NRL Thursday Night forecast - Good Friday Edition

By Lachlan Bickley / Roar Guru

Welcome back to The Roar‘s NRL Thursday Night Forecast series – special Good Friday edition. With no game this evening, we will instead be previewing the marquee Good Friday game.

Tomorrow, of course sees a replay of one of the most contentious games of 2015.

With the Bulldogs leading by one point and time expiring James Graham chopped down Rabbitohs halfback Adam Reynolds as he attempted a field goal. The Rabbitohs converted the ensuing penalty but only after the Dogs lost their collective minds earning both Graham and David Klemmer contrary conduct charges.

Thankfully those events haven’t come up much in the lead up to this game.

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There are a lot of parallels between these two teams heading into this match.

Both teams were big winners in Round 1 and while the Rabbitohs enjoyed a similarly convincing win in Round 2, both teams struggled last weekend. Well-reputed forwards struggled to assert dominance and their halves failed to convert the field position they did have against two teams in the Eels and Dragons who played outstanding defence.

For the Bulldogs the game reiterated the concerns of many, including myself coming into the season about the first choice halves pairing of Moses Mbye and Josh Reynolds.

Neither player was able to make any great impression behind a forward pack that was well beaten against Parramatta. After demolishing the Sea Eagles in Round 1 but only narrowly edging past Penrith in Round 2 and losing comfortably in Round 3 the form line for the Bulldogs is heading in the wrong direction and questions will persist about the two halves.

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Meanwhile, despite the loss on Sunday afternoon, it could be argued that the Rabbitohs are travelling much better than the Dogs. A loss in the monsoonal conditions at the SCG is entirely forgivable especially as the team was down to 15 men after injuries to Sam Burgess and Damian Cook.

Nevertheless there are some alarming signs for South Sydney with Cody Walker and Luke Keary providing a helpful reminder of just how critical for the team Adam Reynolds is.

Team Sheet

Rabbitohs Position Bulldogs
Greg Inglis Fullback Will Hopoate
Aaron Gray Left Winger Curtis Rona
Bryson Goodwin Left Centre Josh Morris
Hymel Hunt Right Centre Chase Stanley
Alex Johnston Right Winger Sam Perrett
Cody Walker Left half Moses Mbye
Luke Keary Right Half Josh Reynolds
George Burgess Prop Aidan Tolman
Cameron McInnes Hooker Craig Garvey
David Tyrell Prop James Graham
Paul Carter* Left Second Row Tony Williams
Kyle Turner Right Second Row Josh Jackson
Nathan Brown Lock Greg Eastwood
Damian Cook Interchange Sam kasiano
Jason Clark Interchange Tim Browne
Chris Grevsmuhl Interchange David Klemmer
Kirisome Auva’a Interchange Adam Elliott

The first observation is that Paul Carter retains his place after successfully getting a downgrade at the judiciary. Carter has been among the Rabbitohs best forwards thus far and so this is a big win.

The second observation and more important one by order of magnitude is the absence of Sam Burgess from the Rabbitohs team. Thankfully Burgess has been cleared of serious injury after his sickening collision with Will Matthews on Sunday afternoon however in the short term his injury will hurt the team.

As I argued in my Rabbitohs season preview Burgess’s immense value to the team comes not only from his own statis but also because he acts as a force multiplier for his teammates.

With Burgess playing the best part of 80 minutes at an incredibly high level, it allows coach Michael Maguire to use more limited players such as Jason Clark and David Tyrell in shorter, more impactful stints.

With Burgess missing for at least the time being the pressure will be on those players, along with Sam’s brother George to not only cover for Sam’s absence but to do so while playing more minutes.

For the Bulldogs, Greg Eastwood returns who was a late withdrawal from the Friday night game against the Eels.

In Eastwood’s absence coach Des Hasler deployed a jumbo starting line-up utilising Sam Kasiano as the nominal lock in a middle unit featuring Dogzilla with Aidan Tolman and James Graham. Unfortunately the strategy was not effective as the team was unable to exert the sort of middle third dominance one would hope for with such an imposing starting line-up.

Overall the team looks more balanced with Eastwood starting the game with Kasiano and David Klemmer coming off the bench.

The other point of interest in the Bulldogs line-up is the continued presence of hooker Craig Garvey. While usual dummy half Michael Lichaa is far from a household name it has been abundantly clear just how much the Bulldogs relied on his crisp service. It is no good having a massive forward pack if they can’t connect with the dummy half and thus far Garvey has been unable to make that connection.

However the reality for the Dogs is that Garvey is their only genuine option at the position after 2015’s backup Damian Cook was allowed to leave for the Rabbitohs in the offseason.

What to watch for
Regular readers of the Thursday Forecast will know that this section usually contains at least one play diagram to show how teams use set plays to create scoring opportunities. Sadly neither the Bulldogs nor the Rabbitohs provided much in the way of highlight plays to analyse in Round 3.

With only one try each and neither coming from a particularly crisp play we will instead be looking at things that are going wrong for each team, rather than things that are going well, starting with Canterbury.

