Roosters weren't robbed: NRL refs boss

Same ruling that cost Qld a brilliant try in the third origin rout last year when McQueen was ruled offside in collecting a rebound before Thurston scored off some great offloads. Get the whinging coaches off the air.

Right or wrong one decision doesn't matter more than the others including our own players decision. Let's just suck it up

Agreed Renegade...I'm a big fan of MAX but Gaz has got nothin'

Sorry Max.... Had to stop reading when you had in brackets "RL's best commentator" next to Mark Gasnier. I've never heard him say anything worth noting.

You funny man Dean!

This one would be a better fit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTF9yTmTIzs

Virtually impossible to tell whether he was or wasn't - the camera angles just don't allow for it. Lines across the field as suggested in a previous post would aid those in The Bunker further.

True, Kurt Mann was definitely hammered. But it's pretty rare. Not a week goes by where the focus isn't more on the refs. The NRL even tried to implement a ban on talking about refs in the post match conference. Such was the overwhelming focus. Lose, you blame the ref. I like your suggestion. It makes perfect sense. But as I have said, League fans will always find a reason to whinge. Going to the "try" or "no try" scenario brought peace for about a month. Before the howls started again. It would happen, without a shadow of a doubt, in your scenario too. Ultimately we are dealing with humans. And so mistakes will be made. There are no fool proof ways to always get a correct ruling. And at the end of the day that seems to be what League fans want.

Oh Shucks! Will be roaring for Easts at Graham Park next Sunday. Would love to see Nick bring four to our town. Such a beautiful venue and yet so lonely.

eagleJack - I can think of a player that copped it worst than any ref - and it happened just two weeks ago. His name was Kurt Mann. He had a howler, he was lambasted right here on the The Roar, with The Barry (quite hilariously) leading the charge. He was dropped (but it was reported as a minor injury) and looks unlikely to return. If a ref is standing over a try and sees a clear grounding, and all of the officials did not see any error or foul in the lead-up then they should just award a try. If there is suspicion in the movement leading up to the try then they should send the decision to The Bunker and clearly state that an official has seen a clear grounding and act as an aide for them. This is especially important if later there proves to be no clear camera angle. The ref should not have to make a call of "try" or "no try" though when a decision is sent to The Bunker. This is where the crux of the problem lays. If the on-field refs and those in The Bunker have no clear vision to confirm a grounding of the ball then the decision should always favour the defending team with a "no try" call. This process is black and white, and over time it will eliminate the current double standards.

I was hoping for something of substance there Muzz ,

Great attitude EBD and one I'm trying to adopt.

I love you too, MAX Can we make this our song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-FVihIlU2g

eJ - refs very, very rarely get stood down for a week. Media scrutiny does not equal accountability. I agree with you about the focus on refs. As I said I have no problem at all with the ref getting the call wrong, but Archer should be admitting it and seeing if there is possible improvement instead of these ham fisted excuses that he keeps coming up with.

I love ya Muzz. That is the post of the decade. Long live Muzz.

Pinocchio strikes again.

Also on Dean's suggestion, while I agree with it and have heard plenty talk about it (Matty Johns after Rd 1), the trouble is people want the on-field ref to make a decision. That's why we went to "try" or "no try" in the first place. Punters whinged that refs never made a call and sent everything upstairs for them to decide. And the same would happen with reverting back to not having the on field refs make a call. Take a grounding of the ball for example. Ref is on the spot but sends it upstairs. No camera angle shows the grounding. Bunker says no try giving benefit of doubt to defending team. But there is an uproar "The ref was right there he should have made a call". Of course one teams fans are happy. One are not. The NRL and Refs boss need to stand firm. Constantly moving the goalposts to appease a whinging public will only lead to more whinging about something else. You will never make 100% of the people happy 100% of the time.

I thought it was a try but hey it wasn't a clear cut , zero argument try . Sheet happens , maybe the chooks will get one go their way later in the year . Pointless ranting after the game is over . In the Philippines they have an expression ... "Bahala na" which basically means ... It's pointless worrying about things you have no control over , so , Bahala na.

That technology has been tested for years. And from what I understand, it's pretty unreliable. It's all well and good to think that simply having money will fix a problem. But the technology has to be developed first. And then added to footballs with minimal impact on the ball itself. It's a little simple to think that throwing money at something will solve all ills.

Hi TB, If Archer was a Federal politician he would be struggling to retain his set at the upcoming election. Yesterday, Dean- Surry Hills @5:44am under the header 'Archer admits...bunkers first error' presented a solution to the refereeing problem. It was clear and simple. Also,there seems to be too many rules for such a simple game and I would welcome a revision so as to minimise the burden on referees and bunkermen having to deliver their interpretations. Mark Gasnier (RL's best commentator)said yesterday that having spent $2M on the bunker why not spend a little more to have a device which detected offside plays and forward passes. Yes!