SPIRO: Let the 2015 RWC mind games begin!

By Spiro Zavos / Expert

The mind games for 2015 Rugby World Cup have began with England criticising Michael Cheika’s decision to take only two hookers to England.

Cheika alert! England, who always carry a QC as an essential part of their Rugby World Cup campaigns, can be expected to resort to legal chicanery if the opportunity to exploit Cheika’s mistake (in my opinion) arises.

Unfortunately, Cheika has set himself and the Wallabies campaign up as an easy and justifiable target.

My guess is that no major side, or any side with pretensions to winning the Webb Ellis trophy, has gone into a Rugby World Cup tournament, in another country/different hemisphere, without three hookers. At least in the last four tournaments.

During the inaugural 1987 Rugby World Cup in New Zealand the All Blacks captain and front-line hooker Andy Dalton was injured before the first game. Dalton stayed in the squad and won a winner’s medal even though he did not play a minute of the tournament.

The young Sean Fitzpatrick seized the moment and played every minute of every game. It is not clear what the All Blacks would have done if he had been injured. The team photo taken to celebrate their 1987 Rugby World Cup triumph shows Dalton as captain and Fitzpatrick, looking like a baby-faced assassin, sitting two players away from Dalton and also in the front row.

That was then. This is now. Since 1987, mainly as a safety matter, the laws of rugby and the protocols of the Rugby World Cup have advanced significantly in the matter of scrums and the requirements to field four props and two hookers in the starting 23.

There was an informative debate on The Roar (a tribute to the intelligence and rugby knowledge of all who joined in) in connection with David Lord’s recent article.

I thought that Red Kev’s response was spot on, pure gold: “Reckless. The purpose of a squad is to cover for injuries, that’s why you have to name one (cover player) – it makes the Rugby World Cup a tests of fitness, management and endurance as well as rugby skill. That’s why you can’t replace players willy-nilly, if you could it wouldn’t be a squad.”

This is a point that is virtually never made in discussing the possible outcome of a Rugby World Cup tournament. Teams are limited to 31 players in their squad, at any one time. This is what distinguishes the Rugby World Cup from say, the Rugby Championship where a coach has access to an unlimited number of players.

This 31-man squad requirement creates a more level playing field for the competing teams.

It especially works against the advantages of hosting a home tournament. Although when the tournament is played in Europe, the European teams do not have the disadvantage of having to fly a replacement halfway across the world, as the southern hemisphere teams are required to do.

The rules of the tournament create a situation where the best team does not necessarily win: the team that plays best in the tournament and under the tournament requirements wins. This is an important consideration that is often overlooked.

And even if Cheika brings James Hanson across to Europe, just in case he is needed, this does not get over the problem that if a player drops out of a squad through injury, he cannot be replaced for two days.

What happens, moreover, if the injury to one of the Wallabies’ hookers takes place a day before a Rugby World Cup match or during the warm-ups?

As Red Kev further points out: “Although Law 3.5 (g) seems to imply that if a team can only name two front rowers on the bench, then they are allowed to have a 22-man team compared with the opposition’s 23 without forfeiting, however that does not relieve them of the requirement to be able to cover the first replacement (blood or concussion being the obvious temporary ones) to each of LHP, Hooker, and THP. That is one hell of a fine line.

“The Rugby World Cup Tournament Rules (1.1.7) state that it is the responsibility of the team to ensure that they have sufficient players in the team to comply with the requirement of Law 3.5 (six front row players are requirement in a match team if the organising union is 23-man squads, as the Rugby World Cup is), in the event of last-minute unforeseen injuries.”

The point that needs to be stressed here is that Stephen Moore went down injured in the first minute of his first Test as Wallaby captain last year.

And Tatafu Polota-Nau, the second Wallaby hooker, goes down with what looks likes concussion virtually every match he plays. Throughout his career he has maintained the dangerous way of tackling, for himself and his opponent, of diving head-first at the boots of a runner.

Why he has never been coached to change this illegal tackling style is beyond me. Jerry Collins started his All Blacks career as a head-hunter tackler. His coaches instructed him to hold his hands high when going into a tackle and lowering them as he made his hit. This took the illegality out of his tackling while maintaining his hard-man approach.

It is an indictment of Australian coaching, at every level, that Polota-Nau, who really should not be even playing Test rugby after his innumerable concussions, has not changed his dangerous tackling method. You would not like to place money on him avoiding even one concussion check during the Rugby World Cup.

