Hodge's hazardous hit and other talking points from Round 21

By Josh / Expert

Coming into their Friday night fixture with Port Adelaide, the Hawthorn Hawks were in a good position – comfortable premiership favourites, they had three matches left against low-ranked sides, giving them a solid chance to earn a home final.

By the end of the night so much had changed for the Hawks, and we might remember it as the match that cost them their shot at the premiership.

First of all, they lost, essentially ruling them out of any hope at a top-two finish. They will almost certainly have to win at least one final at Domain Stadium in Perth to qualify for this year’s grand final.

That in itself is a difficult task, though not impossible. They fought a close battle with the Eagles there a few weeks ago, and got walloped by Fremantle last time the two sides met there, in 2014.

What could really hurt their chances at the flag though is a potential suspension to captain Luke Hodge, who introduced Chad Wingard’s head to the behind post not long after the half-time break.

Wingard went to gather loose ball on the behind line early in the third term but was in trouble when a chase-down from Hodge turned into a vicious hip-and-shoulder that left Wingard flattened on the field.

Miraculously, he came up fine and was able to play out the game, eventually kicking four goals in the win, but the collision could very easily have given him a serious injury.

Hodge looks likely to face some sort of penalty from the match review panel. If he cops a ban of two weeks or less he will miss only the Hawks’ last two games of the year – likely wins against Brisbane and Carlton – but if he is banned for longer, it’ll be a serious concern.

And he very well might be, given the nature of the incident. On slow motion his actions appear to be entirely intentional as he clearly braces and changes direction to bump Wingard even though the ball is already out of play.

Wingard’s head was caught between Hodge’s hip and the behind post, and the potential for serious injury will not escape the MRP.

Any potential ban is compounded by the fact that Hodge has a bad record, having been banned for three matches earlier in the year, which means this incident will have an additional week added to it.

A ban of three weeks or more will see him ruled out for some of the Hawks’ finals campaign, and the absence of the skipper would make winning away in Perth all the more difficult.

After all, they lost two of their three matches that he missed through suspension earlier in the year.

The other big news set to come out later today when the MRP hands down its findings is the fate of Nat Fyfe’s Brownlow Medal hopes, after he was reported for the above incident in Fremantle’s 11-point loss to North Melbourne.

Going for the ball during the third quarter, Fyfe slid into North Melbourne’s Ben Jacobs and looked to have made some high contact.

That kind of incident would likely only bring Fyfe a fine and therefore not affect his Brownlow eligibility, but under the new MRP system three fines in a year means an automatic one-week suspension, and Fyfe has already been fined twice.

He also has a bad record having missed a few weeks in 2014, so that one-week suspension would turn into a two-week suspension and rule him out of the remaining rounds of the season.

Will he get smacked? I don’t reckon so, if you look at the footage it seems bad at first glance, but that’s because it happens so fast. On a slower replay it’s really only Fyfe’s arm that makes contact with Jacobs’ head and it’s not that much contact.

My tip is that he’ll get off and remain eligible for the Brownlow, though I don’t think he’s got the medal in the bag.

It’s worth mentioning that Jacobs ran a great tag on Fyfe, keeping him to a very quiet game. Fyfe kicked a goal early but was well held after that, and while he finished with 21 disposals, only five of those were kicks, showing the pressure he was under from Jacobs.

A few spare thoughts…
Aaron Sandilands versus Todd Goldstein turned out to be quite the ruck duel. Sandilands looked to have it won early with dominance in the hitouts and two first-quarter goals, but Goldstein lifted his work around the ground and got the last laugh with two final-term goals in North’s win.

They both deserve to make the All Australian team this year, though there hasn’t been a ruckman named on the bench since Mark Jamar in 2010, and the fact that it was Mark Jamar is probably why we don’t do it any more.

Patrick Cripps versus Jesse Hogan was the other highly-anticipated clash of the week and Cripps and the Blues won it in a canter. Does that cinch the Rising Star award for him? Carlton fans will tell you it does. I disagree, I still prefer Hogan.

American debutant Jason Holmes looks like he could really make it in the AFL – the big man from Chicago knows how to leap and was the best ruck on ground in St Kilda’s draw with Geelong. He didn’t have much impact around the ground, but didn’t look lost either.

Josh J Kennedy has the Coleman medal sewn up after a bag of seven goals against the Bulldogs on Sunday afternoon – he’s got 71 goals for the season, which is 17 ahead of the next best in Jeremy Cameron. Could he kick another 29 goals in the two rounds left of the season plus finals? Probably not.

The top eight is still really even and a lot of finals combinations are possible. Adelaide host West Coast next week in a game that will have an impact on every team. If West Coast win they’re a chance at top spot, if Adelaide win they’re a chance for a home final.

North Melbourne’s last two games against the Western Bulldogs and Richmond will also be decisive. Win them both and they could finish fifth, or even fourth, lose them both and they will likely be eighth. They’ve got seven wins on the trot at the moment yet may not enter either game as favourites.

Geelong can still make the finals after their draw with the Saints, but only if they beat Collingwood next week, and see Adelaide lose to West Coast – if that happens it will come down to the Cats and Crows in Round 23.

The Crowd Says:

2015-08-25T12:52:48+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Are you talkin' to me?