Two weeks ago when we previewed the Bulldogs v Panthers game we looked in detail at James Graham, the 106kg halfback. At his best Graham is an outstanding passer who adds an extra dimension to the Dogs attack, especially within the opposition twenty.

However, Graham isn’t the only front rower at the Bulldogs who seems to have a licence to pass. Both Aidan Tolman and Sam Kasiano also pass far more often than the average front rower.

While most front rowers will have somewhere in the range of ten to fourteen touches per game and run the ball on all but one or two of those, Graham, Kasiano and Tolman will regularly pass the ball half a dozen times or more. Graham and Tolman also touch the ball far more often than average prop with as many or 25 or 30 touches in a game.

But the question is just how effective is this approach? Certainly front rowers passing the ball, particularly close to the line, can work as a surprise tactic, forcing the defence to respect two or more runners.

However, it can be argued that the Dogs forwards, and Sam Kasiano in particular get too focussed on passing. Kasiano is listed at 195cm and 130kgs which makes him the largest human in the NRL and not surprisingly rather difficult to tackle.

Yet on Friday night against the Eels Kasiano ran the ball only seven times and passed just as many. In doing so he passed up a number of opportunities to run inside the opposition twenty where he had potential mismatches.

In the following freeze frame for example we can see Kasiano taking the ball as the first receiver from a scrum only 15 metres out and just to the right of the posts. With Kenny Edwards and David Gower in front of him and a full set up their sleeves it makes sense for Kasiano to hit the line as hard as possible, sucking in more defenders to create a potential overlap on the next play .

Instead Kasiano chose to pass two wide to Moses Mbye who was sweeping around from the left side. The pass itself could be called wobbly at best and by the time Mbye gathers it in the Eels have had plenty of time to slide across and swallow him up.

It is all well and good for Kasiano to look for the pass but in this instance, and several other times last week Kasiano was simply giving the ball to a player in a worse position than himself or a player not gifted with his colossal size.

When the Bulldogs are pouring down the middle of the field and getting quick play the balls the interplay between their forwards is a useful tactic. Sometimes however, good old fashioned power running can be far more effective and it will be fascinating to see if the Bulldogs revert to the power game more regularly tomorrow afternoon.

Meanwhile, for the Rabbitohs one thing that was abundantly clear on Sunday afternoon against the Dragons was just how much they missed the outstanding kicking game of injured half Adam Reynolds.

In 2015 Reynolds was the second most prolific kicker in the game behind Ben Hunt. With 223 kicks for 6732m in only 18 appearances he made 374m with the boot per game from just over 12 kicks per game. Only Hunt’s colossal 448m per game from nearly 14 kicks per contest exceeded Reynolds.

Of course kicking for distance is only one element in having a strong overall kicking game, the ability to make the right kick close to the opposition line is just as important. Here again Reynolds is a top tier player. Already this season in just 58 minutes on the field Reynolds has recorded two try assists from kicks.

The first was a cross field kick that came down only a metre or two from the line and was spectacularly collected by second rower Paul Carter. The second was a delicate chip over the defence for right winger Alex Johnston, narrowly eluding a desperate leap from Roosters winger Joe Burgess.

Contrast this with the game on Sunday afternoon in which Cody Walker and Luke Keary repeatedly hoisted unthreatening bombs late in the second half as the team searched for a game winner.

Here we can see in graphic detail the difference in precision between Reynolds’ performance in week one and the late game struggles of Keary and Walker.

The key observation is the precision of Reynolds’ kicks. By placing them near the try line he ensures that his attacking player won’t have to do much after the catch or, if the ball goes loose, that it will more often than not spill into the in-goal area creating a second chance opportunity.

Of course neither of Reynolds’ kicks was a bomb and it is a lot easier to place a chip kick or a cross-field kick But all that does is reinforce the question: why are you hoisting bomb after bomb? Why not try something different?

To be fair, in wet conditions there is a certain logic to putting up the high ball challenging the defenders, but Dragons fullback Josh Dugan was largely up to the challenge only spilling one ball early in the game.

Moreover as the chart makes clear the bombs the Rabbitohs did put up were largely coming down a long way from the line making them far less threatening than a kick near the line.

In a game in which the two forward packs should, on recent form at least and notwithstanding the absence of Sam Burgess, be fairly well matched, the quality of each team’s kicking game could well be a critical factor. Walker and Keary will likely need to improve.

First try scorer tip – Moses Mbye

I can see it already: classic Bulldogs sweep play to the left, Tolman and Williams run through as decoys, Mbye gets the ball on Williams’ outside shoulder, throw the big dummy to Josh Morris and cuts back inside before clattering into Greg Inglis but just getting the ball down.

Or something like that.

Prediction – Bulldogs in a close one
This is a really tough game to predict after both teams were so disappointing in Round 3.

For the Bulldogs the big question is to what extent they can relocate their power game and whether or not Mbye and Reynolds can find the right balance as playmakers.