Given all this, it is hardly surprising that England has put the cat (Mike Catt, that is) among the pigeons on this issue. Catt is England’s attack coach. He has described Cheika’s gamble of only two hookers as “risky”.

He went to explain this: “I don’t know what the regulations are or the criteria for the actual tournament but that [the presumed requirement to present two bona fide hookers for each Rugby World Cup match] was one of the reasons why [we didn’t pick Hartley].”

Dylan Hartley, England’s long term, fiery hooker, is under a ban that prevents him from playing in England’s first match in Rugby World Cup 2015 against Fiji on September 18.

You don’t have to be a QC to see that there is room in all of this, if the situation arises, for legal mayhem to be launched against the Wallabies. It seems that England have ranked the Rugby World Cup tournament Rule 1.1.7 above Law 3.5 (g). A lawyers’ feast, in other words.

And it should be remembered that England have used their QC in previous Rugby World Cup tournaments to get them out of difficult situations.

In the 2003 Rugby World Cup, England defied an official and had 16 men on the field during a play. The QC got Sir Clive Woodward’s team out of this illegal situation, without the loss of points.

In the 2011 Rugby World Cup, England conducted the worst cheating ever in a major rugby tournament. Jonny Wilkinson was having trouble kicking goals at the enclosed stadium at Dunedin. An assistant coach switched the match balls for a ball Wilkinson had used at practice.

It is unclear whether Wilkinson knew about this. But the assistant coach was slapped on the wrist by being prevented from attending further matches in person.

How England survived this scandal and did not lose points is beyond comprehension.

It is ironic that England supporters and the UK media go on about Richie McCaw being a “cheat”. The articles with this accusation are due to start any day now from Mike Cleary, Stephen Jones and Mark Reason. Yet there was a virtual silence about England’s balls-up cheating at Dunedin, which was real cheating.

The point in all of this is that England will not hesitate to use the full force of the law against the Wallabies, if the chance arises.

Cheika has made himself a hostage to misfortune by stupidly not dropping someone (say Joe Tomane or Wycliff Palu) from the bloated wings/centres/fullbacks group or the equally bloated loose forward group to make way for James Hanson as the third hooker, and legal safety for the Wallabies.

This get us to another (Zavos) complaint about Cheika’s 31-man squad. It seems to me that there has been an element of favouritism in the selection on the part of Cheika.

Kane Douglas gets in the squad after playing 20 minutes of rugby (and undistinguished rugby at that) in Australia this year. He was injured a bit and played poorly in Ireland in the last season. He was a member, though, of Cheika’s Waratahs side that won the 2014 Super Rugby tournament.

Another controversial selection, Palu, was also a member of the that 2014 Waratahs. He has, however, played poorly and been injured at times for the last few seasons.

Polota-Nau’s selection represents more Waratahs favouritism.

The victory over the All Blacks at Sydney confirmed, or should have confirmed, that David Pocock should be the starting No.8 for the Wallabies. He can do everything that Palu used to be able to do with ball carrying and tackling. But he does more at the break down and more linking up than Palu ever did.

Palu’s career, as far as I am concerned, resembles that of David Lyons. He started off with enormous promise as a crashing No.8 in the Willie Ofahengaue mode. But, like Lyons, he never developed any game on defence. You never see Palu in cover or contesting a ruck near the Waratahs/Wallabies try line after the opposition has made a break out.

Stephen Larkham, the Brumbies coach who has been co-opted into the coaching ranks of the Wallabies for the Rugby World Cup, has dismissed the suggestion that a selection panel outside of the coaching staff should be responsible for picking the Wallabies.

Larkham is adamant that the head coach understands the individuals in his squad and “how they will fit into the team environment”.

I would agree with this. The head coach needs to own the responsibility for the team which he presents on match day. It is, as Larkham suggests, the head coach’s “vision of how he wants the team to play” that is the crucial factor.

But, as in many matters rugby, the New Zealand system seems to be worth looking at. The head coach (Steve Hansen) and his assistant (Ian Foster) are selectors, along with a designated outside selector (Grant Fox). Fox can be out-voted by the two coaches, in other words.

In the case of the All Blacks, too, Fox represents that tradition of former All Blacks moving into the ranks of coaches and selectors. He also represents a useful foil for the coaches to test their views on players and tactics on someone who is involved but not actually responsible for much more than selecting the squads and teams to play in the various tournaments.

I have said this before and will continue to say it. It continually amazes me that the most successful coach of the Wallabies, and arguably one of the most successful coaches in terms of achievements in the professional era, Rod Macqueen, is never co-opted into the Grant Fox role for the Wallabies.

