting all the strength back, so hopefully another two weeks and it should be right to go.”

I last saw Carter the day after the Brumbies lost their Super Rugby semi-final to the Hurricanes in Wellington, and though he’d been looked after with a late business-class upgrade for the Wellington-Melbourne leg, for the Melbourne-Canberra leg his height and bulky knee brace were wedged into the same economy row as me.

He got out of the brace only about a fortnight ago, and started his first running drills with the Brumbies medicos a few days later. That led to a second session Friday week ago, and then he ramped things up more last week as the signs became more encouraging.

It’s fingers crossed still, obviously, but there is a chance he could be running in team sessions toward the end of this week.

“It’s just a day-by-day basis, really. If I progress through each training session, then they can tick the box and they can make a decision from there,” he said.

If things do keep progressing as well as they have so far, the opening round of the NRC is a genuine chance.

“Absolutely. The timing around the injury, at the end of Super Rugby was pretty bad, but I’ve done everything in my power to get back as soon as possible, and that opening round match was what I was targeting, if I was going to play.”

NSW Country plays Greater Sydney at Merrylands in Sydney on Saturday, August 22. However, the timing of the Wallabies’ departure for their historic Test with the USA at Chicago’s Soldier Field means that they will quite likely depart during the second NRC round on the last weekend of August.

It means Carter has one shot at stating his Rugby World Cup case.

“It is ‘all in’, yeah. That’s what happens in the World Cup year,” Carter laughed.

Carter’s switch to the Eagles was the only major change when the marquee Wallabies allocations for NRC teams were released last week. Country coach Darren Coleman had told me a few weeks ago he was hopeful of getting the Quirindi product (northern NSW), but joked that it would rely on Carter answering the phone when his father, former Wallabies flanker and current NSW Country Rugby Union President David Carter, called him.

Evidently, that happened.

“They just asked me!” Carter said. “I was asked two weeks before the injury who I wanted to align with, and I just decided that even at that stage if I wasn’t going to play any games, I wanted to do the promotional stuff and be part of what NSW Country represented.

“Obviously Dad’s involved, and I also know [Eagles general manager] Jimmy Grant pretty well, so I wanted to do the best by them, and the way to do that was to help out through the Country Eagles.”

In fairness, Carter didn’t actually get much say in being aligned with the University of Canberra Vikings in 2014, with the Brumbies taking him as one of their contracted players as they were entitled to do. This season, as one of the Spring Tour Wallabies, Carter was able to choose himself.

The Eagles have made a calculated gamble, too, in taking Carter as one of the two marquee Wallabies, along with Wallabies midfielder Matt Toomua. If Carter plays one game and wins a Rugby World Cup call-up, then the Eagles won’t really lose anything, with the marquee Wallabies counted outside the 33-man squad. If he isn’t picked, then Country gets an international lock for the whole NRC.

And though his focus is obviously on getting that ticket to England via the States, Carter said he would love to get back out playing rugby in country NSW, including an Eagles game close to home, in Tamworth, on September 12.

“If the Wallabies doesn’t pan out, it’d be a great opportunity to go up there where it all began, really. Even with the ‘Bush to Bledisloe’ tour we did last year, we could see how much it meant to the people out there, so it’s a great opportunity to get out there with the Eagles.

“I honestly haven’t played in Tamworth since I was 12 years old!”

The Crowd Says:

2015-08-05T22:42:09+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


And Peter how many of them did the tackler get driven back in the tackle, thus causing his support to be past him when the breakdown occurred? The Giteau turnover when Moore and Simmons came in form either side is the perfect example. Both took the 45 degree angle to the tackle contest as you are supposed to do (run to the breakdown - don't chase the ball) and then Giteau was driven behind that point. That left them being required to double back to clean out, whilst the Boks marched forward to easily take the ruck.

2015-08-05T09:43:11+00:00

Mike

Guest


I agree re Arnold. A guy who has been accused of being too physical in Currie Cup is what WBs need

2015-08-05T09:36:44+00:00

Mike

Guest


I don't see Simmons as being particularly strong at the breakdown, but he does get through a lot of work in general play. It's not glamorous, but it's very important.

2015-08-05T09:21:20+00:00

Mike

Guest


Agree Harry. We've done well in the past with locks from South Africa.

2015-08-05T09:17:10+00:00

Mike

Guest


Spot on Peter, IMO.