The Rabbitohs overall form line is stronger after two big wins and one loss in forgivable conditions but not having Sam Burgess takes a lot of punch out of their forward pack.

In the end I’m picking the Bulldogs narrowly because of the absence of Burgess. Without him I just don’t think the Rabbitohs have enough go forward to give Keary and Walker any chance.

Shoe in of the Week
We all know it’s coming: endless re-litigation of the James Graham and Adam Reynolds incident from last year.

The Crowd Says:

2016-03-25T04:35:39+00:00

Nate

Guest


One mention of last year's Graham/Reynolds incident already. Your tips are off to a good start.

2016-03-24T23:00:47+00:00

Mike from tari

Guest


One thing you haven't mentioned was Souths defence in that sodden game, the reason the dragons made so much ground up the middle was Souths static defence, you can't move up 1 or 2 meters & wait for the attacking ball runners in the ruck, if they do this against the Doggies it will be game over red rover.

AUTHOR

2016-03-24T21:57:18+00:00

Lachlan Bickley

Roar Guru


Completely agree regarding Carter, he's been one of their best forwards this year. Watching the game live having tipped the Rabbitohs I was so frustrated with Walker and Keary just bombing away late in the game. It was such a contrast with the precision from Reynolds in week one that I had to break it down

AUTHOR

2016-03-24T21:54:56+00:00

Lachlan Bickley

Roar Guru


Completely agree regarding Cook, seems inevitable that he takes the starting job at some point

AUTHOR

2016-03-24T21:47:03+00:00

Lachlan Bickley

Roar Guru


Thanks for reading and commenting every week MAX, I really appreciate it and I'm glad you enjoy it

AUTHOR

2016-03-24T21:46:04+00:00

Lachlan Bickley

Roar Guru


Haha you'll notice I purposely ignored that little snafu. As for Inglis he remains an outstanding player but I wanted to focus on the halves which is a more interesting facet for the Bunnies at the moment

2016-03-24T03:57:25+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


The only change that I would prefer with the Rabbits is that Damian Cook should be in the start up lineup and not Cameron McInnes. Cook has got allot more skills than McInnes and he seems to lift the side whenever he comes on as an interchange (he did that against the Dragons until he was taken off with concussion last week) he's got a better running game, he can kick and he makes allot more plays from dummy half and he is faster than McInnes. This will be a close game but the Rabbits will have to prove what they are made off if they want to win this one, hopefully it won't rain as the Rabbits will get smashed if it does.

2016-03-24T03:05:47+00:00

Kaks

Roar Guru


Great read Lachlan. I can only see the Bulldogs winning this one, but knowing how the world works this will proabably mean that the Rabbits will come away with the points. Also, anyone see the rumour that Keary has been asking for $800k a week?

2016-03-24T00:41:51+00:00

JOHNY BULLDOG

Roar Rookie


Very thorough stuff Lachlan-love your work-go the mighty Doggies!

2016-03-24T00:20:00+00:00

Scott Pryde

Expert


With Burgess out, I have to agree with everything you said there.

2016-03-24T00:19:15+00:00

Scott Pryde

Expert


Love the work you put into these Lachlan, This is a really important game for both of these sides after last week's respective performances, but I can't see the Rabbitohs getting over the line without Sammy B out on the field. It's interesting the points you raise about the Dogs forwards passing the ball cause it always seems to work a treat, bring other members of their pack into the game on the oppositions line and then all of a sudden they are just about uncontainable. I honestly think Graham is the only one who should be passing the ball alot, he just has the talent to do so. Kasiano and the others need to focus on running the ball hard, end of story. I thought Souths attack was really poor last week against St George, and that kicking map you put together shows that no doubt about it. Keary and Walker really need to put more options on the table this time around. I think Paul Carter getting off is also a massive advantage for Souths, particularly now Burgess is out. They are going to be monstered by this Dogs pack and so what they may need to do is make the game as up-tempo as possible, look to spread the ball and tire the Canterbury pack out quickly. Carter will be massive for this. Also, I thought there was going to be an analysis of the Greg Inglis field goal attempt. Actually, I just wanted to see the images and read about it again.

2016-03-23T23:23:18+00:00

MAX

Guest


Hi Lachlan, Always enjoy your forecasts and appreciate the yards you put in to deliver. Like DOW I was all gung-ho for a Canterbury win. Maybe I should temper it a little.

2016-03-23T21:58:43+00:00

The eye

Guest


Scanning for Inglis' name in the article I find it... once..Moses Mbye turnstiles him to score...that's what the great one has been reduced to after last weeks field goal ?

2016-03-23T21:49:10+00:00

Dogs Of War

Roar Guru


The Bulldogs kicking game isn't much better than Souths. The forward pack is though, and I feel that after last weeks loss to the Eels the Dogs will be pumped up for a big one and really go through Souths big time. Dogs by 19. As for Kasiano, when he starts I think the Bulldogs are worse for it. He is much better against tired defenders who struggle then to contain him.

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