Finally, the first apparently silly prediction has been broadcast. At the end of Rugby HQ this week, Greg Martin, ever the enthusiast and optimist, made the prediction that Fiji and Australia will emerge from the pool of death to contest the quarter finals. No England (despite its QC and home ground advantage) and no Wales.

But then, after England’s poor performance against France at the weekend, perhaps the Greg Martin prediction isn’t quite that silly.

The Crowd Says:

2015-08-31T00:20:41+00:00

Hertryk

Guest


It is unclear whether Wilkinson knew about this. But the assistant coach was slapped on the wrist by being prevented from attending further matches in person..... From what is told in Jonny Wilkinson's book he did know.. Another ironic note from the weekend .. Wayne Smith after his stroke, stated he sometimes confuses the Wallabies for the Waratahs... perfectly fine.. most of us do Wayne.. the majority of the Wallabies are Waratahs anyway..

2015-08-25T11:19:35+00:00

Mike

Guest


"I may disagree with most people from NSW, but i doubt there are too many fans or coaches from other states and Europe that would select Hooper over Smith." Shifting the goalposts. I called you out over your assertion that Hooper "tackles well but that’s all he really offers", not a comparison with Smith or anyone else. Personally I would have Smith in the team, but that's a different issue. And no, its not just NSW fans that say Hooper offers a lot in attack, not by a long way.

2015-08-25T00:28:29+00:00

Nobrain

Guest


Argentina played and won over Scotland in 2007 and 2011 RWC.

2015-08-24T23:39:26+00:00

44bottles

Roar Guru


"This was offered with tongue firmly in cheek….."

2015-08-24T23:09:46+00:00

Lindsay Amner

Roar Guru


I'm sorry but you're wrong, the laws say he can't be replaced. I quote Law 3.5 (k): "When 23 players are nominated for a match, or if the Union having jurisdiction over a match or a match organiser decides that where uncontested scrums are ordered as a result of there being no suitably trained and experienced front row replacement for any reason the team concerned shall not be entitled to replace the player whose departure caused uncontested scrums." Once uncontested scrums are ordered, any player can play in the scrum, but the player causing uncontested scrums cannot be replaced. All the other front rowers could be replaced, just the one who went off and caused uncontested scrums cannot be. So a team wouldn't go down below 14 players.

2015-08-24T22:42:42+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Andrew Johns' distaste for the tactic as he tells the tale in "25 Years of State of Origin" is an absolute crack up.

2015-08-24T22:39:28+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Kepu was a back rower in schoolboys before moving to the front row. He has played prop for something like 7 seasons. Sio again was a back rower who moved to front row and spent possibly a year (never at senior level) at hooker. So only one and hardly what you would want in a Super Rugby game, let alone a test match. I remember the Brumbies paying for it in 2014 when Moore, Siliva and Mann-Rea were all injured. Their set piece struggled with no specialist hooker. And most importantly, if Sio had done well at hooker, don't you think he might have stayed there? I'd say there's a reason he moved to prop.

2015-08-24T20:31:09+00:00

Lee

Guest


Hi Atlas, You are quite right. Thank you. I was thinking of the knockout part of the competition and I worded it all wrong. Cheers Lee

2015-08-24T16:54:24+00:00

Mike

Guest


Re those final scrums in Bled 2, I think I was too kind to WBs. There is a scrum at the 62 minute mark, at which WB pack is pushed back. They could easily have copped a penalty but NZ got clean ball and ref let it play on. Then there is a scrum at 64 minute mark where WB pack are again pushed back briefly, but Smith gets it out quickly for Nonu’s try. Then there is a scrum at 76 minutes which could best be described as parity. Then the final scrum is at 80 minutes and it looks like the WBs are going backwards yet again but they get the ball out for a final couple of phases.

2015-08-24T16:25:45+00:00

luker

Guest


I'm not sure why the 22 thing is an issue. If e.g. Moore goes down within 72 hours of kick off then Smith gets named in the 23 and the most likely of the props (I hear Sio) covers hooker. I'm not defending Cheika, but there is no way this wasn't accounted for. If we had a prop and a hooker injured in the last 72 hours before the match, THEN, we might have a problem.

