Several young Socceroos on the rise

JB, Mooy left St Mirren & struggled to get into a WSW side at the beginning of this club's history, after a few seasons in the HAL, he is in Huddesfield, loaned out by Man City ironically & many pundits are saying he is a Premier League player. This is what I'm saying. Plus every big competition in the world would lose if you moved imports out of the league.

punter - I am not stupid ,I know the standard of the HAL would suffer if we banned "imports" ,but still you seem to be missing the point I am trying to make,that being that after 35 years we still appear to NEED players to move overseas to get "finished". I simply ask "why is this so?" You mention Mooy, You are aware that he has been overseas, at Bolton and St MIrren before,like others before him,returning to play In the HAL with WSW and MC before being signed by MC's parent club in Manchester who immediately moved him on loan down a grade to Huddersfield. Rather strangely that club ,Huddersfield had a super star of the future playing with them back in 1956 when at 15 they signed an "unknown" They must have "polished "him well for at 20 he moved to Man City where he played in the first team before going on to much greater things at firstly Torino and Man Utd. The player----Denis Law. If Huddersfield can do a like job on Aaron I'd be very,very pleased. Your last statement is a bit hard to follow. Are you saying Aaron is the top player in Australia (the country) or do you mean the Australian team?. Personally I like the lad,and if he is "polished" well he could become Australia's greatest ever player (whatever that means) but just now I will follow his career in Huddersfield with great interest and see what transpires next season when at 26 he should be coming to his natural peak. Cheers jb

I don't assume that at all MF... ?

Nonsense High Kicks n Hot Pants. We are excited that we have Ryan at Valencia, Kruse and Leckie in the Bundesliga, many players in the English championship, a handful on the Dutch to flight, others in Scandinavia, Scotland (not really excited)!) and a number of kids coming through at the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley. We also have a lot of talent coming through in the ALeague. At the same age Bresc and Grella were still in Australia

Although Vinnie and his good mate, Bresh, played in the Serie A for many years during this period. These days, we're thrilled if an Australian gets a gig in China.

Very silly comments last one JB. Would the standard of any league in the world lessen, when you remove the imports, the PL, La Liga, Serie A even the JAL or many of the top Asian competitions? Of course it would, you are talking about it as if this is an Australian issue. Think Aaron Mooy, when was he polished & probably in the top 1 player in Australia now.

Nemesis - yes you are correct in your summation that we are still producing athletes that create interest overseas but that is not the point I am trying to make,it is simply that AP,when picking what we have to take as his "strongest" team is still going with players from overseas. What does that say about his opinion (and the opinion of others),about the standard of the HAL at this point in time, is it not producing the finished article or do our younger players have to go to Holland,Denmark,China,Belgium to get that final "rub" that turns the "rough cut" into the "polished stone"?. My point?. Why after 35 years does this still appear to be the way things are.The discussion point about our most promising youth having played in the HAL does not suffer examination as most 16 to 20 year olds of today would only have been playing small sided games on small pitches when the HAL began, so logically, if they were showing promise,they would naturally have played HAL. Another question? Would the standard of the HAL fall if all the imports were removed from the scene making room for local players.Think about that and you may just get to the gist of my original comment. Cheers jb.

Bob In ten years this league is going to seriously good ... not thats its bad now but by the holy mother Football is getting its act together and is now ready for a commercial FTA broadcast partner and if I am honest two years ago we were not.

N Missed your post and posted the same article below ... you beat me to it.

Yer Its starting to build.... Remember a little ways back when FFA spent there funds on national coaching models and types of play and education.... started in Ben Buckley's time he drove the national identification programs and national programs... Gallop kept it up and enhanced it a little... Today we are starting to see the rewards and in 10 years time it will be much bigger again. Sometimes Buckley due to his poor communication ability is over looked at what he did at park and association level

k very true

I often wonder if our younger players are getting better. The thing that gives me hope is that our a-League Teams are more than a match for the Asian club teams in the Asian champions league. I remember the Japanese teams in particular giving our teams hidings at the early stages of the a-leagues life. These days, what may get them over the line are there big money overseas players from brazil etc. This is an indicator that the a-league has really strengthened in standard. It also means if our young players can do well in the a-league, they have a future overseas. when we start producing young players that dominate the a-league - these are the guys who will be the next vidukas and kewells. Only a matter of time given the youth participation levels in our great game.

It is always a fraught affair comparing eras, Fuss. The coach, the opposition and the administration are significant factors in performance that all lie outside of the narrow bounds of technical capacity. What is pleasing is that we appear to have far more depth than before which suggests an expansion in player development capacity, an improved ability to monitor and identify talent or a combination thereof.

Article on SBS and Vinney Grella says this current midfield is better the than his.... http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/mariners-onfield-woes-not-representative-of-strong-growth-off-the-pitch/news-story/07d9d8a373244d4de43dfef7af622330

Agree Fuss

If anyone wants to compare today's group representing Australia at senior level with the Golden Generation, just watch some of the Asian Cup 2007, and the qualifiers for World Cup 2010 and 2014. What you'll see with the Golden Generation are individual players who were technically very good, but physically and tactically struggled to cope with Asian opposition particularly on away trips. I don't recall Australia dominating the opposition in Asia when we played away like Ange's team dominated UAE the other night. What I do recall is Mark Schwarzer saving Australia time and again as our midfield and defence were torn to shreds by quicker and better tactically organised opponents.

In terms of our talent to watch keep an eye on out on the joeys u16s in the AFC u16 championships starting next week in India, they need to go out of their group first and if they can do that then they have to win their quarterfinal match to grant themselves a ticket to the world cup next year. http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/joeys-squad-named-for-afc-u-16-championship/1qybq9maydu1a1gzusxe47noge I suggest you guys to watch it there is some exciting young talent in that group, a lot of these guys would have spent majority of their development through the national curriculum too. There are links of their games on youtube as well if anyone is interested.

Given some of the insights I've just read, it's so funny to read Vinnie Grella say this today. Should silence a few of the vocal critics whose daily job is to provide negative input on every football issue. "Grella believes Ange's midfield stronger than golden generation" http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/09/grella-believes-anges-midfield-stronger-golden-generation

He writes with fear!!!!

The number of juniors being sent towards the National teams by WSW is scary - over double the rest of the League combined according to Twitter this afternoon.