AFL Finals: Hawthorn Hawks vs Adelaide Crows preview and prediction

By Josh / Expert

This time last year I scoffed at the suggestion that a semi-final could be won from a team outside the top four.

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I wasn’t without my evidence – before last year, it had only been done twice in fourteen years under the current AFL finals system.

Once by Hawthorn in 2001, who trumped Port Adelaide by three points in the semi and then gave Essendon a genuine fright in the preliminary final, going down by less than two goals.

The second time by Collingwood in 2007, who knocked out West Coast in an extra-time semi and then came within a goal of the grand final, losing to Geelong the next week.

But two times in fourteen years, out of a total 28 attempts? A success rate of about 7 per cent? I was more than happy to say it wasn’t going to happen again any time soon.

How wrong I was. First North Melbourne knocked out Geelong, then Port Adelaide stunned the Dockers, and the Power missed the Grand Final by just 3 points.

Coming into the semi-final week of 2015, it seems like a realistic possibility once again that a team from the lower four might trump a qualifying final loser and win their way through to the prelim.

I said in my preview of the Crows’ elimination final last week that if any team from the lower four had a shot at the flag this year, it was them.

I stick by that – they just tick more boxes for me than any of the other teams in the lower four, and I wasn’t surprised to see them get the win on Saturday night.

They have a midfield studded with stars like Patrick Dangerfield, Rory Sloane, and Scott Thompson. They have one of the league’s elite ruckmen in Sam Jacobs. They have lots of options up forward – Taylor Walker, Josh Jenkins, Tom T Lynch, Eddie Betts, Charlie Cameron.

The one thing that really pushed them above the other lower four teams for mine was that finals experience. Most of these players were involved in the 2012 finals where the Crows played three finals for one win and came within one more goal of a grand final appearance.

The key weakness that I see for the Crows is that they lack some experience in defence. Daniel Talia and Rory Laird can be relied upon but the likes of Kyle Hartigan, Luke Brown and Kyle Cheney are still developing their craft.

With the Hawks confirming Jack Gunston won’t play, that’s less of an issue for this game than it could be. It leaves Jarryd Roughead as their only real forward weapon and Daniel Talia should be able to keep him quiet.

However it’s the Hawks fleet of mid-small forwards, Cyril Rioli, Luke Breust and Paul Puopolo who will have the Crows worried.

The Hawks of course have talent all over the ground and no lack of finals experience either.

Probably their biggest weakness is the ruck department, they got killed there by Nic Naitanui on the weekend and while Jacobs might not be quite as devastating, you’d think he should have a good night all the same.

If Jacobs can provide the ball on a silver platter to his midfielders, the Hawks will be in trouble. But if the Hawks can limit his influence and break even or win in the midfield battle, they should be able to set up enough scoring opportunities to get over the line.

One of the big keys to winning the match for the Hawks will be trying to keep Eddie Betts quiet. Betts kicked five goals for the Crows on the weekend and if he’s allowed to have a similar performance this week the Hawks will be in serious trouble.

The versatile Ben Stratton will probably get that job. At 189cm he’s a fair bit taller than Betts but he’s probably the best suited of any of the Hawks back six to shut down a small forward.

The key to winning for the Crows will be pressure, pressure, pressure. That’s how the Eagles beat the Hawks this week and you can bet that game tape will be studied intensely by the Crows coaching staff this week.

The Hawks just couldn’t handle the heat against the Eagles and if the Crows are able to put that same kind of pressure on them then they’re a red hot chance to get the win. The Hawks are known for their precise kicking, but putting on the pressure stuffs that right up.

How the Hawks bounce back from last week’s humiliating defence may well determine their fate for the next few years. We’ve already considered whether or not this might be the beginning of the end for the Hawks, and what they do this week will in many ways be the answer to that question.

If they can rile themselves up and return to peak form you’d say they’re still a genuine shot at the flag and will probably win through. If they can’t, it might be the start of a serious decline.

Simply put, from what I’ve seen of the Hawks over the last few years, I don’t think they’re the type to put in that kind of performance two weeks in a row, and if they play their best footy, I think they should edge out the Crows.

Prediction: Hawthorn by 12 points.

The Crowd Says:

2015-09-17T06:53:13+00:00

Dean N

Guest


My feeling is that the Hawks will murder the Crows (see what I did there). Adelaide away are generally ordinary (unless playing cellar dwellers) and extremely fortunate that they faced the Bulldogs at the MCG instead of Etihad. If the Crows can't beat them at Adelaide Oval then they are no chance at the G. Now some will mention that Adelaide smashed West Coast not that long ago. This is true. However it should be noted the Eagles were missing Masten, Schofield, Wellingham, Sinclair, Butler & Selwood while McGovern still had a gimpy shoulder.

