Statistically your side has bugger all chance in 2016

By Tim Gore / Expert

It’s hard to believe but the 2016 season is less than a month away. Soon we’ll be seeing footballers on TV doing what they’re meant to do: playing football.

And it will be real football, not some pre-season rubbish that unnecessarily risks your side’s precious cattle.

Think about it, if pre-season comps were such a great idea, why is it nobody else has them? None of the NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, EPL, La Liga, Serie A or Bundesliga would dream of making their sides go through a farce like the Auckland Nines or AFL’s who-gives-a-damn cup.

Every year some poor team – this year the Manly Sea Eagles – cop bad injuries attending these meaningless competitions and every year we wonder at the point of it.

Football is a business and pre-season competitions are bad for business. Any side with half a brain protects their key players by keeping them home. So we don’t see many stars anyway because they’ve got a ‘niggle’ or some such story.

If we want to do pre-season let’s do it Hunger Games style. Each side has trials for the final spots in their squads. The teams they send to Auckland should be the last 15 standing from these trials.

Those players have the chance to go out and impress on the big – or semi-big – stage in NRL team colours to ensure we still have allegiance and interest. That way we’d see full on, no holds barred games, and probably the birth of new star players.

And if a player got injured, well it’s still sad, but it doesn’t affect your actual squad.

As for the Indigenous All Stars game, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander players are an ornament of the great game of rugby league. Every single first-grade side features superb Indigenous players and has since I started watching in the 1970s. And they are arguably the best players, like Johnathan Thurston and Greg Inglis.

However, who can remember the last time the two named sides for the Indigenous All Stars game looked anything like the sides that actually took the field? Once more injuries and niggles rob both sides of the best players.

If we want to honour the first Australians’ role in rugby league properly we should hold the match a week after the grand final. That way we’d likely get two great sides playing out a great game, rather than second and third choice players. And if someone gets injured the next season is five months of recovery time away.

Pre-season comps are just an unnecessary risk because, let’s face it, it is bloody unlikely that your side is going to win the premiership in any given year already.

Copping injuries in pre-season games just makes the job even harder.

On the most basic statistic – one side out of 16 must win – your side has just 6.25 per cent of winning in 2016.

Here are some stats that show just how remote most side’s chances are:

• Of the 246 sides that didn’t make the finals the previous season during the history of the NRL, only 23 (9.3%) have made the top four the following season.

• In the 18 seasons of the NRL to date 100 per cent of the premiers have finished in the top four.

• Further, in only three of those 18 seasons (16.6%) was the premier not a finalist in the previous season (Penrith 2003, Wests Tigers 2005 and Roosters 2013).

• In fact only six of those premiers (33%) finished outside the top four the previous season.

• In only six instances (33%) has the runner-up been from outside the top four. In only three instances (Parramatta 2009, Roosters 2010 and Bulldogs 2012) were the season’s runners-up not in the previous years finals.

So the chances of Manly, Canberra, Penrith, Parramatta, Warriors, Titans, Wests Tigers and Newcastle this year would seem remote at best, especially the Raiders, Titans, Wests Tigers and Newcastle as 60 per cent of the time the premier has played in a decider within the past six seasons. The Raiders haven’t played in a preliminary final since 1997, almost 20 years ago.

• Only one premier – Brisbane in 1997-1998 – can sort of lay claim to winning back premierships during the NRL era.

• In fact on only seven occasions (39%) has the premier from the previous year made the top four. So the Cowboys’ back-to-back chances are statistically poor.

• In only six instances (16.6%) have teams that played in the previous year’s grand final played in the next.

• On only two occasions – Melbourne 2007 and Manly 2008 – has the runner-up from the previous season won the premiership. So Brisbane’s chances look slim too.

So, after all that doomsaying, who statistically is a good chance of winning in 2016?

Given the above stats, it will most probably be one of the following sides lifting the trophy at the end of the upcoming season: the Roosters or Storm.

We’ve got a long way to go but I’ll be interested to see if these stats prove correct!