2015-08-25T11:19:31+00:00

Ian

Guest


Wrong, rabid hawks fan, Hodge my second favourite of all time after LM, what happened is what matters, in an open field the contact would have been with the shoulder, the responsibility remains with the person causing he impact, at times that sucks but that is the only moral way to approach it. PS Don't think much of Freo (work colleagues) but the Fyfe charge was always a nonsense.

2015-08-25T02:49:08+00:00

jax

Guest


I agree about Hodge. The MRP could have also used the 'potential to cause serious injury' clause but they chose to ignore it? I don't want to see Fyfe made ineligible for that hit on Jacobs but by the letter of the law he should have being fined and therefore suspended. The MRP is a bad joke. They stage managed yesterday.

2015-08-25T01:20:56+00:00

New York Hawk

Guest


Please, you are all the same goobers who moan that the game isn't hard enough any more and in the same breath complain when the toughest player in the comp grazes a player who moved awkwardly into his path. You would all beg for Hodgey to have played almost 270 games for your club so stop bagging him.

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2015-08-24T20:42:16+00:00

Josh

Expert


Reckon that's two suspensions shall we say 'well handled' by the AFL today. Hodgey gets a nice little rest with no impact to the Hawks finals campaign, while Fyfe gets a free pass. I agree with the Fyfe decision, don't really think it was worth a fine, but in my view the Hodge incident definitely should've been ranked intentional, high contact, medium/high impact - instead it's given 'careless' which I just don't see how anyone who has really watched that footage can believe. I can't help but feel that, if it was in the middle of the season rather than on the eve of finals, Hodge would be sitting out four or more weeks for this one.

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2015-08-24T20:36:54+00:00

Josh

Expert


The thing about Hodge and Mitchell is that they're both excellent players, and they're also both a little dodgy at times. In the eyes of the footy media you can get away with plenty of dodgy-ness so long as you're an excellent player to start with. It's really only the blokes who are average footballers but love to dish out a hit that get dragged through the mud.

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2015-08-24T20:35:15+00:00

Josh

Expert


As I've said before, I don't think anyone can watch that footage and think this is 'careless' footy rather than very clearly intentional. That in my mind is what should have increased the suspension up to 3 or more weeks rather than higher impact.

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2015-08-24T20:33:17+00:00

Josh

Expert


Bit different really. I reckon Siggins probably knows his AFL career isn't long for this world and wants to go back home. Apparently having a lot of difficult dealing with the death of Walsh which you can understand. I like the mental picture of Gil making cash angels in his office.

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2015-08-24T20:12:13+00:00

Josh

Expert


Reckon the Swans win over Hawthorn early in the year is still their big achievement. But yes, it was an impressive game especially when you consider those outs. The GWS boys are getting a bit tired and have been whacked pretty hard with the injury stick themselves though so I won't read too much into it.

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2015-08-24T20:10:34+00:00

Josh

Expert


Not in the rules any more under the new MRP system.

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2015-08-24T20:09:08+00:00

Josh

Expert


I reckon both clubs definitely want Schache, if they're both being honest with themselves they know that a good key forward is more valuable to either of them than a defender. If Carlton rate their key forward stocks to the point where they think they would prefer a defender, they need to seriously re-assess that.

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2015-08-24T20:05:26+00:00

Josh

Expert


Reckon Richmond is still the new Richmond, Edgar.

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2015-08-24T20:03:43+00:00

Josh

Expert


Yeah, I may have deliberately worded it so that I would be able to get past that one and poke some fun at Mark Jamar. That was really a special case I think as you really couldn't name one without the other given how well they worked in tandem that season.

2015-08-24T13:34:31+00:00

Handles

Roar Guru


Making contact with the elbow to the head is indeed a no-no. Penalty - free kick. That is what should have happened here.

2015-08-24T11:53:45+00:00

Alicesprings

Guest


Dirty player that Hodge. I wonder how many more suspensions it will take before people and commentators begin to wake up to his form?? Same goes with that kneeing Mitchell. Maybe it's just a hawthorn thing??

2015-08-24T10:29:54+00:00

Jamie Radford

Roar Pro


Have to agree with Edgar about Nth. They win the ones they are supposed to lose and lose the ones they are supposed to win. Been good lately but just a matter of time before bad Nth rears its ugly head again.

2015-08-24T09:57:55+00:00

Abg

Guest


This is Dodgey Hodgey’s second go at taking out Wingard escaping penalty by MRP in 2014. Then, Darcy’s commentary was “Hodge saw an opportunity to poleax Chad Wingard and got him a bit too high”. Ironically, Clarko trotted out the it’s-a-hard-game rhetoric, as he did last Friday, skirting responsibility for intent to harm. http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2014-05-26/hodge-cleared-by-mrp With Friday’s incident, Ling’s first reaction was the player showed intent, “Oooh, that’s head high contact from hip and shoulder – that will be looked at very closely”. He later downplayed it after exhaustive replays and post Clarko’s “roll the tape at full speed” suggestion, the commentary team took the view the player had little to answer for. The errant shoulder / raised elbow is a recurring part of Hodge’s game and not becoming of a captain - he should get 6 and retire.

2015-08-24T08:19:54+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


I went back to the video yet again, for the 53rd time and Fyfe makes contact initially with his elbow to the face before his body comes in. The last time I looked making contact to the head with the elbow was regarded as a no-no.

2015-08-24T07:38:30+00:00

Edgar Slosh

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2015-08-24T07:31:32+00:00

Edgar Slosh

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