Celebrating short Origin careers

By John Coomer / Roar Guru

The FOGs (Former Origin Greats) are regularly wheeled out in the media, and rightly so. But there are a lot of ex-Origin players who aren’t often spoken about.

These blokes only played a few Origin matches for a variety of reasons – form, injuries, suspensions, being out of favour with selectors, or just through the bad luck of having been born in the wrong era, being stuck behind a champion.

With that in mind, I’ve put together two fantasy teams – one from Queensland and one from New South Wales – made up exclusively of former players who got between one and three Origin matches in their careers (i.e. one full series or less).

These are all blokes who I would have loved to see play more at that level.

Regardless of how many Origins they played, they all should be proud of their careers. They are (and will always be) Origin players, it’s a very exclusive club.

Queensland
1. Paul Hauff
2. Joe Kilroy
3. Josh Hannay
4. Shannon Hegarty
5. Adam Mogg
6. Daniel Wagon
7. Nathan Fien
8. Danny Nutley
9. John Doyle
10. John Buttigieg
11. Peter Ryan
12. Brad Meyers
13. Scott Sattler

New South Wales
1. Jonathan Docking
2. Ken Nagas
3. Brett Rodwell
4. Michael Buettner
5. Darren Albert
6. Steve Carter
7. Kevin Hastings
8. Geoff Bugden
9. Luke Priddis
10. Mark Sargent
11. David Brooks
12. Mark Geyer
13. Graeme O’Grady

For Queensland, I could have included Artie Beetson, Rod Reddy and John Lang, who all only played in the first Origin match in 1980, but they each played plenty of representative football prior to that, so I opted for players who didn’t get as much chance at that level.

I didn’t select Tommy Raudonikis and Graham Eadie in my NSW side for the same reason.

Halfback for Queensland was the most difficult spot to fill – I had to search long and hard to find one who played fewer than three games. I ended up with Nathan Fien, who played just the one match in 2001, before switching allegiances to play for the Kiwis.

Mark Geyer is the most surprising inclusion in my Blues side. He’s hardly ‘forgotten’, but it’s amazing that such a physical player, seemingly suited to Origin, played only three matches in his career. Thanks to his famous run-in with Wally Lewis in one of those games, at least he’ll always feature on the Origin highlight reels.

Since 1980, 182 men have played State of Origin for Queensland, and 257 for New South Wales. It’s often said that Queensland ‘pick and stick’ with their players, and to an extent that’s true, but that philosophy most likely came about due to Queensland having a lot less quality in terms of options to choose from in the early days.

In more recent times, Queensland have had plenty of quality selection options, but they’re obviously not going to make too many changes to such a dominant side.

In all, fewer than 50 Queensland players have played three Origin games or fewer, to NSW’s 100.

Which former players would you like to have seen play more Origin games?

The Crowd Says:

2016-06-16T04:45:59+00:00

Julian King

Roar Guru


I'll toss up North Sydney Bears flyer David Hall.

2016-01-06T07:11:50+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Steve Carter, Panthers' 5/8 in 90's played 1 SOO game too lol.

2015-12-27T07:46:08+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Craig Salvatori(NSW) and Mike Mclean(QLD) Craig Smith both a kiwi who played SOO, then later played for NZ.

AUTHOR

2015-12-25T21:24:52+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


Certainly a special side that 95 team, always great to see them get a mention in any Origin discussion. It's a surprising fact that only 2 of them played less than 3 matches overall in their Origin careers. 9 Qld players made their Origin debuts in that series - O'Davis, Danny Moore, Sing, Lam, Hearn, Bartrim, Ikin, Cook and Teevan. Their unexpected success led to many of them getting more Origin games in future years, even when the Super League players were back and available for selection.

2015-12-24T13:15:21+00:00

MJ

Guest


I may have suggested Fattys Nevilles, but only 2 of those who played in that series meet the criteria (and i don't think either Terry Cook or Craig Teevan would make this team).

2015-12-24T00:57:55+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Ryan O'Hara anyone?

AUTHOR

2015-12-24T00:39:38+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


I think Mario's style was well suited to Origin, its a shame he didn't play more than 2 games. He was a bit unlucky in that the series where did get a go (1989) was one where NSW ran into a red hot Qld side, with Wally and Gene Miles etc at their peak.

2015-12-23T23:50:43+00:00

Gurudoright

Guest


Trivia question Q. Who played more origin games for NSW, Mark or Matt Geyer? A. Hard to believe but both played the same amount of games, 3 each

AUTHOR

2015-12-23T22:53:00+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


He actually played 5 games for Qld Niall, ruling him out of a "1 series or less" selection criteria. He's really unlucky that he was behind JT for most of his career. In a different era, I'm sure he would have played a lot more. I agree he was a great player though, especially overcoming those two bad leg injuries early in his career.

AUTHOR

2015-12-23T22:49:06+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


Great suggestion Mike, I loved his fearless style.

AUTHOR

2015-12-23T22:47:07+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


Brad Izzard is another one I was a big fan of Johnno, I thought he would have been in the "3 games or less" Origin club, but he actually played 4 according to this website below. http://www.finder.com.au/state-of-origin/full-list-of-nsw-players That's the only reason I didn't have him in my side. Either way though, I agree it would have been great to see him get more opportunities at that level.

AUTHOR

2015-12-23T22:43:40+00:00

John Coomer

Roar Guru


Great side Ozzie Bob, I was a big fan of Greg Florimo (and the Bears). I initially had him in my side but according to the below website he played 4 Origin games, which ruled him out of my 1 series or less selection criteria. http://www.finder.com.au/state-of-origin/full-list-of-nsw-players I would have loved to have seen him play even more Origin though. He was perfectly suited, and could have played several positions as a utility.

2015-12-23T19:57:25+00:00

Niall

Guest


Would Scott Prince count for Queensland? Great player.

2015-12-23T19:29:29+00:00

Mike from Tari

Guest


What about that wild man 2nd rower Tony Rampling.

2015-12-23T16:21:09+00:00

William Dalton Davis

Roar Rookie


I know it may not be in the spirit of the article, but (if you don't include the farcical residents representative fixtures before SOO) big Artie Beetson only played 3 games for QLD. Born too early(and gone too early for that matter RIP), but not so early as to leave us a real Gem of Australian sporting culture.

2015-12-23T14:16:04+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Get Brad Izzard on the bench,and get Micheal Buetneer in there to.

2015-12-23T13:31:05+00:00

yes man

Guest


yes but he didnt cost NSw the game

2015-12-23T12:07:10+00:00

Ozzie Bob

Guest


1. Hazem El Masri 2. Hoppa Snr 3. Joel Monaghan 4. Jamal Idris 5. Nathan Merritt 6. Greg Florimo 7. Jason Taylor/ John Simon 8. Keith Galloway 9. Mario/ 10. Mark Sargent 11. Mark Geyer 12. David Brooks 13. Tony Butterfield 14. Luke Priddis 15. Jason King 16. Tim Grant 17. Steve Morris

2015-12-23T10:57:46+00:00

Johnno

Guest


3 Elton John

2015-12-23T10:57:19+00:00

Johnno

Guest


yep +1 Falcon

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