2015-09-17T04:48:13+00:00

jacques of Lilydale

Guest


This week will see Hawthorn in their traditional strip, not the Priscilla Queen of the Desert wardrobe malfunction they were forced to wear. That change alone is worth 10 goals!

2015-09-17T04:44:39+00:00

jacques of Lilydale

Guest


That could be famous last words Edgar.

2015-09-17T04:43:42+00:00

jacques of Lilydale

Guest


You can't rely on anything from Rioli except short bursts??? He's the ultimate harrasser, tackler, rebound artist. He only needs his short bursts as you call them each quarter and he'll kill you. Everyone's getting a bit carried away by the Crow's previous game against the dogs, that was a game where no one was accountable for anyone, Walker and Dangerfield weren't even manned up, they could roam where they like without any pressure such was the openess of the game. You could basically walk through the centre and find a one on three scenario to kick to. Dare say that wont happen Friday.

2015-09-17T03:40:43+00:00

Lroy

Guest


Every year the pundits pick the winners from the elimination final to beat the losers of the qualifying final.. every year it doesn't happen. Hawks only missed out on second spot by 2 points... they didn't finish so high for no reason. Crows are in for a reality check methinks.

2015-09-17T02:09:35+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


The wheels on Pods' wheelchair are better lubricated than those on Lake's and Frawley has a lounge chair, not a wheelchair. With Tex, Jenkins and Lynch, there's no need for Pods. It will be comical watching the AA nominee for half back, good ol' Kneecaps, try to shut down on Betts, Cameron, Danger or Sloane. Imagine DD Hodge trying to run with them? Lewis and Danger? Hmmm? First round knockout.

2015-09-17T02:05:09+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


That is all they need from him most of the time :) but the day he put 4 Solid Quarters together I thing everyone will be very surprised even Hawks Supporters.

2015-09-17T01:56:12+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


That's the spirit, fella

2015-09-17T01:55:45+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


That's because it is all you ever get with him. Maybe one day he'll put 4 solid quarters together. I highly doubt it though. He should realize a handful of matches doesnt make a career.

2015-09-17T01:48:50+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


"You can’t rely on Rioli for anything except short bursts" Is all that is sometimes need for the hawks to Surge is one of Rioli Short Bursts

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2015-09-17T01:36:12+00:00

Josh

Expert


As you pointed out, Pods got something like 20 goals in a fortnight and still couldn't even get a farewell game against the Cats. For one reason or another I don't they'll consider him.

2015-09-17T00:17:20+00:00

Brian

Guest


I really hope the Crows play talls because I think it would be a massive mistake. Yes West Coast pressured Hawthorn but like Richmond they were also able to keep the ball through efficient disposal when they had it. That will be Adelaide's biggest test whether their less heralded players will execute correctly under pressure. Hawthorn's forward line is great at exerting pressure. Rioli, Puopolo, Roughead, Breust, Roughead will all chase you down. The Crows will need to dispose correctly and not panic. Shorter players usually have better disposal skills.

2015-09-16T23:50:24+00:00

Bunratty c

Roar Rookie


Adelaide by 11!

2015-09-16T23:15:16+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


Schoenmakers will be needed up front. Spanger returning from injury is an interesting option. I agree the small forwards will be key. You can't rely on Rioli for anything except short bursts. Pup and Breust need to play the pressure game to get a good return for inside 50s

2015-09-16T22:59:28+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


I think you will see the Hawks Bring in Schoenmakers or Spanger for Gunston so if need be they can go down back to assist with the talls. But the other risk for both teams going to tall is the Weather with chances of Showers for Friday it could come down to the Small Forwards, and that scare me a bit due to Betts. Hawks would need Pup, Rioli and Brust to step up just to null the affect of Betts at the other end.

2015-09-16T22:46:21+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


That's ok if Lake or Frawley want to take him. Thats the whole idea. Who will take Jenkins and Walker then? Podsiadly has the added advantage of being a brilliant behind the ball player. Is he worth taking a risk? Absolutely. Drop Atkins and bring him in.

2015-09-16T21:56:02+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


Podsiadly was a great player,. but lake or Frawly will be able to keep up with him and shut him down, he is not as young or fit as he was in his Geelong Days .

2015-09-16T21:30:46+00:00

Edgar Slosh

Roar Guru


Stratton will get Lynch. Hawthorns forward line has to be restructured. I keep hearing the name Podsiadly. He could be a surprise that would hurt Hawthorn. He can play up forward and behind the ball when he's needed. He did that for Geelong successfully. Pods had a great year at SANFL level and told the Crows hierarchy to play the kids instead of him. He had a bag of 9 goals late then a bag of 11 the week after. He could be the X-factor if the Crows are bold and decide to play him

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