2015-08-05T09:03:39+00:00

Mike

Guest


Yeah.... no. The idea of Beau Robinson making a difference in the Ireland match is laughable, one good season of Super Rugby notwithstanding. And playing at number 7 does not make him anything like Pocock.

2015-08-05T08:57:09+00:00

Mike

Guest


Yes. Another way of looking at it is that any of these gents can grab a jersey by the scruff if they truly have the desire. Dan Vickerman would line up the nastiest forward on the other side and smash him at the first opportunity, then move on from there. A younger Horwill could and did. It's up to these gents to show they want it.

2015-08-05T06:01:05+00:00

Red Kev

Roar Guru


You're not back on this lazy analysis again are you PeterK? RobC and I already debunked that one for you twice a fortnight ago.

2015-08-05T00:05:16+00:00

Russnev

Guest


RedKev What would be your forward pack? To me the Pocock has to be in the starting team, for all the obvious reasons but mainly as he is someone that can upset and slow down the ABs ball. Also the Line out, can we afford to have only two jumpers in Horwell and Fardy? Higgers has been a great player now for quite a number of years, surly he can't be cut out because of one weakfish performance against the Springboks. So if Cheika wants Hooper in the starting team he will have to compromise somewhere, i.e cut Skelton. My pack would be Sio-Moore-Holmes-Horwell-Mumm-Hooper-Pocock-Higgenbotham Skelton and Fardy on the bench.

2015-08-04T23:02:59+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


7 of the 10 breakdowns where Boks stole the ball Simmons was involved in the ruck, very ineffective indeed, despite the number he hit.

2015-08-04T22:48:03+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Because they have gotten us to 10 wins in a row against the team that would need to beat us in order for us not to get out of our pool.

2015-08-04T22:47:13+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Simmons regularly gets to rucks where there is no defender to remove. Is it his fault for arriving early enough to not need to use force? I'm pretty sure that's what you intend to do at every breakdown.

2015-08-04T12:00:23+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Indeed Harry. But the Aussies can do better. But it involves carrying a telephone book.

2015-08-04T11:24:15+00:00

HandsOffBlack7

Guest


Hitting a ruck, and leaning on a ruck are different. So hitting a ruck, yeah, he does that rarely. I don't rate Skelton either - As I mentioned, I think he is lazy, and only good in patches. It's just my opinion, don't take it personally.

2015-08-04T11:17:17+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


RobC Slapping is a smart foul Nothing happens to you Who says Saffas are dim?

2015-08-04T10:55:59+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


I think Simmo has to work on his hard man ethic: - First, do a Fardy and grow a gnatty Mormon beard - Second, pull a couple of teeth out. Or sharpen them - Do a Koch and get a big across-the-face scar. Or draw one - At least once a game, he should deliver a Silverback chest thump after a monster tackle or ruck - For every lineout steal, he should do a Shaquelle O Neill stare down of the opponent - Finally, when he runs for the line. Accelerate! What ever it is, don't slap anyone! Or you're gonna be in the low-five part two video

2015-08-04T09:49:09+00:00

ThugbyFan

Guest


Just watching a replay on Foxtel of the famous 2000 AB v WB test at the Olympic stadium. The AB ran in 3 tries in the 1st 5 minutes yet Australia scoring 4 tries in the comeback and it was locked at 24 all at half time. Crowd was 109,000. What a match. I think one commentator said you wouldn't mind paying $1000 to see this match, it was a ripper. Watching G.Gregan and S.Larkin directing the piggies and backs respectively makes one cry when you look at our halves today. Defences were not like the brick walls of today so this match was far more open and entertaining to those "running rugby" aficionados. Does anyone know why stadium Australia reduced the seat numbers?

2015-08-04T08:01:31+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


the issue is the new blood may give him a greater chance to win, they may be better players.

2015-08-04T07:58:57+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


For the RWC it is almost mandatory that at the minimum a 5th prop is taken who can play both sides or 6 props are taken or some of the 4 props in the 23 can play both sides. Otherwise a last minute injury to a prop means you may not be able to field a legal team with 2 LHP's and 2 THP's. This means the match would be forfeited. There is a 72 hr wait to bring in injury replacements. Even that time was shorter what if the last minute injury was in the warmups?

2015-08-04T07:50:35+00:00

Magic Sponge

Guest


How can so called experts belieive players such as Carter, Simmons and Slipper are going to get us out of the pool.

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