2015-08-24T15:57:38+00:00

Mike

Guest


“Just keep dreaming that Robinson would make it better.” Okay, you still want to argue about Robinson. Fine. There is every reason to think that he would significantly improve our scrummaging performance, particularly against Northern Hemisphere sides. Lets look at the last series he played, the 2014 EOYT: * Against Wales, our scrum was hammered. Slipper was on when the Wallabies scrum copped five continuous resets followed by a penalty try, yet there were no scrum problems when Robinson came on. * Against France, Cheika later admitted to “maybe one or two poor scrums”. That is somewhat of an understatement, but whatever, none of the problems occurred when Robinson was on. * Against Ireland our starting scrum were again outclassed. There was a penalty against us after Robinson came on, but every commentator I have read blames Hanson for that. * Against England our scrum problems were really exposed: We were under pressure throughout, and both of England’s tries were scored from scrums in which they smashed us, with Slipper on at loosehead. And surprise, surprise, our two best scrum performances were after Robinson came on. Experience counts, particularly in a pool against northern hemisphere sides. Slipper is not a bad scrummager but he isn’t in the same class as BR. Cheika seems to have formed the view even before EOYT 2014 that he wanted younger props with a high work rate around the field, and he didn’t value scrummaging ability. That attitude led to a close game against Wales and a loss to England. Despite that lesson, he is making the same mistake again but even worse this time: taking an injured Slipper and two back-ups, one of whom has 9 tests (only two starts) and the other a rookie. We are leading with our chin.

2015-08-24T15:39:47+00:00

Mike

Guest


"Did you miss the AB scrum being demolished in the second bled, the first scrum?" You still don't have much idea, if you think citing a single scrum is an answer to a comment about a pack's scrummaging performance over a whole match. Fine, I will say it slowly for you: You can always find a scrum that went well, even for the most beaten pack. Its like breakdowns or tackles – any side can always win individual scrums, but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t schooled over the course of the match. Even in the proverbial monstering of the Australian pack at Twickenham in 2005, they still won some scrums and looked quite good in a couple of them. That doesn’t change the fact that their scrum was smashed overall. Even by half time of Bled 2, the writing was on the wall. Phil Lutton’s comment at half time was a cruel but fair summary: "No point looking at players like Cooper as scapegoats here. The Wallaby pack has been battered all over the park tonight and the All Blacks have been able to mount all sorts of pressure. Scott Sio is having a nightmare at the scrum and the line-out hasn't been much better. Expect the finishers to start the show early tonight." Things didn’t improve much in the following half. The Wallabies scrum came under major pressure about 5 minutes after half time, and Sio was pulled shortly after that. They did have a good looking scrum right near the end when the AB pack were looking pretty tired but by that time the game was long gone. "Outside of those 2 penalties the scrums and the scrum the wallabies smashed were even in the second bled." In your dreams. Our scrum was under pressure in the scrums at (roughly) the 25 minute, 45 minute and 60 minute mark. The latter led to Nonu's second try. Apart from the first, the only scrum where we were holding our own was the one right near the end.

2015-08-24T14:06:52+00:00

Connor33

Guest


Thanks, 'Twas.

2015-08-24T13:54:29+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Did you miss the AB scrum being demolished in the second bled, the first scrum? The 2 penalties against Sio for incorrect binding or losing the bind were never shown on camera so hard to judge what the cause was. Outside of those 2 penalties the scrums and the scrum the wallabies smashed were even in the second bled. Just keep dreaming that Robinson would make it better.

2015-08-24T13:52:43+00:00

Connor33

Guest


I agree, Sluggy. The thing, though, about common sense is that it's not too common, not with respect to this whole hooker issue. But it is an opinion site, so I take my hat off to those who have raised questions.

2015-08-24T13:51:52+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


agree, I have pointed that out before but the 4 wingers for 1 position myth constinues, they forget about covering other positions.

2015-08-24T13:44:25+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


DanFan - Any team would if there were 2 injuries to the one frontrow position. No team brings 4 players capable of playing each front row position. 2 injuries and you could not field a suitable bench for a game so of course a dispensation would be granted. These are called mitigating circumstances. BTW of course there is a provision for dispensation. What if there is a bus crash and 15 players are injured within 72 hours of a game, are you saying no replacements would be allowed then?

2015-08-24T13:33:21+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


so saying he got mate rates with Barnes is saying part of the blame for AB's loss is because of Barnes i.e. blaming the referee

2015-08-24T13:21:51+00:00

Handles

Roar Guru


Well, Slow Eater, I think that is the first time Deans has been accused of letting Cooper run roughshod. If you remember, Deans refused to select him in 2013, something that had a great deal of impact on his ultimate sacking.

2015-08-24T12:48:24+00:00

the french

Roar Rookie


Interesting article Spiro. If the Cheik is pixking players on who he knows rather than what they can bring to the team then forget about thre RWC win for the WBs.

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