The Crowd Says:

2016-02-11T23:24:53+00:00

Up the Wahs

Roar Guru


Football does have it's cups though I.e Carling Cup for EPL, Ideally the NRL needs a Cup and it would be great to have to first round before Round 1, that will wet the appetites of League starved fans (ie 100% of us) while at the same time have a match with meaning. These Cup games can be hosted outside of normal areas as well. Just a thought

2016-02-11T14:13:52+00:00

Aaron Fraser

Guest


Good article Tim. I'll add a couple of Scott Woodward stats (hope you don't mind my borrowing and slight updates, Scott): "We all know that no team has gone back to back in 23 years, but just as intimidating is the fact that no team has flown back from England and won the Premiership this century, in fact, only three teams (The Roosters in 2003, the Melbourne Storm in 2008, the Brisbane Broncos in 2015) have actually even made it to the Grand Final." So that effectively rules out Broncos, Cowboys and Roosters. "In the 20 times (AFL/16 and NRL/4) that the current finals format has been used the GF winner has come from within the top 3 teams after the home and away season (100%)."

2016-02-11T13:14:49+00:00

pete bloor

Guest


Its all good, that's treatable - he'll just pick another team

2016-02-11T13:14:00+00:00

pete bloor

Guest


Congrats Tim

2016-02-11T13:13:11+00:00

pete bloor

Guest


For me the main issue is with 16 "outcomes" we just don't have enough data. It's like we've rolled a 16 side dice 20 times and then etched the results on stone tablets. Take pre nrl and you had a lot repeat premiership winners or runners up etc. But I do enjoy the overall premise, realistically every team is far from probable. And yet we've got fans from 13 teams saying they make the top 4

2016-02-11T10:31:13+00:00

no one in particular

Roar Guru


Nines winner and NAB Challenge winner will hold their trophy high, as if that's an achievement. The Intternational champions Cup winner will leave the trophy on the plane. That's the difference

2016-02-11T10:18:53+00:00

Peter

Guest


Lol :)

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T10:09:03+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Guilty as charged!

2016-02-11T07:24:28+00:00

Peter

Guest


i don't know why i bother commenting on here. everyone is clueless and talk dribble all day long, without tackling the real issues. Stop getting side tracked with other topics.

2016-02-11T05:00:08+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Please don't agree with me...that's not what I'm saying at all...

2016-02-11T04:21:33+00:00

Casper

Guest


Hope they actually enforce the markers having to be square and onside if they stop the attacking side protecting their field goal kickers. Some of those islander kids will probably have to learn how to play the ball with their feet, they seem to be the main offenders. Watch refs ignore the shot clock as the season rolls on, why not give the attacking team the ball and 6 tackles from the 20 metre line if the drop out isn' t done in time. While they're at it, let's also have the refs penalise those guys who do the big lunge on the ground when tackled to milk a hold down penalty, that one gets up my nose in almost every game. There are quite a few serial offenders at that one.

2016-02-11T04:21:29+00:00

Peter

Guest


Exactly Barry, thats what i was trying to say regarding trial matches being no different then pre-season tournament. Its a waste of time. Although parra did win 370k in the nines.Since teams have to play trial matches anyway, we might as well make it Round 1 of the season in February instead of March, and if they still get injured then so be it.At least it will happen in a real match not in a trials match.

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T04:21:12+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


You know what they say Walter: Lies, damned lies and statistics!

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T04:18:17+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Sam, apologies. You are correct.

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T04:17:24+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Preseason yes, competition no. Player requirements no.

2016-02-11T03:59:06+00:00

Walter Penninger

Roar Guru


Maybe this is the season that is the exception to your statistics. Everyone is of the view that the teams are very close this year, so each week it is going to be hard to tip the winners and each team will need to put big efforts in to win. This may lead to more injuries and more pressure on the leading teams at origin time. Cronulla, Canberra, Warriors, Eels, Manly and Dragons all look more competitive this year and while the Broncos and Cowboys look strong again, Melbourne, Bulldogs, Roosters, Souths all look weaker.

2016-02-11T03:28:34+00:00

JOHNY BULLDOG

Roar Rookie


Yeah he's apparently made a few changes in his life over the off season-I reckon he's in for a big year.Also despite the criticism Dessie will get young Hoppa back to his best.

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T03:04:01+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Yep. Mind you, coming from a Wests Tigers fan. Pot calling kettle black!

2016-02-11T02:59:05+00:00

Parrafan

Guest


I say the same thing about my little one Tim. One Tigers fan told me a should be put away for child abuse.

AUTHOR

2016-02-11T02:51:32+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Keep a lid on it LF!

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